House Passes Mandatory National Service Bill

[Easy Skanking]

Quote:House Passes Mandatory National Service Bill
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, March 19, 2009


The House passed a bill yesterday which includes disturbing language indicating young people will be forced to undertake mandatory national service programs as fears about President Barack Obama’s promised “civilian national security force” intensify.

The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act, was passed yesterday by a 321-105 margin and now goes to the Senate.

Under section 6104 of the bill, entitled “Duties,” in subsection B6, the legislation states that a commission will be set up to investigate, “Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.”

Section 120 of the bill also discusses the “Youth Engagement Zone Program” and states that “service learning” will be “a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.”

“The legislation, slated to cost $6 billion over five years, would create 175,000 “new service opportunities” under AmeriCorps, bringing the number of participants in the national volunteer program to 250,000. It would also create additional “corps” to expand the reach of volunteerism into new sectors, including a Clean Energy Corps, Education Corps, Healthy Futures Corps and Veterans Service Corps, and it expands the National Civilian Community Corps to focus on additional areas like disaster relief and energy conservation,” reports Fox News.

The Senate is also considering a similar piece of legislation known as the “Serve America Act,” which also includes language about “Youth Engagement Zones”.

Fears about Obama’s plans to create involuntary servitude were first stoked in July 2008, when Obama told a rally in Colorado Springs, “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”

Despite denials that Obama plans to institute a mandatory program of national service, his original change.gov website stated that Americans would be “required” to complete “50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year”. The text was only later changed to state that Americans would be “encouraged” to undertake such programs.

In addition, Obama’s Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, publicly stated his intention to help create “universal civil defense training” in 2006.

“The bill’s opponents — and there are only a few in Congress — say it could cram ideology down the throats of young “volunteers,” many of whom could be forced into service since the bill creates a “Congressional Commission on Civic Service,” reports Fox.

“We contribute our time and money under no government coercion on a scale the rest of the world doesn’t emulate and probably can’t imagine,” said Luke Sheahan, contributing editor for the Family Security Foundation. “The idea that government should order its people to perform acts of charity is contrary to the idea of charity and it removes the responsibility for charity from the people to the government, destroying private initiative.”

Lee Cary of the conservative American Thinker warns that Obama’s agenda is to, “tap into the already active volunteerism of millions of Americans and recruit them to become cogs in a gigantic government machine grinding out his social re-engineering agenda.”

CFR luminary Gary Hart hit back at critics, claiming in a Huffington Post piece that, “Resistance to expanded public service programs can be expected from the ideologically sclerotic, those who occupy the negative ground between government as the problem and government as our enemy.”

Here come the brownshirts.... :hitler:

[rsol]

fucking right. that will NEVER pass.

Quote:those who occupy the negative ground between government as the problem and government as our enemy

THATS ME! hurry up and start being a solution and a friend and I can go back to where i came from.

[blove8.]

I'm not able to find section 6104 of the bill to read for myself. It seems it ends at SEC. 5102. SERVICE ASSIGNMENTS AND AGREEMENTS. Anyone else have any luck with this?

[Guest]

Of all the hype I've seen over the Obama_Jugend bill, I've yet to see
one single penalty specified for those who tell Obama to go fuck himself.

Usually bills are laws... laws with penalties. Does anyone know yet what the
penalty is for the avoidance of State slavery?

[Easy Skanking]

Here it is, from the version that was introduced to The House : http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c111...p/~c111LtBRlE::

Quote:SEC. 6104. DUTIES.

(a) General Purpose- The purpose of the Commission is to gather and analyze information in order to make recommendations to Congress to--

(1) improve the ability of individuals in the United States to serve others and, by doing so, to enhance our Nation and the global community;

(2) train leaders in public service organizations to better utilize individuals committed to national service and volunteerism as they manage human and fiscal resources;

(3) identify and offer solutions to the barriers that make it difficult for some individuals in the United States to volunteer or perform national service; and

(4) build on the foundation of service and volunteer opportunities that are currently available.

(B)Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:

(1) The level of understanding about the current Federal, State, and local volunteer programs and opportunities for service among individuals in the United States.

(2) The issues that deter volunteerism and national service, particularly among young people, and how the identified issues can be overcome.

(3) Whether there is an appropriate role for Federal, State, and local governments in overcoming the issues that deter volunteerism and national service and, if appropriate, how to expand the relationships and partnerships between different levels of government in promoting volunteerism and national service.

(4) Whether existing databases are effective in matching community needs to would-be volunteers and service providers.

(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.

(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

(7) The need for a public service academy, a 4-year institution that offers a federally funded undergraduate education with a focus on training future public sector leaders.

(8) The means to develop awareness of national service and volunteer opportunities at a young age by creating, expanding, and promoting service options for elementary and secondary school students, through service learning or other means, and by raising awareness of existing incentives.

(9) The effectiveness of establishing a training program on college campuses to recruit and educate college students for national service.

(10) The effect on United States diplomacy and foreign policy interests of expanding service opportunities abroad, such as the Peace Corps, and the degree of need and capacity abroad for an expansion.

(11) The constraints that service providers, nonprofit organizations, and State and local agencies face in utilizing federally funded volunteer programs, and how these constraints can be overcome.

(12) Whether current Federal volunteer programs are suited to address the special skills and needs of senior volunteers, and if not, how these programs can be improved such that the Federal Government can effectively promote service among the `baby boomer' generation.
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Source

Then this:

Quote:SEC. 120. INNOVATIVE DEMONSTRATION SERVICE-LEARNING PROGRAMS AND RESEARCH.

...
`(2) YOUTH ENGAGEMENT ZONE- The term `youth engagement zone' means the area in which a youth engagement zone program is carried out.

`(3) YOUTH ENGAGEMENT ZONE PROGRAM- The term `youth engagement zone program' means a service learning program in which members of an eligible partnership described in paragraph (4) collaborate to provide coordinated school-based or community-based service learning opportunities, to address a specific community challenge, for an increasing percentage of out-of-school youth and secondary school students served by local educational agencies where--

`(A) not less than 90 percent of the students participate in service-learning activities as part of the program; or

`(B)service-learning is a mandatory part of the curriculum in all of the secondary schools served by the local educational agency.

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Source

[Guest]

That means gibberish... where's the part that says the typical " Any person who willingly, knowingly or through omission fails to "blah blah blah:" is subject to a "term of imprisonment not exceeding x-years", a "fine of blah blah blah" or "both".

Laws mean shit without a penalty.

[blove8.]

Thanks ES, but those links are only temporary and so they are now broken. Any way to provide a stable link?

[Easy Skanking]

Quote:Thanks ES, but those links are only temporary and so they are now broken. Any way to provide a stable link?

That's weak...
Try this for the full text of the bill: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:h1388:
There are three versions up there.

[blove8.]

Quote:

Quote:Thanks ES, but those links are only temporary and so they are now broken. Any way to provide a stable link?

That's weak...
Try this for the full text of the bill: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:h1388:
There are three versions up there.

Yeah, I saw the three versions but I thought it'd be best to read the one that passed... ' 3 . GIVE Act (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.1388.EH]', now that I look, that one doesn't seem to have section 6104, yet, the other two do have that section... 1 . GIVE Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.1388.IH], 2 . GIVE Act (Reported in House)[H.R.1388.RH]

Doesn't this mean that this 'mandatory service' clause was taken out of the bill that was passed?

[blove8.]

It seems I was right about the first bill that was passed in the Senate... It had nothing about mandatory service included in the final version of it. Apparently this upcoming one does...

Quote:Mandatory Service Bill Lives On
Infowars
March 29, 2009
http://www.infowars.com/mandatory-servic...-lives-on/

It seemed like a victory, of sorts. Last week the Senate approved a bill to radically expand the AmeriCorps program. The bill initially contained language that proposed a study for mandatory service for all young people in the United States, but this language was removed as the bill moved through the Senate and did not appear in the final version.

Well, it’s baaaaaaack. The language was stripped from one bill, but it suddenly appeared in another. It is now contained in HR 1444, due to crawl across the House floor this week. HR 1444 is sponsored by Rep. Jim McDermott, a Washington state Democrat, and is assigned to the House Committee on Labor and Education.

The bill, under Section 4 ( b )6, states:

Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

How “mandatory service,” i.e. servitude, strengthens the “social fabric of the Nation” is not explained. (continues...)

[Shinobi]

I just been reading up some more on this aswell over here ~ http://www.scribd.com/doc/13448280/HR-1388...-for-Obama-Mama Make sure you have javascript enabled as you wont see the document otherwise.