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***TriWooOx*** · 02-23-2011, 08:10 PM

***Dunamis*** · 02-24-2011, 02:51 AM

Arrested for Burglary when it clearly wasn't (unless your five and don't understand the legal term)? Why people don't take police to court more often for wrongful arrest I don't know. My mother did years back for someone playing loud music after being asked to turn it off outside a Cathedral down South, it wasn't her, even though she was arrested. Even got compensation in the end, as well as a formal apology from the officers.

Swordfish · 02-24-2011, 09:01 PM

More tramps

***TriWooOx*** · 02-24-2011, 09:11 PM

(02-24-2011 09:01 PM)Swordfish Wrote: More tramps

What do you mean by that?? I know Danny and he is no tramp..

How is camping on some land make them tramps? and I also think he handled that very well especially with all the verbal abuse he got

pax681 · 02-25-2011, 02:06 AM

(02-24-2011 09:11 PM)TriWooOx Wrote: and I also think he handled that very well especially with all the verbal abuse he got

yups, hats off to the guy.
as much as i try i don't think i would have been as calm as that with the uber douche trying to shout the odds and breaking my kit.
luckily in Scotland the law differs as far as private property goes..... there isn't any...LOL
save for mlitary/govt secure sites there is a right to roam here that takes an applicatio to the local council to have lifted, and even then it's only a short term thig for the likes of festivals like T in the Park when after soe clever chappy informed the security guys that they were infringing on h9os right to roam, there was no application t the council at any T in the park till AFTER that one.in the end word got about and thousands turned up and got in for free.
was well funny.
the other bonus abut Scottish Law is that due to our rights to roam it prevented madonna from buying a place in the the hoghlands.
apparently she was "dismayed and disgusted2 that she could pay millions for a country hole(a stately home ) and thousands of acres and not have it all to herself.

however, back to yer man Danny, he kept a cool head under pressure and said and done the right things. damn shame about the bullshit charge though.
hope it got dropped

***Dunamis*** · 02-25-2011, 02:38 AM

(02-24-2011 09:01 PM)Swordfish Wrote: More tramps

I'd define a tramp as someone who craps in a place that is owned, but not by them, and they do so without permission. It's a bit like you here Dodgy

I'm sorry, I had to. There was no need to be insulting towards the guy in the video, especially with a drive by comment (which seems your style already).

Swordfish · 02-25-2011, 11:57 AM

Dont people have a sense of humour on this site any more?

Quote:I also think he handled that very well especially with all the verbal abuse he got

Seriously: It seems clear that he had deliberately placed himself in that position to precipitate a response, and which he got. Why was he so surprised?

Why camp in a place like that? Isnt there any countryside where he lives?
Ive camped all over and all thats needed is to ask a farmer if its ok and most are very accomodating. To go around with a philosophy that "all property is theft" is not living in the real world.
If someone comes into my garden or other property i am going to be pissed off with them, why wouldnt I?
Do you allow people to roam around your house?

Why did he take a camera - was his intention before getting there to film "an incident"? As this appears to be another one in a series (with own youtube channel) this seems a reasonable conclusion.

This seems like another example of the poundstretcher incident, causing trouble in order to film it, then claiming no responsibility.
Yes I disagree with your assessment of the value of such actions but thats life.

Quote:I'd define a tramp as someone who craps in a place that is owned, but not by them, and they do so without permission. It's a bit like you here

Good point dunamis, as they didnt have a toilet guess you are agreeing the tramp thing?

Also pot calling kettle black again. Its ok to insult me but not vice versa? (water off a ducks back though)
Its ok to sit on someones land yet conversely ok to apparently exert property rights over the forum.
Seems to me the value system is a bit skewed here.

***Dunamis*** · 02-25-2011, 01:51 PM

(02-25-2011 11:57 AM)Swordfish Wrote:
Quote:I'd define a tramp as someone who craps in a place that is owned, but not by them, and they do so without permission. It's a bit like you here
Good point dunamis, as they didnt have a toilet guess you are agreeing the tramp thing?

No, in fact I wasn't defining tramp, I was asking you your definition, making a presumption on your definition, and concluding if that was a definition you'd use, you'd be in the same boat.

(02-25-2011 11:57 AM)Swordfish Wrote: Also pot calling kettle black again. Its ok to insult me but not vice versa? (water off a ducks back though)
Its ok to sit on someones land yet conversely ok to apparently exert property rights over the forum.
Seems to me the value system is a bit skewed here.

I thought you'd say exactly that, but I didn't want to presume, so instead I waited, to say this:

Are you saying calling someone a tramp is an insult? Then why did you join this thread to just insult an acquaintance of TriWooOx...

Swordfish Wrote:More tramps

...that was it, your whole post, all you gave. And yet you claim:

Swordfish Wrote:If you look back you will see that I go to lengths to expand on and explain my views, and which may differ from some other people." Pity that's changed then.

Swordfish · 02-25-2011, 06:16 PM

Quote:I'd define a tramp as someone who craps in a place that is owned, but not by them, and they do so without permission.

Quote:No, in fact I wasn't defining tramp, I was asking you your definition

My head is spinning. Is this doublespeak or what?

Quote:..that was it, your whole post, all you gave. And yet you claim:

Swordfish Wrote:If you look back you will see that I go to lengths to expand on and explain my views,

and when you asked me to justify this I have and still am doing.
And once again no one has chosen to answer why this guy was with camera on someone elses land provoking an incident (so he could put it up on his youtube channel), instead just homing in on selected bits of my posts in order to promote the idea I am "trolling" rather than debating an interesting topic.

Chill out.
If the worst thing happening in life is me saying in jest that someone has the stereotypical appearance and habitat of a tramp, then we really dont have much to worry about in the world do we.

It seems that the forums are just for sycophantic comments rather than any debate on topics.
Apparently I have also now been warned for daring to have a sense of humour and add a little life to the sterility of the forum. Shame

***Dunamis*** · 02-25-2011, 11:35 PM

(02-25-2011 06:16 PM)Swordfish Wrote:
Quote:I'd define a tramp as someone who craps in a place that is owned, but not by them, and they do so without permission.

Quote:No, in fact I wasn't defining tramp, I was asking you your definition

My head is spinning. Is this doublespeak or what?

Quote:..that was it, your whole post, all you gave. And yet you claim:

Swordfish Wrote:If you look back you will see that I go to lengths to expand on and explain my views,
and when you asked me to justify this I have and still am doing.
And once again no one has chosen to answer why this guy was with camera on someone elses land provoking an incident (so he could put it up on his youtube channel), instead just homing in on selected bits of my posts in order to promote the idea I am "trolling" rather than debating an interesting topic.

Chill out.
If the worst thing happening in life is me saying in jest that someone has the stereotypical appearance and habitat of a tramp, then we really don't have much to worry about in the world do we.

It seems that the forums are just for sycophantic comments rather than any debate on topics.
Apparently I have also now been warned for daring to have a sense of humour and add a little life to the sterility of the forum. Shame

You are right man, I was defining a tramp, sorry about that. I plead tiredness, but it's still not an excuse, just a reason.

As far as the type of comments you see the forum are full of, would you not say that your one liner in this case was far from helpful or constructive?

It's fair enough offering criticism, but you can hardly call "more tramps" critical thought being communicated. It's the sort throw away insult that you hear the sheep coming out with every day, "ah, bloody tramps", "bloody paki's" and the like.

Swordfish · 02-26-2011, 10:29 AM

Quote:would you not say that your one liner in this case was far from helpful or constructive?

Fair comment, was meant in humour but yes hands up. And appreciate taking off the warning.
Have learnt a useful lesson today about how I may come across so thanks for that.
Todays a new day.

***Dunamis*** · 02-27-2011, 12:51 AM

(02-26-2011 10:29 AM)Swordfish Wrote:
Quote:would you not say that your one liner in this case was far from helpful or constructive?
Fair comment, was meant in humour but yes hands up. And appreciate taking off the warning.
Have learnt a useful lesson today about how I may come across so thanks for that.
Todays a new day.

Welcome to the forum minority. Not many are so willing to admit when they have been wrong or made an error in judgement. I was a little hasty with the warning, after seeing you were once banned and the few posts on the new account, I thought you weren't looking to be constructive. Clearly I had an error in judgement also, but in this situation, I don't mind being wrong.

Swordfish · 03-02-2011, 08:04 PM

Ok not trying to cause offence but would genuinely like to know why this guy was with camera camping on someone elses land (and its not an attractive or scenic place) apparently provoking an incident.
Could the poster perhaps give us a perspective as to why anyone would do this (and similar incidents) unless they were actively seeking confrontation to film?
I just dont "get it"