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~~---~~ · (This post was last modified: 04-13-2009 04:54 PM by ---.)

Thanks SiLVa

I wish he could have just posted the footage of the trains and not go into his own theories about it... it makes it so much harder to use in a debate with people that think it's all a crock *shrugs*

~~---~~ · 04-13-2009, 04:55 PM

Quote:And suprise suprise.. there was :suspicious:

Then the guy who filmed this claims that "this is proof that she wasn't lying", which it is, it is proof that there are some trains where she said there was.. so what? Does this mean she's not making up the rest of it? Of course not! I never doubted that the address she gave for the department of health or whatever would be correct and that would be some trains where she said there was, what I fail to see is how anyone can make the leap to thinking that this proves the other whacky shit she was saying was correct.

If I make up a story about me kidnapped by aliens along side a railroad and describe the railroad in detail, then someone goes and checks and sees that my description was correct then this doesn't prove that my entire story was correct.. I'm just having trouble understanding the logic (or lack thereof) of people who would see it that way.

I can see a lot of problems with that video, but can someone please explain to me what is so extraordinary about this train and what it proves exactly? Thanks.

PS: I have seen many trains that are much bigger than that

You've seen the footage of huge trains kitted out with benches and manacles right?

***SiLVa*** · 04-13-2009, 05:02 PM

NSM,
You're trying real hard to debunk a claim that you dont believe in...I find that :suspicious:

The point of posting the video wasnt to prove everything she said was true,maybe that was his intent, but not mine. Im just pointing out what truth has been found in the whole story she was describing.
If you can find any conflicting information worthy of really debunking this, than just post it already. I dont want to believe this is real, I welcome a thorough debunking.
But your opinions on what you think is bullshit are simply irrelevant. Not to mention annoyingly repeated ad nauseam.

***SiLVa*** · 04-13-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:Thanks SiLVa

I wish he could have just posted the footage of the trains and not go into his own theories about it... it makes it so much harder to use in a debate with people that think it's all a crock *shrugs*

I totally agree. He should have just stuck with that and saved the rest of his theories for another vid...but the train footage is some pretty good stuff.

~~nietzscheansuperman~~ · (This post was last modified: 04-13-2009 05:39 PM by nietzscheansuperman.)

Quote:NSM,
You're trying real hard to debunk a claim that you dont believe in...I find that :suspicious:

LOL, you're one of those people who get suspicious of sane people and believe that they are agents trying to stop you from realising their plans right? I find that:fool::wacko:

You find people debunking things that they don't believe in suspicious? try visiting this forum http://www.randi.org/site/ (and perhaps a medical professional who specialises in disorders such as paranoia & delusional thinking)

"your opinions on what you think is bullshit are simply irrelevant"

So my opinion is irrelevant is it? And yours is what.. Perfectly valid I suppose?:sick006:

You've seen the footage of huge trains kitted out with benches and manacles right?

Are you implying that there are manacles and sinister looking benches in that vid? maybe I missed something, can you please give me a reference to what time this appears in the vid? Thanks.

If you can find any conflicting information worthy of really debunking this, than just post it already

The burden of proof lies with those making the claim, everyone knows that (well almost).

~~---~~ · 04-13-2009, 05:45 PM

Quote:You've seen the footage of huge trains kitted out with benches and manacles right?

Are you implying that there are manacles and sinister looking benches in that vid? maybe I missed something, can you please give me a reference to what time this appears in the vid? Thanks.

nope. not that video.

~~nietzscheansuperman~~ · 04-13-2009, 05:47 PM

Well then.. lets have it...

***SiLVa*** · 04-13-2009, 05:50 PM

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Quote:NSM,
You're trying real hard to debunk a claim that you dont believe in...I find that :suspicious:
LOL, you're one of those people who get suspicious of sane people and believe that they are agents trying to stop you from realising their plans right? I find that:fool::wacko:

You find people debunking things that they don't believe in suspicious? try visiting this forum http://www.randi.org/site/

Well perhaps I should have checked my wording...because you havent tried to debunk a damn thing. You just keep spouting off about nuts and crazies and how unbelievably sane you are compared to everyone else...especially everyone here.
I probably should have used the word 'discredit' instead of debunk. My bad.
I just dont see the point really. You dont need to approve of every vid that gets posted here. But if you had more than just an opinion to offer on them, and less criticism of the overall theories or people presenting the info, it would be much more appreciated, Im sure.

Quote:"your opinions on what you think is bullshit are simply irrelevant"

So my opinion is irrelevant is it? And yours is what.. Perfectly valid I suppose?:sick006:

Your opinion is worthless imo...I do want to see factual debunking from someone that is so vocally against such information simply being presented for investigation.
Its one thing to know something is wrong and post a correction or rebuttal, but its totally a different thing, you sitting up on a high horse calling names and providing no real evidence or even supposed evidence to the contrary.

What about my opinion...I didnt post one(regarding the video), so I cant follow you on that one.

psilocybin · 04-13-2009, 05:56 PM

NSM, I agree with your skepticism, but your attitude is shit. Just say you don't trust the video, and don't be a tool.

You used to not be such a whiny bitch on this forum, but lately all your posts have been severely negative and wholly unproductive.

~~nietzscheansuperman~~ · (This post was last modified: 04-13-2009 06:07 PM by nietzscheansuperman.)

You want to see "factual debunking"? You still don't get it do you.. This womans claims are not worth shit until she or someone else comes up with substantial evidence to prove her claims, it's not up to me to prove a thing, nevermind, I think your one of those people who will just never understand this concept, how sad.

How do you expect someone to facually debunk this fiction anyway? Should I start by looking for everyone named "mary" in that part of the world and trying to track her down? Trying to prove that some spanish guy didn't get paid by some department of homeland security dudes wearing gloves in a public toilet? Don't be ridiculous, it's up to them to provide the evidence that it happened! :rolleyes:

~~---~~ · 04-13-2009, 06:12 PM

Quote:Well then.. lets have it...

Same as with Andrew Jackson... I'm not trying to prove it to you - or do your legwork *shrugs* It was a fair while back and I haven't got it bookmarked (I looked:rolleyes:) I'm sure with your searing intellect you should be able to source it yourself;)

~~nietzscheansuperman~~ · 04-13-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:NSM, I agree with your skepticism, but your attitude is shit. Just say you don't trust the video, and don't be a tool.

You used to not be such a whiny bitch on this forum, but lately all your posts have been severely negative and wholly unproductive.

My posts are not unproductive IMO, very much the opposite actually. Just saying that I don't trust the video would be unproductive, trying to make people understand why I question it is far more important.

And for the record I have always been what you might discribe as a whiny bitch, think back.. remember... Leo Salami, etc.. I'm proud to be viewed by the gullible fools among us as a "whiny bitch".

~~nietzscheansuperman~~ · (This post was last modified: 04-13-2009 06:17 PM by nietzscheansuperman.)

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Quote:Well then.. lets have it...

Same as with Andrew Jackson... I'm not trying to prove it to you - or do your legwork *shrugs* It was a fair while back and I haven't got it bookmarked (I looked:rolleyes:) I'm sure with your searing intellect you should be able to source it yourself;)

So you once saw proof on the net that andrew jackson wrote that in his will? If it exists then I'll hunt it down, it will come in handy over at james randi forums, (just signed up BTW, username is 'Descartes';))

~~---~~ · 04-13-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:You want to see "factual debunking"? You still don't get it do you.. This womans claims are not worth shit until she or someone else comes up with substantial evidence to prove her claims, it's not up to me to prove a thing, nevermind, I think your one of those people who will just never understand this concept, how sad.

How do you expect someone to facually debunk this fiction anyway? Should I start by looking for everyone named "mary" in that part of the world and trying to track her down? Trying to prove that some spanish guy didn't get paid by some department of homeland security dudes wearing gloves in a public toilet? Don't be ridiculous, it's up to them to provide the evidence that it happened! :rolleyes:

Did anyone hear start flapping around screaming ''Oh my Ghod!!! This IS it!!!" - no, I didn't think so.

Are we not even allowed now to post up videos and articles because you feel it your duty to immediately descend on them and call everyone a wingnut?

Take Psilo's advice onboard.

~~---~~ · (This post was last modified: 04-13-2009 06:18 PM by ---.)

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Quote:NSM, I agree with your skepticism, but your attitude is shit. Just say you don't trust the video, and don't be a tool.

You used to not be such a whiny bitch on this forum, but lately all your posts have been severely negative and wholly unproductive.

My posts are not unproductive IMO, very much the opposite actually. Just saying that I don't trust the video would be unproductive, trying to make people understand why I question it is far more important.

And for the record I have always been what you might discribe as a whiny bitch, think back.. remember... Leo Salami, etc.. I'm proud to be viewed by the gullible fools among us as a "whiny bitch".

Maybe go and read Ctrl's comment about that once more:rolleyes: