100% Conclusive Proof of No-Planes & TV-Fakery on 9/11 in under 8 minutes

[JFK]

(09-26-2011 08:19 AM)Negentropic Wrote:  Ace Baker

The one who pretended to commit suicide while on a radio show !!!

Yep, Real credible.

"Psy-Opera" seems appropriate ( for him ).

[Negentropic]

(09-26-2011 05:25 PM)JFK Wrote:  

(09-26-2011 08:19 AM)Negentropic Wrote:  Ace Baker

The one who pretended to commit suicide while on a radio show !!!

Yep, Real credible.

"Psy-Opera" seems appropriate ( for him ).

Yup, that's the dude. Thanks for the plug ! Anytime a plane-hugging, Steven-Jones-groupie, nano-thermite-drinker questions the credibility of someone else while having zero credibility of their own, as in not even a single plane part at any of the four 9/11 crash sites matched to anything in 10 years, not a single non-doctored video, and NOT EVEN THE ORIGINAL SERIAL NUMBERS OF THE BLACK BOXES (exposed naked by Cimino in the link above) on file, something that's never gone missing on any plane flights before or since, never mind only 249 confirmed dead and vicsims to boot, whenever this bat-blind cognitive-dissonance makes another appearance, the laughter rings so loud in the valleys of absurdity that anyone and everyone with two rational brain cells left to rub together runs like the wind in the opposite direction.


Yes, KFC, that's the guy ! The same guy who got more than a million views on just one you tube video:






while you're here pontificating left and right with barely a hundred views on a good day


The sue-i- cide solution was staged on purpose to catch the reaction of James Fetzer to put in the movie afterwards. It was a nasty stunt to pull but the dude was pissed off at Fetzer and everybody else in the troof movement at the time.


the Dynamic Duo with Jim Fetzer / Ace Baker faked suicide audio:

http://www.checktheevidence.com/audio/91...202009.mp3





"The truth, as the light, makes blind.” --- Albert Camus



Dr. Judy Wood with John Lash and Thomas Malone - September 6, 2011 - Part 1

http://www.checktheevidence.com/audio/91...2011-1.mp3


Dr. Judy Wood with John Lash and Thomas Malone - September 6, 2011 - Part 2

http://www.checktheevidence.com/audio/91...2011-2.mp3

[JazzRoc]

(09-25-2011 09:21 AM)Bull Medicine Wrote:  Oh yes, it's entirely unreasonable - No answer.

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Quote:The amassed visual evidence doesn't correlate with itself

Everything I've seen does. Especially airplane photos and vids. What happened to the "pod" idea?

Quote:fanboying - unanswerable abuse - REALLY.

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Quote:The best thing to suggest when there is no quarry - I have posted things you have patently ignored

I ignore astroturf, I must admit. Also when anyone already ignores my input I feel a lesser need to respond to it.
The plain fact is that I have in the last three years seen nothing new to me.

Quote:charleton

Charlatan.

Quote:I think possibly I could arrange a recorded call with DR. Judy Wood

Not a good idea. Speech on its own is a poor medium for a discussion about visual interpretation.

Quote:your scope wouldn't be so limited

Yes it's limited.

To the POSSIBLE.

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(09-25-2011 09:00 PM)Negentropic Wrote:  Dennis Cimino - ASTROTURF nothing to do with 100% Conclusive Proof blah - .info/

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(09-26-2011 09:10 PM)Negentropic Wrote:  Yup, that's the - more of the same - %202011-2.mp3

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The vid I saw a LONG time ago.
When TWO separate people who don't know each other stand next to each other, one with a camera and the other with a videocamera, and quite separately produce material evidence in photos and videos which exactly match each other I consider that in itself to prove "planes".
But when ALL details in dozens of videos and hundreds of photos do the same, recording the same blue sky, the exact wind direction, the exact trajectories of the fragmented planes, exact details of exotic aerodynamics, big holes in the towers which could only have been made by LARGE OBJECTS ENTERING THEM, that is TRUE OVERKILL.

[Bull Medicine]

(09-27-2011 12:37 AM)JazzRoc Wrote:  I ignore astroturf, I must admit. Also when anyone already ignores my input I feel a lesser need to respond to it.
The plain fact is that I have in the last three years seen nothing new to me.

Ah, let me help you with that plank..here's a starter for ten: LIHOP or MIHOP?

http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?t...#pid228424

[JazzRoc]

(09-27-2011 01:00 AM)Bull Medicine Wrote:  Ah, let me help you with that plank..here's a starter for ten: LIHOP or MIHOP?

I've always thought it a LIHOP, with "our side" caught on the hop. Bin Laden had had a go at the towers before, in 1995, hadn't he?
I wouldn't be surprised if B L had access to US intelligence by his own efforts, and just ran them their own scenario for real.

Quote:http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?t...#pid228424

LOL. OK - almost nothing new.

I was arguing that such a picture was possible, and was correct in that. I just placed myself, rather hastily, at the wrong end of the sightline, that's all.

[Bull Medicine]

read the article, please..

You have heard of the infamous "vicsims" list, I am sure - but I have the impression that you find it perhaps too distasteful to have looked at that specific research properly.

Perhaps, you have indeed read into it and declared the findings meaningless - if so, please restate that you did and came to that conclusion, here.

nb) it's obvious that no plane crashed at Shanksville, jr. They shot it out of the sky.

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(09-27-2011 01:15 AM)JazzRoc Wrote:  Bin Laden had had a go at the towers before, in 1995, hadn't he?
I wouldn't be surprised if B L had access to US intelligence by his own efforts, and just ran them their own scenario for real.

There was no alphabet agency complicity in the 1995(?) bombing?

alternatively, OBL was fed information as desired in the function of [potentially]unwitting CIA asset .

[Easy Skanking]

(09-27-2011 01:15 AM)JazzRoc Wrote:  ... Bin Laden had had a go at the towers before, in 1995, hadn't he?
I wouldn't be surprised if B L had access to US intelligence by his own efforts, and just ran them their own scenario for real. ...

Incorrect.

The first WTC bombing was in 1993. Ramzi Yousef was arrested in Islamabad in 1995 to stand trial for the bombing. According to the FBI, Bin Laden was wanted for NEITHER the 1993 bombing nor the 2001 false flag on the WTC.

Of course Bin Laden had intel. He was working as a CIA asset, code named "Tim Osmond".

One of the other 1995 major events was the false flag attack on the Oklahoma City Federal Building.

[JazzRoc]

(09-27-2011 01:25 AM)Bull Medicine Wrote:  read the article, please..

Sorry, which?

Quote:You have heard of the infamous "vicsims" list, I am sure - but I have the impression that you find it perhaps too distasteful to have looked at that specific research properly. Perhaps, you have indeed read into it and declared the findings meaningless - if so, please restate that you did and came to that conclusion, here.

You are correct that I dipped in, and found no credible material, in light of the unfolding story. There is more than enough evidence for the general story.
You are also correct in that I find this, and even the main story, disgusting.
When you find yourself approaching oblivion, as you will one day, it will amaze you to discover how little evidence you leave of your existence, and how what little you leave gets confabulated.

Quote:it's obvious that no plane crashed at Shanksville, jr. They shot it out of the sky.

Pardon? How is it possible they shot it out of the sky, yet NO PLANE crashed? Did they use Judy Wood's "dustification" beam on it?

Quote:There was no alphabet agency complicity in the 1995 bombing? Alternatively, OBL was fed information as desired in the function of [potentially] unwitting CIA asset.

It isn't possible to tell from outside.

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(09-27-2011 02:17 AM)Easy Skanking Wrote:  Bin Laden had had a go at the towers before, in 1995, hadn't he? - Incorrect

Only insofar as the date. The point I was making was that HE was up for it.

Quote:According to the FBI, Bin Laden was wanted for NEITHER the 1993 bombing nor the 2001 false flag on the WTC.

You contradict other truthers here.

Quote:Of course Bin Laden had intel. He was working as a CIA asset, code named "Tim Osmond".

What I'm suggesting is that he took more information than he was given, then, and later.

Quote:One of the other 1995 major events was the false flag attack on the Oklahoma City Federal Building.

Another conspiratorial ruse to inveigle via vomit?

[JFK]

(09-27-2011 08:52 AM)JazzRoc Wrote:  

Quote:One of the other 1995 major events was the false flag attack on the Oklahoma City Federal Building.

Another conspiratorial ruse to inveigle via vomit?

Nope, Ramsey Yousef was indeed involved in the planning of OKC, as well as the WTC bombing. ( Sorry, can't point you to references as I cannot access my research on my spanned drives at the moment. )
There was also another involved in OKC who lost his life while in custody ( beaten to death ), however this guy's name eludes me.

McVeigh himself publicly claimed he acted alone, which is typical of his training upon capture. ( I.E. he lied )

[Bull Medicine]

(09-27-2011 08:52 AM)JazzRoc Wrote:  

Bull Medicine Wrote:read the article, please..

Sorry, which?

A couple of posts above - "a starter for 10" - click the link and read it why not ?

(09-27-2011 08:52 AM)JazzRoc Wrote:  

Quote:You have heard of the infamous "vicsims" list, I am sure - but I have the impression that you find it perhaps too distasteful to have looked at that specific research properly. Perhaps, you have indeed read into it and declared the findings meaningless - if so, please restate that you did and came to that conclusion, here.

You are correct that I dipped in, and found no credible material, in light of the unfolding story. There is more than enough evidence for the general story.

There is also more than enough ample evidence to prove that many many people on the victim list are fictitious. Not least in the exposed use of composite facial imagery

(09-27-2011 08:52 AM)JazzRoc Wrote:  You are also correct in that I find this, and even the main story, disgusting.
When you find yourself approaching oblivion, as you will one day, it will amaze you to discover how little evidence you leave of your existence, and how what little you leave gets confabulated.

So one fabricates the rest to acheive balance presumably. Take a more serious look into that specific research is my advice, if you are as intent on truth and it's veracity. One thing for sure it isn't research of an order to be dismissed out of hand so.

(09-27-2011 08:52 AM)JazzRoc Wrote:  

Quote:it's obvious that no plane crashed at Shanksville, jr. They shot it out of the sky.

Pardon? How is it possible they shot it out of the sky, yet NO PLANE crashed? Did they use Judy Wood's "dustification" beam on it?

pish posh. Stretching over an 8 mile debris field pieces of the plane and "contents" fell to earth..ergo, the plane didn't crash. ..or if literary exactness is your need - pieces of the plane and "contents" came crashing to earth over an 8 mile radius.
I presume you haven't seen the video where Dick Cheney confirms such an order was given. It's out there.

(09-27-2011 08:52 AM)JazzRoc Wrote:  

Quote:There was no alphabet agency complicity in the 1995 bombing? Alternatively, OBL was fed information as desired in the function of [potentially] unwitting CIA asset.

It isn't possible to tell from outside.

By the same token it is then equally impossible for you to claim it wasn't the case.

[JazzRoc]

(09-27-2011 02:05 PM)JFK Wrote:  Sorry, can't point you to references as I cannot access my research on my spanned drives at the moment.

Yes. So safe...

Quote:There was also another involved in OKC who lost his life while in custody (beaten to death), however this guy's name eludes me.

News to me. Not surprising, because I really HATE "news".

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(09-27-2011 04:10 PM)Bull Medicine Wrote:  click the link and read it why not?

Because my Flash isn't working properly. Give me the link.

Quote:There is also more than enough ample evidence to prove that many many people on the victim list are fictitious. Not least in the exposed use of composite facial imagery

There are other reasons why that may happen. Suggest me one, and let's see if we agree.

Quote:So one fabricates the rest to achieve balance presumably. Take a more serious look into that specific research is my advice, if you are as intent on truth and its veracity. One thing for sure it isn't research of an order to be dismissed out of hand so.

I don''t do so because it involves an unusually great amount of work for so few results.

Quote:Stretching over an 8 mile debris field pieces of the plane and "contents" fell to earth..ergo, the plane didn't crash. ..or if literary exactness is your need - pieces of the plane and "contents" came crashing to earth over an 8 mile radius.

Ha.
The aircraft hit at one place. An engine bounced 800 yards. Papers flew up in the explosion and drifted a few miles downwind.

Quote:I presume you haven't seen the video where Dick Cheney confirms such an order was given. It's out there.

I've seen it. Of course he didn't do what you claim. Some order "stood". (NB. truthers are to make up what they wish - here.)

Quote:By the same token it is then equally impossible for you to claim it wasn't the case.

Just as well I didn't do that, then...

[Negentropic]

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Simon Shack's Original WTC 7 Study.

[Negentropic]

Original No-Plane Witness On 9/11





The handle-bar moustache construction worker guy in the car at the 41 second mark in the video above sounds like an actor and most probably IS an actor, especially since he looks a hell of a lot like this handle-bar moustache 'fireman' over here in this video below at the 1 minute 11 second mark:





Yet another coincidence ? How many people have you known in your entire life that had handlebar mustaches like that? Yet these guys found TWO to interview that same day.

Someone should take their voices and do a waveform analysis and see if they match.

They didn't even bother telling him to run and shave his greasy handlebar moustache before switching from one sorry-assed role to another for the united douchebags of the mainstream media.

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Original No-Plane Witness On 9/11





The handle-bar moustache construction worker guy in the car at the 41 second mark in the video above sounds like an actor and most probably IS an actor, especially since he looks a hell of a lot like this handle-bar moustache 'fireman' over here in this video below at the 1 minute 11 second mark:





Yet another weird coincidence ? How many handlebar-moustache guys has anyone known or even seen in their entire lives? And yet these reporters found two with the same color and style handle-bar moustache on the same day to put on camera who had seen planes crash into the towers.

What's the construction worker's name? What's the fireman's name? Can they be confirmed to have been working at their separate long-term, steady jobs on the day of 9/11 ? I doubt it.


Someone should take their voices and do a waveform analysis and see if they match.


They didn't even bother telling this guy to shave his greasy handlebar moustache before switching his sorry-assed roles.

[eyeland]

Amazing. Tell me. Were these people involved in amatuer dramatics in your opinion? Or just wannabe actors? They couldn't have been established actors could they? Someone would have recognised them wouldn't they? If they had been well established actors.

So, they must have either been involved in amatuer dramatics or just wannabe actors. Maybe they were frustrated failed actors that were prepared to take a vast one off payment for their one and only acting job ever.

How much do you think they received as a payment for the only acting job they would ever do? They surely would have had to sign a contract with the big evil 9/11 faker perps to only ever act once in their entire careers to safeguard against them being found out in their roles and fake plane eyewitnesses. It must have been a big tempting lump sum.

So then, if all the eyewitnesses that said they saw a plane are actors, then how many actors were out on the street that day? Hve you counted up how many "eyewitnesses" there are altogether?

Did all the "on the scene" reporters get a briefing to only interview the actors and no one else. How was this done? Were they all shown photographs of the actors beforehand and then briefed on exactly were to be so the fake plane eyewitnesses could pull up in their cars etc, like the tash guy and deliver their fake plane script right on cue?

Would the reporters have had to memorise all the photographs of the actors or did the camera crews, the reporters and the fake plane eyewitnesses (the actors) all just go to the scene together in vans and then jump out ready to film their pre-planned script for the unsuspecting public?

How did the guy who says it was a bomb slip through the net as it were?

Did the "bomb" eyewitness just look a bit like one of the pictures of the actors that the reporters had to memorise and the reporter just thought that the "bomb" guy looked like one of the actors whose pictures he had seen?

Please answer these questions/ It always puzzles me.

[Black_Dog]

Good points, Eyeland!

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Goog grief! He wrote a book about suicide bombers. Sounds like one of those CIA writers. But they should shut him up. He's way too sloppy.

anastasia2657 2 months ago

He keeps repeating his same "lines" over and over....

thetimeisnowtowakeup 4 months ago

WOW!! Great find...

thetimeisnowtowakeup 4 months ago

This is totally fake. That guys so fucking false. Dont be thick people! Hes an ACTOR! Hes cut out to lie to your face an keep a straight face. Hes such a fucking his records are bull shit!

duvanotus 4 months ago

6:25 LOL

ccsbrocco 5 months ago

tv fakery on 9/11

this guys a gem

all his "interests"

ccsbrocco 5 months ago

I'm surprised that Gary's cohorts haven't shut him up yet.. he's letting the cat out of the bag!

sanluisskywatch 6 months ago

@4ezMoney For sure, dead man walking! Or perhaps they gave him the ok to spread more disinfo. Either way he is a POS.

HolographicMagick 6 months ago

Hmm what an interesting "testimony"...

CokeSupply 1 year ago

I'm surprised that Gary Welz, after having revealed to the world now that he didn't "literally" see a plane crash into a Tower on 9/11, hasn't been snuffed by the perps yet. I'm sure he's tagged for termination.

4ezMoney 1 year ago