Nik's recent breakdown and subsequent proselytizing of no-planism...

[h3rm35]

I've been pretty quiet about this... but with the flabbergasted outbursts and outright seething at anyone who disagrees with your perspective it seems like you're trying to get a talk radio job, nik. Where the fuck did this come from?

Maybe it's just that I haven't gotten on your bad side before, and haven't had to deal with your gossipy bullshit both out in the open and behind the scenes, but I expected something more out of someone with your obvious intelligence than the outburts of a twelve-year-old just coming to grips with his arrested development of 25-30 years.

Over the past couple weeks (specifically,) and the last couple months (generally,) you've abused your staff standing and bitched out someone else, (of higher standing, regardless off your pirate-ship ideals) for doing the exact same thing. You've berated anyone whose challenged you on "September Clues" from the moment you started proselytizing about it. You've tried to organize some bullshit campaign to tarnish me. There are other annoyances, but these are the ones I feel like bitching about at the moment.

You can call me some kind of disinfo agent, but all I've been doing or trying to do is share that which I've researched and that I've witnessed.

You, however, have become a boorish, annoying presence - not because of your views, but because of your intolerance for other's. You might think that you can couch the whole thing with the fact that you live in east Germany, where the concept of tolerance is, by your own accounting, seriously skewed. I think the problem stems from your lack of your social interaction, coupled with your confused societal surroundings, and they have lead to you becoming unhinged in your acceptance of others.

IMO, you're free to speak your mind about public concepts whenever the fuck you want to and voice whatever disgruntlements may arise from within your clouded rationale, but there's a good reason why slander laws were enacted... When you smear people without evidence, you've crossed a line. You've crossed a lot of them, I've seen it plainly numerous times, and I've only been around "dis-informing" people for less than a year.

You're being a jackass. Mellow the fuck out.

If you're out of the homegrown, you owe it to yourself and everyone else around you to spend the cash and pick some up somewhere else.

Give it a fucking rest or start your own forum. I'm sick of seeing your numerous spammish posts all over the forum spewing the same self-aggrandizing bullshit. Get the fuck over yourself.

[nik]

that took a while. thanks for the arm chair psych... rally the troops. whatever. point is -- you are a cyber herder and you got busted

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"nik's recent breakdown and blah blah blah"

jesus christ, trying to play to the crowd much?

i didnt have a breakdown, freud -- uncomfortable as it is for the lets all just join hands crowd -- this sort of thing is necessaryon these types of boards when intelligence operatives --- such as yourself ---try and get cosy.


you dont check out hermes, you are definitely a plant

be on your merry way. I dont give a hoot that people think I am causing dischord and rocking the boat -- i am glad to stand true and do what moderators on a conspiracy forum are supposed to do --- root out creeps like you

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it's even more obvious in how feeble your attempts to make out you are legit are.

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(08-28-2010 06:00 AM)h3rm35 Wrote:  You can call me some kind of disinfo agent, but all I've been doing or trying to do is share that which I've researched and that I've witnessed.

OH REALLY? i thought you said it was a hugely painful experience and you didn't want to talk about it --- but who mentioned it first? us? did we guess? or did you bring it up for us and then say 'i dont want to talk about it'?

fuck you man, you are a traitor

[crotchy]

(08-28-2010 06:35 AM)nik Wrote:  i didnt have a breakdown -- when intelligence operatives --- such as yourself ---try and get cosy.

you dont check out hermes, you are definitely a plant

be on your merry way.

moderators on a conspiracy forum are supposed to --- root out creeps like you

you are a traitor

[nik]

what's your point, Tom ? --- why hide behind this crotchy account?

we all know who you are.

[eyeland]

I like nik. He speaks his mind.

Concen is so laid back too.

ooops I forgot this is fists of fury...errrr...you're all a bunch of fuckin slaves

[icosaface]

Yea, we know.

[h3rm35]

How am I a traitor?

[nik]

How?Why? When?Who?

questions questions questions. you won't get any more info out of me like that.

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Quote:PONDERING QUESTIONS OF STRATEGY AND OPPORTUNITY

One question which naturally emerges from the study of the 9/11 memorials is : “Even if many ‘victims’ identities appear to be entirely made up by a computer database, could it still mean that a number of real people were killed on 9/11?” Or did 9/11 claim no victims at all?

If we are to apply a logical thought-process to this particular issue, we need to look at questions of strategy and opportunity which the perpetrators must have prefigured. Surely, any sensible investigation must start by defining the type of crime that is being investigated. By defining the scope and the objectives of the crime, we should be able to rule out what the perpetrators themselves would have ruled out, in terms of unnecessary risks and liabilites. Was 9/11 designed as a barbaric murdering spree or was it more of a gigantic bank robbery? Let us make an’ educated guess’ and say that the latter is the case.

Bank robberies are considered terrible failures by the robbers themselves in the event of any bystander, guard/police officer getting killed; the sole objective of a bank assault is that of stealing money – never that of commiting murder. The penal aggravations of manslaughter is most unwelcome to any professional gangster – a grave mistake to be carefully avoided. To be sure, there was no ‘added-value’ for the 9/11 perpetrators to commit a mass murder of some 3,000, mostly white-collar professionals. As we have seen, a large amount of alleged “victims" appear to be mock-up identities. Of course, precisely how many remains to be verified. Yet, consider this: if 300 deposit-boxes are emptied by a gang of bank robbers and fingerprints are found in just thirty boxes, would they be suspected only for robbing those thirty? Or would a court of law assume that they also robbed the other 270?

The idea that nobody was killed on 9/11 is, usually and predictably, rejected offhand by many folks as ‘outrageous’ or ‘unbelievable’. Others will accept that some simulation took place - but that a number of real people must have died. So let us imagine an ‘intermediate’ scenario of, say, 1000 people being killed that day. If this were true, an immediate problem emerges: what if those 1000 families, at some stage, discovered that the other 2000 families were untraceable/non-existent? It is quite unlikely that the 9/11 planners would have run the risk of such a dire, worst-case scenario: Imagine a horde of angry families filing an avalanche of executive court orders, all demanding access to public records and official verifications! Truly a recipe for disaster… Surely, the 9/11 plotters didn’t want any of that? Thus, we may reasonably assume that every precaution was taken to ensure that NO civilian lawsuits might ‘spoil the show’; in all logic, the assassination of any number of people on 9/11 was a definite no-no, a stupid and senseless aggravation to be avoided at all costs. The chief directive of the Grand 9/11 Deception plan may well have been: “Zero casualties”.

“TOO MANY” PEOPLE INVOLVED?

The almost unlimited resources of the 9/11 planners allowed for a multifaceted simulation which certainly involved a great many people by any conspiracy standards – only a few of which needed to be fully briefed about all details of the plan. A recurring objection skeptics keep raising is that “too many people had to be involved, therefore it would have been impossible to keep them all quiet.” Not so. Allow me to set forth a brief personal perspective on this issue: As the son of an idealist Norwegian sociologist who pluckily ‘fought’ the Sicilian Mafia with a typewriter, I often like to remind people of the concept of “omertà”; in Sicily, tens of thousands of honest citizens know perfectly well the names and whereabouts of the Mafia bosses – yet they are kept silent for decades with bribes and fear. Historically – and this is a nigh but undeniable fact - cold cash and hot threats have never failed to put a lid on people’s mouths.

A limited number of people were needed to pull off the 9/11 hoax – a hoax which relied on an incalculably larger budget than any smalltown Mafia hit. Needless to say, the US executive branch also firmly controls all key government-appointed agencies, an asset no criminal organization could ever dream of. Most importantly, every single major news corporation has been, in the last 50 years or so, thoroughly infiltrated and co-opted by the higher echelons of power. Today, their globalized monopoly of world news makes them the single most powerful persuasion-machine ever known to mankind. In fact, their unchallenged control of information was a crucial player in the 9/11 plan: Most lower-level operatives involved in the execution of the plan were induced - much as the average ‘Joe Public’ - to believe in the televised version of the events.

Hence, the “too-many–people-involved” argument fails on two counts:

1: It is effectively disproved by historical precedents.
2: It does not account for the wide, unprecedented range of assets available to the 9/11 planners.

http://www.septemberclues.info/deconstructing.htm

[SiLVa]

Everytime I leave this site for a while, get away on vacation or something, I come back and there's some drama.
WTF is this all about?

[ToddTraf]

(08-30-2010 07:11 PM)SiLVa Wrote:  Everytime I leave this site for a while, get away on vacation or something, I come back and there's some drama.
WTF is this all about?

Shhhh! Its a conspiracy