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Net Neutrality
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05-07-2010, 09:19 PM
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RE: Net Neutrality
Original URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/07/...third_way/
FCC chair floats 'Third Way' to regulate net 'Narrow and tailored' By Rik Myslewski in San Francisco Posted in Networks, 7th May 2010 00:23 GMT Get Free BlackBerry Enterprise Server Express US Federal Communications Commission chairman Julius Genachowski has issued his much-anticipated response to the April federal appeals court decision (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/06/...st_order/) that threw a spanner into the works of his net-neutrality crusade. That decision said that the FCC had exceeded its authority when it ordered Comcast to stop choking (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/01/...reaction/) BitTorrent and other P2P services back in 2008. According to the appeals court, the FCC does not have the authority to "regulate an Internet service provider's network management practices." Internet pipe providers such as Comcast, Time Warner Cable, and Cablevision applauded the April decision. Pipe users such as Google and Skype - not so much. Genachowski, whose office had just released its long-awaited National Broadband Plan (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/15/...lan_two/), found himself suddenly shorn of the range of powers he needed to implement it. And so on Thursday, Genachowski revealed his response, a "narrow and tailored approach" to broadband regulation that will fully please neither pipe owners nor pipe users. The FCC chairman dubs his approach "The Third Way (http://www.broadband.gov/the-third-way-n...ski.html)." Genachowski contends that there is a broad national consensus that the FCC's role in internet-access regulation should be limited - but not absent. His Third Way envisions what he refers to as a light-touch approach. "Heavy-handed prescriptive regulation can chill investment and innovation," he writes, "and a do-nothing approach can leave consumers unprotected and competition unpromoted." But the Comcast decision, Genachowski writes, makes it difficult for the FCC to do its job because it "creates serious uncertainty about the Commission’s ability ... to perform the basic oversight functions, and pursue the basic broadband-related policies, that have been long and widely thought essential and appropriate." From his point of view, the debate over what to do about this conundrum has focused on two primary solutions. The first, named after Title I of the FCC-enabling Communications Act, would be to simply accept what has become known as the FCC's "ancillary" authority, which classifies the internet not as a telecommunications service but as an information service, a classification that gives the commission only limited powers. The second solution, Title II, would be for the FCC to reclassify internet communications as telecommunications, thus bringing them under the same direct FCC authority as are phone companies. "I have serious reservations about both of these approaches," Genachowski writes. The first solution would, in his opinion, "involve a protracted, piecemeal approach" that would as likely as not result in multiple court battle - and also as likely as not ending up with the same result as the Comcast case. The second, since it would treat internet-access providers like phone companies, would "subject the providers of broadband communications services to extensive regulations ill-suited to broadband." And so Genachowski suggests his aforementioned "Third Way," a legal framework (http://www.broadband.gov/third-way-legal...emma.html) drawn up by FCC General Counsel Austin Schlick. In a nutshell, the Third Way is a compromise between the "ancillary" and reclassification approaches, and provides the FCC with a limited extension of regulatory powers. The next step, Genachowski writes, will be a "public process seeking comment on this narrow and tailored approach" - but the FCC chairman didn't have to wait long for that process to begin. Of the five-person FCC board, the two Republicans, Robert McDowell and Meridith Baker, issued a joint statement (http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/at...948A1.pdf) (PDF) that characterizes Genachowski's approach as a "dramatic step to regulate the Internet," and which says it crosses "a regulatory Rubicon" to bring the Internet under Title II. Which, of course, is exactly what Genachowski says his Third Way doesn't do. But McDowell and Baker apparently don't believe him, calling his proposal "a stark departure from the long-established bipartisan framework," "onerous," and "an attempt to foist burdensome rules excavated from the early-Ma Bell-monopoly era onto 21st Century networks [that] will usher in a tumultuous new age of regulatory uncertainty," pose "serious ramifications across the globe," and invite a "stinging rebuke" from the courts for "attempting to shatter the boundaries" of the commission's authority. Comcast's VP of government communications, Sena Fitzmaurice, was more diplomatic: "While we are disappointed with the inclination not to lean in favor of Title I regulation, we are prepared to work constructively with the Commission to determine whether there is a 'third way' approach that allows the Commission to take limited but effective measures to preserve an open Internet and implement critical features of the National Broadband Plan, but does not cast the kind of regulatory cloud that would chill investment and innovation by ISPs." Fitzmaurice also noted that "We ... appreciate the Chairman's desire to take extremes off the table and to try to develop a path to providing ISPs and others in the Internet ecosystem with clear rules of the road about what consumers expect of them, including the Commission's need to have authority to address complaints should any arise, while avoiding the elements of Title II that are destructive to our business." While Fitzmaurice may appreciate Genachowski's desire to take extremes off the table, the FCC chairman may be hoping that the two Republicans on his panel might do the same. In any case, though, he needs only three votes on the Comission to approve his Third Way: his own, and those of his two fellow Democrats, Michael Copps and Mignon Clyburn. And those votes are apparently in the bag. Copps issued a generally supportive statement (http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/at...46A1.pdf), but noted: "Frankly, I would have preferred plain and simple Title II reclassification." Clyburn showed his hand when speaking (http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/at...949A1.pdf) Thursday at the New Media Entrepreneurship Conference, asking his audience: "Exactly what kind of Internet do you want going forward? One that is yours or one that is controlled, policed, and regulated by industry? For me, the choice is simple." And that choice isn't the internet preferred by fellow commissioners McDowell and Baker. ® Related stories * US court rules FCC can't ban BitTorrent busting (6 April 2010) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/06/...ast_order/ * Big Phone to US: 'Give us spectrum. Then shut up' (24 March 2010) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/24/att_at_ctia/ * FCC shows off spectrum map (18 March 2010) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/18/...dashboard/ * FCC plans spectrum-flog to fund broadband (17 March 2010) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/17/..._plan_two/ * US broadband seeks ISP speed stickers (17 March 2010) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/17/..._plan_one/ * US National Broadband plan goes to Congress (15 March 2010) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/15/..._plan_two/ * FCC talks National Broadband (2 March 2010) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/02/..._plan_one/ * 60 million Americans don't use the interwebs (23 February 2010) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/23/...nd_survey/ * Schmidt denies Google wants 'dumb pipe' carriers (17 February 2010) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/17/..._carriers/ * Net Neutrality: Now cures all wickedness - and Loompa scurvy, too (18 January 2010) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/18/..._firehose/ * FCC boss stumps for free and open internet (10 January 2010) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/10/...ki_at_ces/ * FCC seeks delay to US broadband plan (8 January 2010) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/08/...band_plan/ * FCC rescues American football fans (31 December 2009) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/31/..._football/ * Watchdog spanks FCC over US wireless (10 December 2009) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/10/...rt_on_fcc/ * FCC launches war of net ideologues (22 October 2009) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/22/...eut_rules/ * FCC flooded with anti-net neut letters (17 October 2009) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/17/...rs_oct_09/
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06-12-2010, 06:58 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-12-2010 07:02 AM by itsaname.)
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RE: Net Neutrality
This was a very serious ruling for jewish owned comcast. A lot of people don't understand the magnitude of it and the repercussions it could have on the net. This ruling gives comcast the right to censor downloads at a whim. In other words, if comcast doesn't like what your downloading they can just stop you from downloading it. I will just direct you to this article to show exactly who controls/owns comcast.
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2010/04/18...a-in-2010/ Where it goes from here is anyone's guess. It could go from stopping one from downloading P2P to stopping one from downloading 'occupation 101' or anything else they don't want you seeing. No, it might never get that bad, but who knows. just them having the "right" to censor any material they want isn't good at all. |
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07-23-2010, 12:09 AM
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RE: Net Neutrality
No I do not want the FCC to regulate the internet. I don't think corporations will have the ability to censor content as efficiently as the government would
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07-23-2010, 01:04 AM
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RE: Net Neutrality
They wouldn't have the desire to target dissenters as much, as that takes people and resources which hurts the bottom line, but what they will do is price the lower end of the income scale out of that information as well as many other places through giving preferred access to larger sites through a tier system and fucking over bandwidth for P2P. This essentially will end up censoring everything the government would, and then some. Neither are good solutions, but the one based on profit margin are guaranteed to continue to find new ways to further restrict access while charging more for the services provided.
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12-21-2010, 11:40 PM
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RE: Net Neutrality
Quote:FCC Gives Government Power to Regulate Web Traffichttp://digg.com/news/politics/fcc_gives_...ic_wsj_com http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...68654.html FCC Ruling News Release (dead link at time of posting but managed to dig it up and convert it) DOC-303745A1.pdf (Size: 157.76 KB / Downloads: 41)
FCC URL: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/at...303746.pdf FCC Statements (PDFs): Genachowski Statement: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/at...3746A1.pdf Copps Statement: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/at...3746A2.pdf McDowell Statement: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/at...3746A3.pdf Clyburn Statement: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/at...3746A3.pdf Baker Statement: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/at...3746A5.pdf EFF.org and Michael Geist have yet to comment on the decision. There are no others, there is only us. http://FastTadpole.com/ |
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12-22-2010, 07:42 AM
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RE: Net Neutrality
the EFF might not have commented, but freepress.org predicted it last night and live-blogged it today (filled with real time comments by paid shills and democratic employees) and released this statement when all was said and done:
Quote:Free Press: FCC Net Neutrality Order a ‘Squandered Opportunity’
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01-25-2011, 06:31 AM
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RE: Net Neutrality
Just posted this on a contest for free software. Figured it was a good change to get some people asking questions and maybe step it up a notch.
What does internet freedom mean to you? Give us your comments and win a Premium Security Suite. Not an FCC over-regulated net neutrality, internet/blogging tax and certainly not the other end of stick with a ComCast monopoly, duopoly or cartel. Perhaps having a Carrier Pigeon with a USB stick strapped to it's leg is the best way to go given our future alternatives with this fake wrestling match to usurp control of the internet from the common public. I have an inkling people will realize it's all a rigged game of ping pong and stop being the ball. Netziens will stand up and be heard before we lose our internet freedoms outright. There is no Kill Switch for human will. Engage. http://www.facebook.com/avira/posts/184021078296719 There are no others, there is only us. http://FastTadpole.com/ |
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04-08-2011, 06:15 AM
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RE: Net Neutrality
Pardon the lazy and belated picking of partisan MSM coverage but these articles pretty much give the overview and an update to the game of ping pong between "greedy evil" corporations and the "we know what's best for you and will protect your rights" government in this rigged wrestling match to get the government tentacle in the door by way of (more) crony funding, taxation and regulation like it had done with every other type of media that came before it from the printing press to the radio to the television to free speech zones.
All being done in a cowardly move by an arms length appointed committee, the FCC. This would effectively to shirk public accountability and debate over the first ruleset patch, Net Neutrality 1.0 being applied to kick things off. Quote:The Net Neutrality Couphttp://deadlinelive.info/2010/12/22/the-...lity-coup/ As this whitewash from NYT reports with a bit of controlled opposition to make for a good show of democracy. Locked and loaded .. Quote:F.C.C. Is Set to Regulate Net Traffichttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/21/busine...21fcc.html There are no others, there is only us. http://FastTadpole.com/ |
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04-08-2011, 11:02 AM
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RE: Net Neutrality
It's really simple.
If you own an ISP and the means to deliver TV, then you have a conflict of interest. Why won't the powers that be; acknowledge this simple fact. My Psychiatrist Committed Suicide "I'm going to tell you something you won't believe." David Vincent |
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04-10-2011, 12:20 AM
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House Passes Anti-Net Neutrality Resolution
Saturday 9 April 2011
by: Nadia Prupis, Truthout The Republican-controlled House of Representatives on Friday, with the support of a handful of Democrats, passed a joint resolution to repeal the Federal Communications Commission's (FCC) net neutrality regulations that would enforce competitive behavior among Internet companies. Democrats who voted in favor of the resolution along with their Republican colleagues are Reps. Dan Boren (D-Oklahoma), Sanford Bishop (D-Georgia), a conservative Blue Dog, David Scott (D-Georgia), Kurt Shrader (D-Oregon), Bennie Thompson (D-Mississippi) and Collin Peterson (D-Minnesota). H.J. Res. 37, which disapproves of FCC rules “relating to the matter of preserving the open Internet and broadband industry practices,” passed 240-179. The resolution will now be sent to the Senate for a vote, where it is unlikely to be approved by the Democratic majority. As Truthout previously reported, the resolution of disapproval is a rarely used procedure that allows Congress to formally reject and reverse the actions of a federal agency. House Republicans previously introduced a resolution of disapproval last November to overturn the Dodd-Frank financial reform law, but were unsuccessful. Rep. Greg Walden (R-Oregon), chairman of the House Communications Subcommittee, said the anti-net neutrality resolution amounted to Congress recognizing that it had not “authorized the FCC to regulate the Internet.” “If not challenged, the FCC's power grab would allow it to regulate any interstate communications service on barely more than a whim and without any additional input from Congress,” Walden said. Parul P. Desai, policy counsel for the Consumers Union, said FCC regulations are necessary to prevent Internet providers from limiting or blocking access to legal websites. “When consumers spend money on Internet service, they expect to be able to surf the web openly,” Desai said. “Internet providers should not limit your choices to their preferred sites. That's why we need rules, like the FCC’s framework, to maintain an open Internet.” Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-California), whose district includes Facebook and Google as constituent companies, said that if the resolution “were about innovation, jobs, competition, or consumers, the majority wouldn't really be offering it, because it disables a free and open Internet,” noting that “more than 150 organizations... have lined up against it.” During a House committee hearing on April 4, Eshoo said that “without the FCC's basic 'rules of the road,' nothing will prevent large corporations from carving the Internet into fast and slow lanes, deciding which sources of news, information, and entertainment consumers and business can access.” One of the major backers of the anit-net neutrality resolution is Freedom Works, a right-wing nonprofit organization, that has received funding from Verizon and AT&T, who stand to benefit if the law is overturned, and the Koch Brothers family fountain. The group's president, Matt Kibbe, said net neutrality, “is likely to cripple competition, restrict innovation, reduce employment and raise costs for all consumers... The FCC's net neutrality regulations would restrict the freedom of all Internet users while further harming our fragile economy.” . While a majority of Democrats and Republicans voted on the resolution along party lines, several representatives did agree that the timing of the vote symbolized the potentially destructive sparring in Congress. “We would not be here today if the Democrats in the last Congress had bothered to take up a budget and pass it or even vote on it,” Walden said; Rep. Norman Dicks (D-Washington) asked his colleagues, “Why are we considering H.J. Res. 37 when we are on the verge of shutting down the House of Representatives?” Rep. Henry Waxman (D-California), ranking member of the Energy & Commerce Committee, said that H.J. Res. 37 “would give big phone and cable companies control over what websites Americans can visit, what applications they can run, and what devices they can use. The Internet may be the greatest engine in our economy today... [because] it is open.” One question that remains unanswered is whether the FCC actually has the authority to regulate the Internet. A federal appeals court in April 2010 ruled that the commission does not have that power, stating that Congress must have explicitly authorize it to do so; rather, the FCC has “ancillary jurisdiction” granted by sections of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it. Mohandas Gandhi Each of us is put here in this time and this place to personally decide the future of humankind. Did you think you were put here for something less? Chief Arvol Looking Horse |
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04-10-2011, 12:33 AM
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RE: House Passes Anti-Net Neutrality Resolution
(04-10-2011 12:20 AM)icosaface Wrote: Saturday 9 April 2011 Starting at the bottom. 1) Wouldn't Congress giving the FCC the power to enforce Net Neutrality be explicit authorization? Moving up. 2) The GOP is worried about the lack of competition? Get real, they want to stifle any all competition their paymasters might face including competing ideas. 3) Another article about the bill being repealed My Psychiatrist Committed Suicide "I'm going to tell you something you won't believe." David Vincent |
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04-11-2011, 05:44 AM
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RE: House Passes Anti-Net Neutrality Resolution
Why would we want the FCC to control the internet, just because the Republicans are against it? This is the same agency that fines people millions of dollars for petty stuff like saying 'curse words'. And censors free speech.
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04-11-2011, 05:48 AM
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RE: Net Neutrality
'Net Neutrality' means the FCC regulating the internet. I'm not sure what else it's supposed to mean. I've never been blocked from a site by my provider Verizon. It's just more nonsense from the left in my opinion. What would make the internet more fair if anything would be more competition, and I'm sure that the big internet providers most likely get subsidies from the government and what not. But what we don't need is the government controlling the internet and that's what net so-called neutrality is. If they get control they'll probably go after copyright violations i.e. downloading more aggressively too.
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04-11-2011, 07:00 AM
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RE: Net Neutrality
(04-11-2011 05:48 AM)Infinite Wrote: 'Net Neutrality' means the FCC regulating the internet. I'm not sure what else it's supposed to mean. I've never been blocked from a site by my provider Verizon. It's just more nonsense from the left in my opinion. What would make the internet more fair if anything would be more competition, and I'm sure that the big internet providers most likely get subsidies from the government and what not. But what we don't need is the government controlling the internet and that's what net so-called neutrality is. If they get control they'll probably go after copyright violations i.e. downloading more aggressively too. We are having a similar debate in Canada where sites have been blocked by providers http://thetyee.ca/News/2005/08/04/TelusCensor/ The point of Net Neutrality is to let the content flow. Otherwise, your ISP could block any site they feel might hurt their bottom line. My Psychiatrist Committed Suicide "I'm going to tell you something you won't believe." David Vincent |
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04-11-2011, 07:01 AM
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RE: House Passes Anti-Net Neutrality Resolution
(04-11-2011 05:44 AM)Infinite Wrote: Why would we want the FCC to control the internet, just because the Republicans are against it? This is the same agency that fines people millions of dollars for petty stuff like saying 'curse words'. And censors free speech. But corporations censoring free speech is acceptable? My Psychiatrist Committed Suicide "I'm going to tell you something you won't believe." David Vincent |
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