SWINE FLU HOGWASH

[hilly7]

SWINE FLU HOGWASH

Dr. Ron Paul Says ‘Flu Hype’ Designed To Scare Americans


By Ralph Forbes

An international businessman who performs major work for the Department of Health and Human Services told AFP that fear mongering by Washington and the World Health Organization about swine flu is an attempt to scare people into allowing global control of the healthcare system.

From 300,000 to 500,000 cases of flu are reported in the United States each year and 30,000 to 40,000 die, he pointed out. At the moment of this interview, 100 cases of the flu variant called “swine” had been reported. Yet, all of the major newspapers and news broadcasts breathlessly report on the “swine flu pandemic” to the virtual exclusion of other developments throughout the world.

Health and Human Service Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Janet Napolitano, Department of Homeland Security flack, take the absurd position that the United States is under a dire threat of a swine flu epidemic but Mexicans, legal and illegal, should continue to be welcomed as they cross the border into this country. The swine flu outbreak originated in Mexico City, with 2,000 cases so far.




But the public hysteria continues, with some wise dissent. “I am outraged . . . [It’s] an evil political maneuver . . . blatant advertising efforts to panic the people into taking swine flu shots . . . those who were responsible should be held morally accountable to the American public,” said Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.), M.D.

The swine flu pandemic has knocked the bad news of the economy and the torture scandals off the front pages. Talking heads repeat the official line—“We have no real answers”—of the latest swine flu scare, but the real news is what the establishment news media fails to tell you— or quickly kills if it leaks out.

“How did it start in Mexico, where did it emanate from? We’ve been able to find that out in all previous pandemics. The question now is to get at the heart of how this started—did it start from the occasion of viruses coming together or did it come out of a lab? All those questions have to be answered”—Ret. Army General Russell Honor� on CNN.

Why was the initial epicenter of this flu attack in sunny Mexico, long after the seasonal influence was over? How did at least four different varieties of swine, avian and human flu viruses—from four different parts of the world, North America, Asia and Europe—all travel to Mexico and unnaturally reassert their genetic sequences into a mysterious recombinant chimera?

“This strain of swine influenza that’s been cultured in a laboratory is something that’s not been seen anywhere actually in the United States and the world, so this is actually a new strain of influenza that’s been identified,” said Dr. John Carlo, Dallas County medical director.

This interview revealing “cultured in a lab” was buried in the Memory Hole under a tidal wave of “it’s a mystery” experts, disinformation and planted nonsense. “Cultured in a lab” solves a lot of mysteries.

Why does the H5N1 virus subtype—in nature a benign, commonplace virus which most birds carry with no harm to themselves or humans—suddenly become a virulent killer? Many say this mis-named “Spanish flu” (really the “Kansas flu”) was an artificially created variant of H1N1. It killed some 50 million to 100 million people worldwide from 1918 to 1919.

This Kansas Killer was extinct in the wild—until Jeffery Taubenberger of the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology dug up pathological specimens so that germ warfare specialists could experiment, using recombinant DNA techniques to insert the lethal genome into countless mixes of viruses.

Why does this so-called “swine virus” primarily kill young, healthy adults—much like the deadly “Spanish flu” of 1918, with the unnatural phenomenon known as cytokine storm? Natural influenza strains produce the worst symptoms in young children, elderly adults, and others with weaker immune systems.

Why has Baxter International Inc. been chosen to head up efforts to produce a vaccine for the Mexican swine flu? In December 2008 Baxter International Inc. was caught shipping live avian flu viruses mixed with vaccine material to medical distributors in 18 countries, including Germany, Austria, Slovenia and the Czech Republic.

Why are Bilderbergers, such as former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, George Shultz, Lodewijk J.R. de Vink, et al., “lucky” enough to invest in Roche, the manufacturer of Tamiflu vaccine, which the media is touting as the way to save your life if infected with the mystery virus?

Why has there been an epidemic of bizarre deaths among some 80 of the top microbiologists—including David Kelly, who was “suicided” for blowing the whistle on the lies used by the neo-cons to start the war against Iraq—since the recent surge in weaponizing the deadly “Spanish flu” genome?

Ralph Forbes is a freelance writer acting as one of AFP’s Southern Bureau chiefs. For answers to many more questions and for FREE Books exposing the vaccine hoax go to http://www.KarenCares4U.com.

(Issue # 19, May 11, 2009)
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/swin...ogwash_176.html

[JazzRoc]

Please be discriminative when you watch out for conspiracy.

Ron Paul Video

The first comment below:

"I couldn't more disagree with Ron Paul. The hazard factor of this disease is much greater than the one of tuberculosis. Secondly, the spreading is faster than ever due to air transportation. In the last week, countries reporting infection have popped up on the map, and Ron Paul is suggesting that the government shouldn't deal with this issue?"

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[hilly7]

I'd have to go with Dr Paul on this.

The videos below is way off.

1 The Spanish Flu was in 1918, not 1920 at the start.

2 We now know it was a Strep infection.

3 Bird Flu is NOT H2H transferrable. Unless you are eating raw meat with blood in it.

4 I don't trust the WHO. Look up their real history.

5 Probaby, Potential, If.

The guy is just rambling with little true knowledge to spread fear.

[JazzRoc]

Quote:We now know it was a Strep infection.

?

WIKI:

The 1918 flu (commonly and incorrectly referred to as the Spanish flu) was an influenza pandemic that spread to nearly every part of the world. It was caused by an unusually virulent and deadly Influenza A virus strain of subtype H1N1. Historical and epidemiological data are inadequate to identify the geographic origin of the virus. Most of its victims were healthy young adults, in contrast to most influenza outbreaks which predominantly affect juvenile, elderly, or otherwise weakened patients. The pandemic lasted from March 1918 to June 1920, spreading even to the Arctic and remote Pacific islands. It is estimated that anywhere from 20 to 100 million people were killed worldwide, or the approximate equivalent of one third of the population of Europe, more than double the number killed in World War I. This extraordinary toll resulted from the extremely high illness rate of up to 50% and the extreme severity of the symptoms, suspected to be caused by cytokine storms. The pandemic is estimated to have affected up to one billion people: more than half the world's population at the time.

Scientists have used tissue samples from frozen victims to reproduce the virus for study. Given the strain's extreme virulence there has been controversy regarding the wisdom of such research. Among the conclusions of this research is that the virus kills via a cytokine storm (overreaction of the body's immune system) which explains its unusually severe nature and the concentrated age profile of its victims. The strong immune systems of young adults ravaged the body, whereas the weaker immune systems of children and middle-aged adults caused fewer deaths.

I see you're still struggling with logic, Hilly. Perhaps referencing things will help you. I mean:

Scientists have used tissue samples from frozen victims to reproduce the virus for study. AND

We now know it was a Strep infection. - WHAT?:nono:

Quote:Bird Flu is NOT H2H transferrable. Unless you are eating raw meat with blood in it.

Can't remember the last time I ate someone... ...honest...:)

Seriously, stage 5 means H2H. It could start off a pussy and end up a tiger. There's no way of predicting the direction of mutation.

On a lighter note - maybe it'll clear the decks of people who don't believe in Evolution...:LOL:

[hilly7]

LOL, maybe so, or clear out the monkey people.

You reference Wiki? I'll bet you also watch and believe CNBC, MSNBC, and Fox. Of course though, that also explains your faith in the WHO. They have tried to change from their founder, and done better than they were. Then again, unless tunneling, when your down there with whale shit, there's only one way to go.

Now you claim to be a scientist on chemtrail forums, stating you must have proof. Yet you display a guy that is full of thoughts, a marker, and his blackboard? I'll just bet he colors on it when he is done. Two sided coin you use with your "logic". You apparently don't know the difference between Theory and Reality. It's raining so I'll teach you.

A boy one day asked his dad what the difference between Theory and Reality was. The dad tried to explain it but seen he wasn't getting through.
"Son, go and ask your mother, then your sister if they would have sex with a stranger for money".

The boy did and came back and said they both said no and were pissed off over the question. The dad told the boy to go back and ask the question and say to each, "For a million dollars."

The boy returned and said they had both said yes.

"There you have it son", the dad stated. "The difference between Theory and Reality." The boy shrugged.

"In Theory, we're living with 2 million dollars. In reality we're living with 2 whores."

[mexika]

I wonder if the swine flu scare tactic is meant to quarantine nations and destroy the economies of any nation by preventing it from trading in the world market. like in Mexico, first they said it was in the 152 death cases, than it shot out to 27,000 somewhere in youtube dis-information, than airport screening started taking place, buses from mexico would be stopped and checked randomly. I think some devil bastards are trying to destroy economies, take control of health systems, and get rich from it all. If you wanted to destroy any nation, infect the populace with disease, declare it off-limits, destroy their economy, and than send the soldiers and declare martial law. This is starting to look like 1976 where the swine flu was just a political nasty devil play to scare people into submission...

[JazzRoc]

If being convinced that everything is a conspiracy teaches you to breach your logical processes and ignore evidence, then count me out.

That cure is worse than the disease.

WIKI is a PUBLICLY-MANAGED dictionary. How on earth could ANY single agency modify it WITHOUT creating a STORM of publicity?

It's as likely as your local flea market being "managed" by Sears-Roebuck.

Mexika: If you wanted to destroy any nation, infect the populace with disease, declare it off-limits, destroy their economy, and than send the soldiers and declare martial law.

You don't seem to understand. A new H2H virus "released" into a world-wide travel scenario is an UNKNOWN QUANTITY.

IT WILL MUTATE - INTO EITHER A LESS OR A MORE VIRULENT STRAIN. EITHER!

Preparing AV tools isn't going to help ANYONE if it mutates into a more virulent strain.

Personally I believe that a decent and sensible democratic right to vote would require a test which both of you would fail.

[Hans Olo]

Quote:Preparing AV tools isn't going to help ANYONE if it mutates into a more virulent strain.

Except the pharmaceutic industry, they should make a decent profit anyway.

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Quote:

Quote:Preparing AV tools isn't going to help ANYONE if it mutates into a more virulent strain.

Except the pharmaceutic industry, they should make a decent profit anyway.

That irony that Baxter gets the contract is not lost on me.

[Guest]

Quote:If being convinced that everything is a conspiracy teaches you to breach your logical processes and ignore evidence, then count me out.

But there was a conspiracy! It was between a bird, a pig and a human, to all give each other the flu. Or so goes the official theory.:rolleyes:

As for me, a test tube or a petri dish makes a lot more sense.;)

[Hans Olo]

Or maybe... man-bird-pig (Al Gore)? The virus is definitely half man, half bird and half bird! Were the South Park creators on to something?

[JazzRoc]

Quote:Or maybe... man-bird-pig (Al Gore)?

Definitely.

Quote:The virus is definitely half man, half bird and half bird!

That's half-man and whole bird. Gee, my math rules...:)

Viruses need no-one's assistence to materialize. It's Evolution...

If this strain of inflenza is as virulent as the 1918 'flu then it WILL kill - and your jokes WON'T seem funny.

On this island at that time (population 50,000) the death toll in THREE WEEKS was TWENTY THOUSAND.

[Guest]

Just what makes you so sure it IS evolution JR and not engineered? Please answer me that.

It's no big secret that evil scientists have been bio-engineering diseases for decades. It's hardly
inconceivable that a pathogen might escape the lab. Maybe there is no conspiracy to have released this
and it merely got out? Who knows? To put down these possibilities to the exclusion of "evolution" is complete
folly JR and only shows how naive, or PAID you are.:)

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Quote:Just what makes you so sure it IS evolution JR and not engineered? Please answer me that.

It's no big secret that evil scientists have been bio-engineering diseases for decades. It's hardly
inconceivable that a pathogen might escape the lab. Maybe there is no conspiracy to have released this
and it merely got out? Who knows? To put down these possibilities to the exclusion of "evolution" is complete
folly JR and only shows how naive, or PAID you are.:)

here's one that had the potential to devastate, that was largely kept under wraps:

Quote:The Sunshine Project
Biosafety Bites #21 (v.2)
Updated (26 January 2007)

Originally published on 11 January 2007, Biosafety Bites #21 describes an incident involving a genetically engineered cross of H5N1 ("bird flu") and H3N2 influenza that occurred in a BSL-3 lab at the University of Texas at Austin (UT) on 12 April 2006. It is based upon UT records, specifically, UT's incident report of 13 April 2006, biosafety committee minutes, e-mails, and letters acquired under the Texas Public Information Act.

After publication of Biosafety Bites #21, UT was contacted by several journalists. UT provided information to the journalists that contradicts what is stated in UT's records. UT's contradictions prompted further uncertainty about the facts of the incident and how UT managed it.

Seeking to clarify the public record, on 19 January 2007, the Sunshine Project submitted ten questions to UT's Vice President for Research, Juan Sanchez. On 25 January, Sanchez replied with answers to the questions and two additional items - a new version of UT's accident report, and document titled "Message for Lab Incident" (talking points used by UT's public relations department).

The Sunshine Project believes that UT's reply remains deficient in many respects. What actually happened? We are unconvinced that there was no public health threat. For example, UT now claims that none of its staff knew the identity of the virus that was being researched until 5 days after the incident. This does not sound plausible. Has UT handled this accident and requests for information about it well? We believe the answer is an emphatic "no". Rather than being striaghtforward, the University has demonstrated a disheartening pattern of misleading statements and intellectual dishonesty. (For example, about the nature of its work with allegedly "non-infectious parts" H5N1.)

Is UT trying to cover up a more serious accident than it has admitted to? We believe that there is a strong possibility that this is true. Readers are invited to judge for themselves. Below, we have posted the relevant documents and the Sunshine Project's rebuttal to the information provided by UT's Juan Sanchez in late January 2007.

http://www.sunshine-project.org/ibc/bb21.html

[hilly7]

It makes me wonder just what the other hand is doing during this distraction. I don't doubt that they will release biowarfare eventually and who knows, maybe this was an attempt. If it was it was a poor one. Same scientist must have been in charge that was in charge of the melting polar ice cap research, opps, forgot the 196,000 miles of ice. Barely a spec on the global map.

It could have been to harm the Mexican economy, especially since they went to the IMF and borrowed money. Then again, the bond could be stronger now for a "global community", ie: the world Bank & IMF now own another country.

Now as for Wiki being the ultimate source JR, they proved that changing history on corporations like Monsanto and there are threads of other info they have ammended. They're busted.

You can also leave out the "democratic" bullshit. Look up the democratic definition, means simply, mob rules. Most countries are Republics of the laws or Constitutions.

As for it could mutate, yes it could. It's also possible that a super volcano could erupt, Asteroid could hit the earth, the mother ship could land, or we could die taking a shit. Nature has seen fit for thousands of years not to mutate the viruses, not to say she couldn't, but man usually takes up the slack and does it for her. Now maybe they wanted it to grow, but it hasn't so far. The regular flu kills 250,000-500,000 people each year.

Welcome to the world of us ignorant farmers, or so you think. Part of farming is knowing sickness in animals and which ones you can transmit to them, they to you, and they to each other. How the diseases are transmitted and what to do for them. The Spanish Flu was also determined by DOCTORS (ie: real medical ones) to be a Strep Infection. Perhaps if they had the knowledge to know that back then many wouldn't have to die. Are you adding a medical degree to your list of accomplishments? It was also determined where and how it was spread in America, or should I say who spread it and the motives of the disease.

I sincerely hope you are that paid, I'd hate to think your that naive.