I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things
04-15-2010, 05:16 AM (This post was last modified: 04-15-2010 05:24 AM by jack.)
RE: I'm Just A Little Curious About Some Things
this thread is a bit steamy
(04-14-2010 06:24 PM)h3rm35 Wrote: Considering how much certain people on this forum bash on democrats (not that they don't deserve it,) it's amazing how much the same people imitate JACKASSES!
where/who are these members ? Would you please point out some of their posts for me, or are you just referring to one or two obvious at the moment ?
Quote:I appreciate your perspective - I work my ass off, too, but I don't think I'm better than the average low-income earner or person stuck with food stamps - I've been there myself out of necessity. I volunteer time to help the homeless because I can afford to do that now, rather than scraping every second for survival. Now, I happen to be a white man in his thirties with blue eyes, but I see men just like me when I'm volunteering with the same (or better,) work ethic that can't get a break because they're black or latino. That's just fucked up. Elitist pricks won't even give them a shot - because they're ignorant prejudiced bastards.
I am wondering where you live bc where I live here in the states it is not this way, i see plenty examples of this on tv or in editorials but not in the real world around me.
I know plenty of middle class black people, and employed, doing ok mexicans.
(i use those descriptions intentionally bc i'm sick and tired of all the political correctness, the latinoes here are almost all from mexico (the race of latino families that have been here for generations are mostly middle class) - so what/why can't i call them mexicans ? i'm called american big deal, and the black people here have never been to africa nor their parents or grandparents, they can call caucasians white - so what's the bid deal ?) anyhow
I see very little racism going on around me, most of us get along just fine, and the majority of it that I do see is black on white - this seems to be accelerating since the great bho arrived and the media keeps talking about it.
Funny, I see race on the net or news more and more but it sure isn't the reality here in my city or state.
Homeless people are not who anyone is complaining about, and sure they are going to have a hard time getting a break,>bc they are homeless -catch 22 - no address, no job.
Are they homeless bc they are mentally ill ? (lots of that)
By choice ? (some folks are ya know)
or bc they were doing ok then the shit poured down on them ?
my mate lost a good low middle income job, took a year to replace it with a job that pays less than half of the previous one. It's just dumb luck that we didn't lose our shelter and are keeping it (repairing it is a problem tho.)
Frankly right now, this exact present time > none of the residents here that need employment are getting a break, no matter who they are.
There are very few jobs here and the ones there are don't pay enough to even pay taxes, they take it out but you get it all back (fed at least) >yes, it's that bad.
The better paying jobs seem to be being taken by people who weren't even living in america when they applied, it really is amazing just how diverse this city has become over the last 20 some years since I moved here and how many I meet that move here bc of getting the job (most seem quite nice and friendly, but there were plenty of ppl already here that are quite capably and would of loved to have the job, but somehow the loop has left out the local community - of all skin tones)
When I got here there were jobs for all and good ones at that, professional and factory/construction for the folks without college degrees, everybody who wanted one could find one no matter who you were, but that is the past and most of the growth has stopped.
Funny, I like to talk a lot about both sides being bullshit, but it is usually a divided issue this "free ride" one.
The left plays bleeding heart, and the right plays greedy bastard, and they manage to influence a lot of peeps along the way > but I don't witness with my own two eyes either side being corret - or both are correct.
Let's be real, there truly are LOADS of ppl that are cheating the system (at least right here in my state) AND there are LOADS of unfortunate individuals, disabled, elderly, young single mothers without a chance of earning enough at walton's world, and families/or singles that the shit just poured down on them. All these (imo) rightly need help from others whether it be from the gov or real help from real people. The last group however (the ones down on their luck due to unfortunate events and sometimes the single moms are the only ones that use it temporarily, the cheaters have NO intention of stopping, > it's a lifestyle and believe it or not it IS generational, I see it every day (that's right, "i got friends in low places.") and the cheating is equally applied by both white and black americans here in this state.
tax towards assistance is really quite a complex issues that is way beyond "they need help" or "they are lazy bums" yet these seem to be the only sides i hear, >and there are plenty of examples of each side to use as propaganda.
I think they get us peons focusing on these things so that we don't realize how much welfare the corps receive.
Bottom Line > Welfare on humans in america is a drop in the bucket compared to the tax dollars going to multi-million dollar corporations
& both sides > right and left are in on it !!!
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