(04-14-2010 09:27 PM)NickHedge Wrote: Duh, yeah I know about voter fraud, but can we please move past the obvious? We all know the game is rigged. But you still are forced to look at the people.
Do the people have a voice in their own "elections" (or selections, if you will)? No, they don't. But they BELIEVE they do. They tell themselves they do. Most politicians begin life as lawyers. They already know how to manipulate words and situations. They know what the people want to hear and they know the law and how to manipulate it.
Ever see the episode of "Family Guy" where Lois runs against Mayor West to clean up the city? She started out trying to be honest with the people but they didn't want to hear honesty. Then she realized if she used "buzz words" like "9-11" they went wild with enthusiasm. It's too close to reality.
That is how it is in real life, with one exception. Most politicians don't start out honestly. They already know the game. The new game becomes what lies will get them where they want to be. All they have to do is say the magic words (whatever they may be). Barry used the line "Change you can believe in". People wanted anyone but Bush so they bought the line. They wanted something different. They got it. He didn't tell them how different or in what way it would be different. NO ONE ASKED HIM. The people are to blame for this. For being so desperate, so gullible, so blind, so deaf, so stupid.
If someone cons you out of your money, who's fault is it? The con mans? Or yours?
The right answer is that it is your fault. The con man didn't force you to give up your money. You willing gave it to him. It's your fault. The same game applies to politicians. Both games are rigged, that's a fact. But you will only give up your money if you WANT to believe what you are being told. You will only support a politician if you want to believe what you are being told. Same difference.
Rig the voting all you want. But no matter who you choose you will lose. It's a no win situation. BUT THAT DOES NOT ABSOLVE THE PEOPLE. Here's why.
Bush beat everyone over the head with "Patriotism" after 9-11. If people were true PATRIOTS they would have never let things get this far gone to begin with because they would have been protecting what they say they hold so dear to them. The people have become so complacent and lazy and negligent that ANYONE who tells them something that tickles their ears would be the new flavor of the moment. That is all it takes. Had the people been watching from the very beginning they would not be here now. But they slacked, they took the easy way, they CHOSE to believe the lies. No one made them. They chose. Now they have a mess that is bigger than they are and there is nothing they can do about it. Because even now they are scrambling to try and save toys, houses, things, jobs, etc. They are scared shitless of losing all that they have accumulated. They still don't get it. I listen to these people and their excuses, their heads are still in the wrong place. They won't get it until much, much later, if they ever do at all. They haven't even gotten really angry yet. They are still waiting for the stock market to move or for jobs to being again, or for better times just around the corner OR FOR THE RIGHT PERSON TO SAVE THEM. They haven't lost enough yet. Haven't been hit hard enough yet. Haven't suffered enough yet.
They still believe after all this that there is someone out there who will help them. They will not take matters into their own hands - they don't know how. They have forgotten what it is to be independent.
If you tell me that you can't see this, I don't know what else to say. I have tried to make it as simple as I can, it cannot be that hard to see.
Most of my fellow underclassies realise the bad shape of the state, is my experience anyway..that It is the projection of the "middleclass revolt" idea, you are talking about?
Have you Listened to George Friedman's "The Next Hundred Years" audiobook or read it?
Well worth being familiar with imo.
He posits America is NOT in economic danger, China is a paper tiger, the scope and methodology of geopolitical forecasting and his figures are worth checking out.
I am not a fan of Friedman nor accept his ideas as sacrosanct in any way but this is something we all should listen to here on this site as a required reading piece. jmo