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Satan A Victim Of Bad Pr, Professor Says
08-18-2006, 10:00 PM
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Satan A Victim Of Bad Pr, Professor Says
By Ruth Gledhill

August 07, 2006 12:00am
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THE Devil has been unfairly and wilfully maligned and deserves a reassessment, according to a new study.

Professor Henry Ansgar Kelly, a medievalist, says the Devil has had unfair press and has been the victim of groundless aspersions. Satan is no more evil than the head of MI5 or the prime minister, he says.

In his book Satan: A Biography, to be published by Cambridge University Press this month, the California university academic argues that interpretation of the Bible shows that the Devil suffered a "severe blackening of character" by the clergy, early church fathers, artists, philosophers and religious scholars. The "Devil is in the detail" - literally, he says.

The reassessment of Satan comes hot on the heels of attempts to recast Judas in saintly form. Professor Kelly does not go as far as that, but he does call on theologians to consider whether the Devil is as bad as traditionally depicted.

Instead of being the personification of evil, Satan is a "divine functionary" whose kingdom is the earth, he says.

"My advice is, forget about evil and worry about evil deeds and the people who commit them," he said.

His interpretation is accepted by many biblical scholars. The theory provides an explanation for the presence of evil and suffering, without denying the existence or omniscience of God.

Professor Kelly refers to traditional texts, such as the Lord's Prayer, where the line "Deliver us from evil" is written in some prayer books as "Deliver us from the Evil One".

Most Christians believe that Satan was an angel named Lucifer who rebelled against God at the beginning of Creation. After being thrown out of Heaven, he tempted Adam and Eve into sin, and since then has strived to win souls for his kingdom of Hell.

But Professor Kelly argues that none of this is in the Bible, and that it represents conclusions drawn by the early church fathers and read back into the Bible.

He argues from Revelation, at the end of the Christian Scriptures, that Satan remains in Heaven, as the "accuser of humankind", and will stay there until the Battle of Armageddon, when he will be imprisoned in the abyss. After a brief release, he will be imprisoned in the lake of fire for eternity.

He says Lucifer is not synonymous with Satan, arguing that in the Hebrew Bible, only the King of Babylon is called Lucifer, or the morning star, cast down to earth (Isaiah xiv, 12). In the New Testament, Jesus is referred to as the star of the morning (II Peter i, 19). Nor is Satan the serpent who tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, he says.

Professor Kelly argues from Luke iv that Satan is a minister of God in charge of the world.

"He's a government heavy, whose main job is to test human beings and to accuse them of their misdeeds, but he is cynical and overzealous in performing his duties," the professor says. "We can think of an unscrupulous and feared official investigator or prosecutor, like J.Edgar Hoover or senator Joseph McCarthy."

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08-18-2006, 10:06 PM (This post was last modified: 08-18-2006 10:19 PM by DHammer.)
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what a joke, what a piece of trash, what scumbags, what blasphemy, what moronic "arguments" (if I can even call them that) what sickening requests they have what lies and distortions they bring forth what malicious people they are.
Quote:"the Devil suffered a "severe blackening of character" by the clergy, early church fathers,"

Proof ?! It's ridiculous, the devil is as black as it can get, as evil as it can get, he`s the WORST of the WORST, and there will be NO mercy for him(I'm not saying that, the Bible does). We simply don't have enough words in our vocabulary to describe this evil character that satan is. He hates humankind with an unspeakable passion, each and everyone of us.
Quote:Isaiah 14:12
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

The only person that fell from heaven was satan (!) and his angels. It wasnt some babylonian king (how in the world could a babylonian king fall from heaven !? ). It was a supernatural being called lucifer (meaning LIGHT bearer , thus he likes to pose as the good guy) and lately satan (meaning enemy).

he`s as real as he can get and I hate him THIS much.

gah I still cant believe what this man says, it's like stating the globalists are not THAT evil, they`re just there to make us better people, more aware and concious of the things around us. gosh , if it wasn't for them we would have stagnated and still lived in houses of wood and timber , thank goodness they were there to "motivate" us and make us evolve as a society. NO, they`re a parasite, a curse, a PLAGUE, they`re not useful nor good, same goes for satan, he`s not there to make us better humans or "see who can be reliable and who can't" , he`s there because he hates humans and wants to see us all burning in hell.

Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

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08-19-2006, 04:25 AM
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i posted a bit about this in the secret society forum
http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=429

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08-24-2006, 09:09 AM
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Quote:he`s as real as he can get and I hate him THIS much.
Leave the poor being alone, what's he ever done to you??:rolleyes:

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08-24-2006, 01:13 PM
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keep in mind the guy that is doing this is a jesuit.
Quote:Satan is no more evil than the head of MI5 or the prime minister, he says.

thats not saying much for satan..

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08-24-2006, 01:57 PM
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Quote:keep in mind the guy that is doing this is a jesuit.
What relevance does this have? lmao

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08-24-2006, 02:33 PM
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i guess i dont understand what you find funny about this? its basically the catholic church that is trying to redeem satan.

Absolutist Papal Maxims of the Jesuits

1. There is but one Supreme Authority in the World, and that is the Pope.
2. God hath delivered over unto the Pope the Power and Rule of Heaven and Earth, therefore we must be obedient unto him upon pain of damnation.
3. All Right and Power are lodged in his Breast.
4. No Law can be made to bind Christians, but by the Pope’s Authority, as of old the Israelites received none but by Moses.
5. The Gospel would not be the Gospel, if the Pope had not approved of it.
6. The Pope can take away any man’s Right, and give it to another.
7. The Pope can do any thing, above all Right, against all Right and without all Right.
8. If Christ commands one thing, and the Pope another thing, the Pope is rather to be obeyed than Jesus Christ.
9. The Pope’s Decretory Letters are to be received and esteemed as Authentic as the Word of God or the Holy Scriptures.
10. It is Sacrilege to question the Pope’s Actions, and he is cursed of God who violates the Pope’s censures.
11. If the Pope affirm that to be black, which our Eyes judge to be white, we ought also then to declare, that it’s black, upon pain of our souls.
12. The Pope hath the sole Rule and Power of the whole World in Temporals as well as in Spirituals, and therefore can depose Emperors and Kings, and may dispose of their Dominions as he shall think convenient.
13. If the Pope shall depose a King and give his Kingdom to another, and the people will not receive him, the Pope may bring him in by force of Arms, because he is Judge of all and instead of God on Earth.
14. Not to believe that the Pope can depose Kings is [to be], and that deservedly, damned for Heresy.
15. Christ had not done wisely if he had not left the Pope power to depose Kings.
16. If a King be a Heretic or favorer of Heresy he may be deposed.
17. If the Pope shall declare a King to be a Heretic, he hath no right to his Kingdom, and the Pope may depose him.
18. The Pope can give the people liberty either to choose or take new Masters; by this means they keep all Kings and Princes in their Obedience and Submission to the Pope.
19. All Protestants are Heretics, and therefore they ought to be killed.
20. It is better and safer to make alliance and amity with Turks, Infidels, or Jews, than with Heretic Protestants, because they may draw us into the errors of their novelties. {1}

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08-24-2006, 04:46 PM
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What if they got it wrong from the very begining and Satan is the good guy?

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08-24-2006, 05:30 PM
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Now that would be something, lmao

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08-24-2006, 09:29 PM
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Another reason for me not to come here lol

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08-25-2006, 08:05 AM
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Hehe, not because of me eh Og??

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