Philosophy Of Liberty

[harmonius]

Quote:Liberty is something a master gives his slave.

Liberty is the amount of feet that a dog can walk in the park when he has a leash around his neck.

IMO a false statement, and a non-sequitur.

Freedom and liberty are not given they are taken. That goes both ways. Someone may say you are free but it is meaningless unless you take it, own it, and defend it.

There is another word that begins with 'L' that better describes how much 'liberty' the dog is given: Latitude. No matter how many liberties a slave is 'given,' they are still a slave. Same goes for the dog. Allowing liberties is a sleight of mind.

Unencumbered freedom and liberty is actually Anarchy.

Quote:lib·er·ty /ˈlɪbərti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lib-er-tee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -ties.
1. freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.
2. freedom from external or foreign rule; independence.
3. freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice.
4. freedom from captivity, confinement, or physical restraint: The prisoner soon regained his liberty.
5. permission granted to a sailor, esp. in the navy, to go ashore.
6. freedom or right to frequent or use a place: The visitors were given the liberty of the city.
7. unwarranted or impertinent freedom in action or speech, or a form or instance of it: to take liberties.
8. a female figure personifying freedom from despotism.
—Idiom
9. at liberty,
a. free from captivity or restraint.
b. unemployed; out of work.
c. free to do or be as specified: You are at liberty to leave at any time during the meeting.


free·dom /ˈfridəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[free-duhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under physical restraint: He won his freedom after a retrial.
2. exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc.
3. the power to determine action without restraint.
4. political or national independence.
5. personal liberty, as opposed to bondage or slavery: a slave who bought his freedom.
6. exemption from the presence of anything specified (usually fol. by from): freedom from fear.
7. the absence of or release from ties, obligations, etc.
8. ease or facility of movement or action: to enjoy the freedom of living in the country.
9. frankness of manner or speech.
10. general exemption or immunity: freedom from taxation.
11. the absence of ceremony or reserve.
12. a liberty taken.
13. a particular immunity or privilege enjoyed, as by a city or corporation: freedom to levy taxes.
14. civil liberty, as opposed to subjection to an arbitrary or despotic government.
15. the right to enjoy all the privileges or special rights of citizenship, membership, etc., in a community or the like.
16. the right to frequent, enjoy, or use at will: to have the freedom of a friend's library.
17. Philosophy. the power to exercise choice and make decisions without constraint from within or without; autonomy; self-determination. Compare necessity (def. 7).

Liberty and fredom are claimed to be Nouns. To me they are Verbs.


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[silkworm]

One wise-ass said:

To be born a free man is an acident;
to live a free man is a reponsibility;
to die a free man is an obligation.

[Sp00k13]

Quote:Unencumbered freedom and liberty is actually Anarchy.

i dont agree with this.
Unencumbered freedom and liberty would mean all beings would have this.
Hence the need to be stronger then an opponent isnt there, since everyone is free to take the fruits they please since all belongs to all.
Anarchy is based on fear instead of liberty, anarchy is the way tribes were created, and later cities, city states and nations.
And in the near future bigger unions and a one world government.

[silkworm]

The world government would need a world religion and the humanists were volunteering. Lets looks at what the New World Government "wants".

1. Corrupt the young; get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness.
2. Get control of all means of publicity, thereby

• Get people’s mind off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays and other nivialities.

• Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matter of no importance.

• Destroy the people’s faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and disgrace.

• Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and ruthlessly as possible.

• By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.

Incite unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of the government toward such disorders.

Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscating them and leaving the population helpless.

[chasser]

LIBERTY DEFINED


1. a. The condition of being free from restriction or control.
b. The right and power to act, believe, or express oneself in a manner of one's own choosing.
c. The condition of being physically and legally free from confinement, servitude, or forced labor. See synonyms at freedom.

2. Freedom from unjust or undue governmental control.

3. A right or immunity to engage in certain actions without control or interference: the liberties protected by the Bill of Rights.

This sure seems like freedom to me. I alway go with the tried and true statement of "Give me liberty or give me death".

[AlexLibman]

That SWF is one of the most brilliant pieces of video or any other art ever produced by the human species!

[FastTadpole]

Simply the best summation of freedom I have ever encountered.

Post this everywhere share with everyone, spread the word.

[dicktater]

Best sources of definitions for legal terms!

Black's Law can be found as rapidshares or torrents. Bouvier's can be easily spidered. Hopefully, there will be versions of Webster's 1828 using a maybe a free Windows database app, an Access database, a MySQL database for local LAMP server, plain text, HTML, etc. for desktop/laptop in the near future. Until then...

LIBERTY

Look up definitions here:

Webster's 1828 Dictionary
[Nicely designed site with on line database]
http://www.1828-dictionary.com/d/search/word,liberty

Black's Law Dictionary 1st + 2nd editions
[Easy lookup page scans in JPG format]
http://blacks.worldfreemansociety.org/

BOUVIER'S LAW DICTIONARY 6th Ed. 1856
[Text from Bouvier's is quoted below solely because it was easier to do so without "lossiness" than the other formats.]
http://www.constitution.org/bouv/bouvier.htm

Quote:LIBERTY. Freedom from restraint. The power of acting as one thinks fit, without any restraint or control, except from the laws of nature.

2. Liberty is divided into civil, natural, personal, and political.

3. Civil liberty is the power to do whatever is permitted by the constitution of the state and the laws of the land. It is no other than natural lib-erty, so far restrained by human laws, and no further, operating equally upon all the citizens, as is necessary and expedient for the general advantage of the public. 1 Black. Com. 125; Paley's Mor. Phil. B. 6, c.5; Swifts Syst. 12

4. That system of laws is alone calculated to maintain civil liberty, which leaves the citizen entirely master of his own conduct, except in those points in which the public good requires some direction and restrant. When a man is restrained in his natural liberty by no municipal laws but those which are requisite to prevent his violating the natural law, and to promote the greatest moral and physical welfare of the community, he is legally possessed of the fullest enjoyment of his civil rights of individual liberty. But it must not be inferred that individuals are to judge for themselves how far the law may justifiably restrict their individual liberty; for it is necessary to-the welfare of the commonwealth, that the law should be obeyed; and thence is derived the legal maxim, that no man may be wiser than the law.

5. Natural liberty is the right which nature gives to all mankind, of diposing of their persons and property after the manner they judge most consonant to their happiness, on condition of their acting within the limits of the law of nature, and that they do not in any way abuse it to the prejudice of other men. Burlamaqui, c. 3, s. 15; 1 Bl. Com. 125.

6. Personal liberty is the independence of our actions of all other will than our own. Wolff, Ins. Nat. §77. It consists in the power of locomotion, of changing situation, or removing one's person to whatever place one's inclination may direct, without imprisonment or restraint, unless by due course of law. 1 Bl. Com. 134.

7. Political liberty may be defined to be, the security by which, from the constitution, form and nature of the established government, the citizens enjoy civil liberty. No ideas or definitions are more distinguishable than those of civil aud political liberty, yet they are generally confounded. 1 Bl. Com. 6, 125. The political liberty of a state is based upon those fundamental laws which establish the distribution of legislative and executive powers. The political liberty of a citizen is that tranquillity of mind, which is the effect of an opinion that he is in perfect security; and to insure this security, the government must be such that one citizen shall not fear another.

8. In the English law, by liberty is meant a privilege held by grant or prescription, by which some men enjoy greater benefits than ordiuary subjects. A liberty is also a territory, with some extraordinary privilege.

9. By liberty or liberties, is understood a part of a town or city, as the Northern Liberties of the city of Philadelphia. The same as Faubourg. (q. V.)

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I have attached an early version (zipped SWF because SWF is not allowed as attachment) of The Philosophy of Liberty with the original soundtrack, Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield, which was changed due to licensing restrictions (see below). Here is a incredible site with versions in many other languages and formats:
http://philosophyofliberty.blogspot.com/




The Philosophy of Liberty
by Ken Schoolland and Kerry Pearson
http://www.isil.org/resources/philosophy...index.html

AN ANIMATED INTRODUCTION TO THE PHILOSOPHY OF LIBERTY

This simple yet attractive and intelligent introduction to libertarian ideas, was created by ISIL Director Ken Schoolland (derived from the epilogue to Ken's free market fable The Adventures of Jonathan Gullible) and the late Kerry Pearson (original creator of the flash adaptation).
It is maintained, updated and expanded by a creative international team of Steve Cobb (USA), Mario Knesovic (Germany), Kris Haladus (Poland), and Dima Shevchanko (Russia).
The project (supported by ISIL) is an international hit. Tell your non-libertarian friends about it! And feel free to copy or link it to your website(s) – just be sure to credit us.

The flash is available in:
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Also in . . .
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(NOTE: ISIL presents "La Filozofio de Libereco" – Esperanto translations of some of the best books supporting the libertarian philosophy. [ English translation ]
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and as a screensaver.)
http://www.isil.org/resources/philosophy...index.html

Multi-Media Formats: The Philosophy of Liberty is available in 6 different multimedia formats thanks to the excellent work of Drew Suder. Click here for details.
A DVD has also been produced and is now on sale at the ISIL Store.

For further information on the Philosophy of Liberty flash and The Adventures of Jonathan Gullible: A Free Market Odyssey go to The Jonathan Gullible Site

[hubbabubba]

Great animation and message!