Philosophy Of Liberty

[waxzy]

http://www.libertarian.to/images/animation...rty-english.swf

Pretty good

[deathstickboy]

Yup.:)

[OWN-the-NWO]

you should check out the constitution class taught by michael badnarik while you are at it, it's on Gvid

[Skinski7]

This is essential viewing and the thread ought to be stickied.

It is most important to understand these principles.

Frederick Bastiat's the Law is well worth reading for anyone who got anything out of this flash.


The Law
by Frederick Bastiat
http://www.constitution.org/law/bastiat.htm

[OWN-the-NWO]

Constitution Class

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...4978323622
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...7360952135
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...0848634400
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...4527237459
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...3152392910
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...5224839349
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...3322263421

[hardboiled11]

Quote:Constitution Class

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...4978323622
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...7360952135
3
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...0848634400
4
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...4527237459
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...3152392910
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...5224839349
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...3322263421

I neede a refreash on that, but who actually watched these besides me?

[imsoaznwashed]

have you guys ever really thought about the word liberty? one day when i was bored i thought about it for about 5 hours and i came to this conclusion. liberty is not a good thing. HEAR ME OUT. listen to the word. because it is not synonomous with freedom.

when a secretary picks up her telephone at her office and someone asks information about her boss, she replies with, "I am not at liberty to release that information."

Liberty is something a master gives his slave.

Liberty is the amount of feet that a dog can walk in the park when he has a leash around his neck.

:dazed:

[NewTrruthseeker]

Quote:have you guys ever really thought about the word liberty? one day when i was bored i thought about it for about 5 hours and i came to this conclusion. liberty is not a good thing. HEAR ME OUT. listen to the word. because it is not synonomous with freedom.

when a secretary picks up her telephone at her office and someone asks information about her boss, she replies with, "I am not at liberty to release that information."

Liberty is something a master gives his slave.

Liberty is the amount of feet that a dog can walk in the park when he has a leash around his neck.

:dazed:

I think you're right ;) Good thinking! Maybe this is something good to point out to the sheeple :)

[imsoaznwashed]

Quote:

Quote:have you guys ever really thought about the word liberty? one day when i was bored i thought about it for about 5 hours and i came to this conclusion. liberty is not a good thing. HEAR ME OUT. listen to the word. because it is not synonomous with freedom.

when a secretary picks up her telephone at her office and someone asks information about her boss, she replies with, "I am not at liberty to release that information."

Liberty is something a master gives his slave.

Liberty is the amount of feet that a dog can walk in the park when he has a leash around his neck.

:dazed:

I think you're right ;) Good thinking! Maybe this is something good to point out to the sheeple :)

thing is, most of the "awakened" people think that liberty is a good thing too! it's horrible. people need to understand that liberty is just the crumbs of the cake.

[NewTrruthseeker]

Quote:thing is, most of the "awakened" people think that liberty is a good thing too! it's horrible. people need to understand that liberty is just the crumbs of the cake

True

[Moriani]

Quote:This is essential viewing and the thread ought to be stickied.

It is most important to understand these principles.

Frederick Bastiat's the Law is well worth reading for anyone who got anything out of this flash.


The Law
by Frederick Bastiat
http://www.constitution.org/law/bastiat.htm

His thesis is flawed because it's premised on life being a gift from god.

[Moriani]

Quote:

Quote:have you guys ever really thought about the word liberty? one day when i was bored i thought about it for about 5 hours and i came to this conclusion. liberty is not a good thing. HEAR ME OUT. listen to the word. because it is not synonomous with freedom.

when a secretary picks up her telephone at her office and someone asks information about her boss, she replies with, "I am not at liberty to release that information."

Liberty is something a master gives his slave.

Liberty is the amount of feet that a dog can walk in the park when he has a leash around his neck.

:dazed:

I think you're right ;) Good thinking! Maybe this is something good to point out to the sheeple :)

Maybe it stems from the fact that people do not understand the difference between liberty, civil liberties and civil rights.

Liberty can never be granted, because it is inherent.

Civil liberties are protections from infringement by governments.

It is a mistake to read the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution and then claim that the government is granting those rights. The government is not granting them, rather the people are saying "these are our rights and the government may not infringe upon them."

[imsoaznwashed]

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:have you guys ever really thought about the word liberty? one day when i was bored i thought about it for about 5 hours and i came to this conclusion. liberty is not a good thing. HEAR ME OUT. listen to the word. because it is not synonomous with freedom.

when a secretary picks up her telephone at her office and someone asks information about her boss, she replies with, "I am not at liberty to release that information."

Liberty is something a master gives his slave.

Liberty is the amount of feet that a dog can walk in the park when he has a leash around his neck.

:dazed:

I think you're right ;) Good thinking! Maybe this is something good to point out to the sheeple :)

Maybe it stems from the fact that people do not understand the difference between liberty, civil liberties and civil rights.

Liberty can never be granted, because it is inherent.

Civil liberties are protections from infringement by governments.

It is a mistake to read the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution and then claim that the government is granting those rights. The government is not granting them, rather the people are saying "these are our rights and the government may not infringe upon them."

the funny thing is though, by any government stating that they are giving out those rights, they are naturally stating that they can take them away. right?

[harmonius]

Quote:have you guys ever really thought about the word liberty? one day when i was bored i thought about it for about 5 hours and i came to this conclusion. liberty is not a good thing. HEAR ME OUT. listen to the word. because it is not synonomous with freedom.

when a secretary picks up her telephone at her office and someone asks information about her boss, she replies with, "I am not at liberty to release that information."

Liberty is something a master gives his slave.

Liberty is the amount of feet that a dog can walk in the park when he has a leash around his neck.

:dazed:

I think the point may have been missed about Liberty.

Perhaps the the secretary is not a Liberty to say anything because she has used her Freedom/Liberty to CONTRACT with someone for a service that has been agreeable by both parties. If she or the person she has contracted with do not like the conditions of the contract they can leave at any time. Their agreement however may have stipulations for penalty(s) that arise from one person not performing those agreed upon duties stemming from negligence or lack of desire/will to complete. The only grounds for leaving an agreement before a contract is finished is due to Fraud, misrepresentation, or coercion being perpetrated upon one party or both parties on the other.

Another example is when people say that GW Bush is getting the troops killed. This is incorrect. The troops are getting themselves killed because they chose to accept the conditions of military service, or believe they must do what they are told by their commanders in all cases which is incorrect. I do understand that many people have little concept or education about some of these subjects in great detail, but I think all people are aware of the word NO. This word can be exercised anytime one feels like it. If force or coercion is being used to make any individual do what is against their own interest their recourse can range from violence to legal proceedings. ie: US declaration of independence and subsequent revolution.

This is why people must be aware of their freedom and liberty as well as their right to contract. If you agree to do something yet do not understand the contract being presented you should say no. Otherwise you are a fool and deserve what you get. Your life is in you hands.

IMO the knowledge of our inherent rights is more important than all religion, sciences and politics combined.

Get acquainted with Contract Law, Tort Law, Criminal Law, Civil Law, Common Law and Military/Admiralty Law.


MMM

[resonate]

Quote:have you guys ever really thought about the word liberty? one day when i was bored i thought about it for about 5 hours and i came to this conclusion. liberty is not a good thing. HEAR ME OUT. listen to the word. because it is not synonomous with freedom.

when a secretary picks up her telephone at her office and someone asks information about her boss, she replies with, "I am not at liberty to release that information."

Liberty is something a master gives his slave.

Liberty is the amount of feet that a dog can walk in the park when he has a leash around his neck.

:dazed:

I agree.

Rather than typing out my thoughts again here, I'll just copy paste the same things I said in Zionism and Worshipping symbols thread.


Standvast asked:

Quote:Does Y'shua equate to "God the father" , or was he a mere man who
attained [through whatever method] the conceptual notion that God is in all ?

I think it is important to know what each of us includes in "äll", in that question.
All humans?
or
All life?

If everthing isn't included in "all" , then you would need to take liberty over anything that you don't include in "all"... -----> an authority is created. Authority then deals out Liberty (now capitalized) to you, to take something which is not of you. If you feel like all life is included in "äll", you are taking from, and giving back to yourself.

The former has the potential to destroy everything that they don't feel they are a part of, using Liberty granted by created authority. The latter maintains to be respectful to everything that is.


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All of our money (our energy) pays for bombs, chips, jails, HAARPs, and the electricity to run it all..... all of the things conspiracy theories talk about, it's all us. It seems that all of our problems are being blamed on "them", when it is we who keep them in business.

Do we want to stop them in their tracks physically, or just talk about it?

The names of the "Bad guys" have been changing for 1000s of years. New ones are hired, and old ones replaced (like managers). What does that tell us?... They are running a store that is selling us Liberty, and we keep buying it. The more Liberty we buy, the more the Authority grows.

Are people counting on their Nations to do something about it? They can't, Nations are like a chain of stores that sell the Liberty. What do stores need to stay in business? ..... customers.

By the fact that we are born as sovereign beings on this planet, we do not require Liberty. True sovereignty is not just in the mind but also physically. Granted-Liberty undermines true sovereignty.