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deathstickboy · 09-18-2006, 01:39 AM

Yes I believe in absolutes.

bubbazan68 · 09-18-2006, 01:41 AM

then from where do we get the idea of them if there is NO god?

deathstickboy · 09-18-2006, 01:50 AM

I didn't say "there is NO god" but in light of this concept which i am much inline with:

Quote:Pantheism (Greek: πάν ( 'pan' ) = all and Theos = God) literally means "God is All" and "All is God". It is the view that everything is of an all-encompassing immanent God; or that the universe, or nature, and God are equivalent. More detailed definitions tend to emphasize the idea that natural law, existence, and the universe (the sum total of all that is, was, and shall be) is represented or personified in the theological principle of 'God'.

I would say that they are inherent to our nature. In otherwords, are goodness is just as inherent as our "sinfulness" its only a matter of consioussly distinguishing between the two. Anything that hurts others, or causes great harm to ourself, is "sinful". Infact, I would say that in harming others, you do harm yourself, weather you know it or not...

bubbazan68 · 09-19-2006, 05:22 AM

so you are a Gnostic then?

deathstickboy · (This post was last modified: 09-19-2006 05:33 AM by deathstickboy.)

Quote:so you are a Gnostic then?

No.
Unless you mean in the purest sense of the word:

Quote:The term gnosis is a Greek word expressing a type of understanding or consciousness gained through personal experience.

But other than in that strict definition, I would not call myself a gnostic.