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09-18-2006, 08:03 AM
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Okey, some of you may think i am crazy, but if you look at the details, you not think i am out of my head.
I have noticed a similarity to teh Star Wars saga and what is really going on in the world. here are my theories.

Star wars: Senator Palpatine (Darth Sidius) Get's other federations on his side with out the Republic knowing about it.

U.S.A: CIA trains, arms and finance's osama bin ladin, Help Sadamm husien before the invasion with out public knowledge.


Star Wars: Palpitine gets these federations to make war with naboo. while doing this, telling the republic, that the only way out of this is to give him sole power of the Republic. at the same time as darth sidius, is promising these brainwashed federations that they will have piece and will rule with him.

U.S.A: America use's scare tactics by causing 9/11. they get bin ladin to attack in afganistan and african american embassies. The US also get's sadaam to invader kuwait to make an excuse to invade sadaam.


Star Wars: Once Palpitines implicate the Jedi's in a plot to take over the senate, he get's all of the republic to agree on a galatic empire with him as it's leader. he then kills all of the Jedi's and kill's those federation that helped him, so that there is no ties to him and also so that he can lead by himself.

U.S.A: After the raid of Iraq, america knew sadaam would blow the whistle on what they did. Get sadaam to invade kuwait while all of the long ploting agaisnt him. Soon after Bush sr left office, Bush jr came into office and needed an immediate excuse to invade iraq. hence 9/11. after the arrest of sadaam to keep him quiet and lie to us through the media, they occupied iraq and used Osama as an exscape goat. In the end to bring about the one world goverment that Bush Sr. has always talked about.


Summary:

Use secret allies to cause war and fear, make your country the hero, scare the populace to surrender their freedom for safty and elect One Person or Goverment to Run the world.

Do some research if you think I am crazy.

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09-18-2006, 08:25 AM
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Check out Art Imitates Reality: Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

Here is a better one... Darth Vader and the New World Order
Quote:While premiering his film, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith, at the Cannes Film Festival George Lucas was asked if his new film was a social commentary on George Bush and the Iraq invasion (which even our own government admits is part of America's new "kindly, helpful and loving" imperialism).

How can they not ask this when Darth Vader says to his former teacher Obi-Wan Kenobi, "if you're not with me, then you're my enemy." Remember that Lord Bush, after the 9/11 attacks said, "either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

Lucas responded to the reporters by saying that the original Star Wars was developed in the early post-Veitnam War era shortly after Richard Nixon left office amidst a byzantine scandal.

He continued by saying, "The issue was, how does a democracy turn itself into a dictatorship...When I wrote it, Iraq (the U.S.-led war) didn't exist.. but the parallels of what we did in Vietnam and Iraq are un believable ...I didn't think it was going to get this close."

Speaking about present day America he said, "I hope this doesn't come true in our country."


There are some other good references by AJ, but his websites are such complete shit it's hardly worth the effort of navigation to find them unfortunately. At one point he likens Count Dooku to Bin Laden, however I disagree and think we're only part way into it and George Bush will actually end up taking the Dooku role and some as yet unseen player who "saves" us from him will end up being the supreme bad guy. Of course that's only my opinion ... and one I formed quite a long while back at that (havn't pondered this line in ages).

Some rumors are around that Lucas himself is a 33rd degree freemason... I always wondered though if he might be a fallen mason and was somehow using the movies to warn us somehow. The character Yoda is right out of freemasonry... looking and acting nearly exactly as he does in the movies.

There is some other star wars NWO related connections out there... one in particular... if I remember correctly is some JahTruth horseshit... you'll know it when you whif it, trust me.

Cheers.

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09-18-2006, 10:18 AM
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What these people forget (or perhaps don't know) is that George Lucas is an arch-plagiarist. He has constantly taken ideas from other films (and events) and woven them into his Star Wars movies. He copied the Death Star attack from Episode IV from the movie Dambusters, 633 Squadron and footage from WW2 fighter planes. He copied the medal ceremony at the end of Episode IV from Riefenstahl's Triumph Of The Will. He copies the name Tatooine from the place in Tunisia where they filmed the desert sequences (Tataouine). The opening title sequence is taken from the movie series The Phantom Creeps. Luke Skywalkers return to the devastated farm is right out of The Searchers. Lucas even modelled Chewbacca on his own dog!!! By your reasoning Akira Kurosawa, whose film Kakushi Toride No San Akunin (Hidden Fortress) is blatantly ripped off by Lucas, has some sort of predictive powers or some connection to the so-called Illuminati or Freemasonry. Which as I'm sure you'd agree is lunacy!!:LOL:

The Infowars articles regarding this subject don't stand up to any scrutiny and neither does your specious theory.:rolleyes:
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09-18-2006, 01:48 PM
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i don’t think it matters that he’s biting off of other peoples ideas! It’s the point that Lucas understood maybe what others were also warning us....and he jumped on the didactic message in his own work....

look at his THX 1138....that was like his college film...mason or not....IMHO he understands and knows what’s going on, and has for a long time!

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09-18-2006, 02:01 PM
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but imo...anyone that knows and doesn't come out, is a big HURT on the truth movement.
he has no excuses for not doing so...he should make a REAL fucking movie about it.
or at least come out and say what he has learned...its not like he won't be heard.

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09-19-2006, 05:43 PM
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Hello seven,here is something to read up on what you was on about

http://jahtruth.net/starwar.htm

http://jahtruth.net/darth.htm

http://jahtruth.net/yodas.htm

Check those out and tell me what you think
or any one else for that matter. Ta

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09-20-2006, 09:39 AM
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Quote:Hello seven,here is something to read up on what you was on about

http://jahtruth.net/starwar.htm

http://jahtruth.net/darth.htm

http://jahtruth.net/yodas.htm

Check those out and tell me what you think
or any one else for that matter. Ta

Amazing !!!!!

Those links are to a load of crappy ideas too:rolleyes:. Total quasi-religious bullshit!!!!:LOL::LOL::LOL:

If anyone believes that nonsense they are mentally ill:ph34r:
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09-20-2006, 09:50 AM
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Quote:
Quote:Hello seven,here is something to read up on what you was on about

http://jahtruth.net/starwar.htm

http://jahtruth.net/darth.htm

http://jahtruth.net/yodas.htm

Check those out and tell me what you think
or any one else for that matter. Ta

Amazing !!!!!

Those links are to a load of crappy ideas too:rolleyes:. Total quasi-religious bullshit!!!!:LOL::LOL::LOL:

If anyone believes that nonsense they are mentally ill:ph34r:

Thank you soop, for being a voice or reason in a crazy world.
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09-20-2006, 12:11 PM (This post was last modified: 09-20-2006 12:15 PM by freeon.)
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Quote:What these people forget (or perhaps don't know) is that George Lucas is an arch-plagiarist. He has constantly taken ideas from other films (and events) and woven them into his Star Wars movies. He copied the Death Star attack from Episode IV from the movie Dambusters, 633 Squadron and footage from WW2 fighter planes. He copied the medal ceremony at the end of Episode IV from Riefenstahl's Triumph Of The Will. He copies the name Tatooine from the place in Tunisia where they filmed the desert sequences (Tataouine). The opening title sequence is taken from the movie series The Phantom Creeps. Luke Skywalkers return to the devastated farm is right out of The Searchers. Lucas even modelled Chewbacca on his own dog!!! By your reasoning Akira Kurosawa, whose film Kakushi Toride No San Akunin (Hidden Fortress) is blatantly ripped off by Lucas, has some sort of predictive powers or some connection to the so-called Illuminati or Freemasonry. Which as I'm sure you'd agree is lunacy!!:LOL:
How is it plagarism to model a character after your own dog? (and I'm not saying that is even true.)

Or how is it plagarism to name a desert planet after the desert area where the filming took place? That sounds more like a tribute than a theft.

I haven't seen any of these movies you reference but judging by the above two examples I don't give your information much credibility.

Star Wars is a lesson in good and evil, love and hate, generosity and greed. It is a message of hope for those who listen.

&Having raised the earth's temperature 1 degree Fahrenheit in the last three decades, we're facing another increase of 4 degrees over the next century. That would imply changes that constitute practically a different planet. It's not something we can adapt to. We can't let it go on another 10 years like this.& - NASA's Goddard Space Institute Director James Hansen

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09-22-2006, 03:01 AM
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Quote:i don’t think it matters that he’s biting off of other peoples ideas! It’s the point that Lucas understood maybe what others were also warning us....and he jumped on the didactic message in his own work....

Yup - there is no thing as "original" when dealing with myth and metaphor.

Quote:look at his THX 1138....that was like his college film...mason or not....IMHO he understands and knows what’s going on, and has for a long time!

Good film!

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09-22-2006, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Quote:What these people forget (or perhaps don't know) is that George Lucas is an arch-plagiarist. He has constantly taken ideas from other films (and events) and woven them into his Star Wars movies. He copied the Death Star attack from Episode IV from the movie Dambusters, 633 Squadron and footage from WW2 fighter planes. He copied the medal ceremony at the end of Episode IV from Riefenstahl's Triumph Of The Will. He copies the name Tatooine from the place in Tunisia where they filmed the desert sequences (Tataouine). The opening title sequence is taken from the movie series The Phantom Creeps. Luke Skywalkers return to the devastated farm is right out of The Searchers. Lucas even modelled Chewbacca on his own dog!!! By your reasoning Akira Kurosawa, whose film Kakushi Toride No San Akunin (Hidden Fortress) is blatantly ripped off by Lucas, has some sort of predictive powers or some connection to the so-called Illuminati or Freemasonry. Which as I'm sure you'd agree is lunacy!!:LOL:
How is it plagarism to model a character after your own dog? (and I'm not saying that is even true.)

Or how is it plagarism to name a desert planet after the desert area where the filming took place? That sounds more like a tribute than a theft.

I haven't seen any of these movies you reference but judging by the above two examples I don't give your information much credibility.

Star Wars is a lesson in good and evil, love and hate, generosity and greed. It is a message of hope for those who listen.

Why not try watching the films he plagiarises?? Then maybe you can have an informed opinion!!:rolleyes:

From Chambers Dictionary:

Plagiarise verb (plagiarised, plagiarising) tr & intr to copy (ideas, passages of text, etc) from someone else's work and use them as if they were one's own.

George Lucas is a plagiarist - end of discussion.:LOL:
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09-22-2006, 12:42 PM
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Quote:Why not try watching the films he plagiarises?? Then maybe you can have an informed opinion!!:rolleyes:

From Chambers Dictionary:

Plagiarise verb (plagiarised, plagiarising) tr & intr to copy (ideas, passages of text, etc) from someone else's work and use them as if they were one's own.

George Lucas is a plagiarist - end of discussion.:LOL:

As I said, judging by some of your claims of plagarism I find it hard to give any of your examples credibility. Since the definition of plagarism isn't in question, and since stating something is so doesn't actually make it so, I contend that the Star Wars films are a contribution of good rather than 99% of films which serve no purpose but to "dumb down".

&Having raised the earth's temperature 1 degree Fahrenheit in the last three decades, we're facing another increase of 4 degrees over the next century. That would imply changes that constitute practically a different planet. It's not something we can adapt to. We can't let it go on another 10 years like this.& - NASA's Goddard Space Institute Director James Hansen

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09-22-2006, 06:23 PM (This post was last modified: 09-22-2006 06:28 PM by Keen.)
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Personally, I think his prequel films are pretty cheesy and not with Star Wars canon (I'm a fan of the original trilogy, as the acting was way better). In fact he stated Episode III was the worst film yet. :LOL:

Anyways, Episode III (and the ones before) basically represents our current times and Lucas did that on purpose. The original trilogy is a retelling (or warning) of imperialist history and the constant struggle between good and evil. Lucas also used the chinese concept and belief of "ch'i" in which life force exists in everything (hence "the force").

&Yesterday We Obeyed Kings And Bent Our Necks To Emperors. Today We Kneel Only To Truth.& - Kahlil Gibran
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09-22-2006, 06:39 PM
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Quote:Personally, I think his prequel films are pretty cheesy and not with Star Wars canon (I'm a fan of the original trilogy, as the acting was way better). In fact he stated Episode III was the worst film yet. :LOL:

Anyways, Episode III (and the ones before) basically represents our current times and Lucas did that on purpose. The original trilogy is a retelling (or warning) of imperialist history and the constant struggle between good and evil. Lucas also used the chinese concept and belief of "ch'i" in which life force exists in everything (hence "the force").


I fell asleep in the Phantom Menace... no idea where that comes in the series list - i was 6 when star wars I came out.

Ewan Mcgregor was shite in that and good in trainspotting.

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09-22-2006, 07:02 PM
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The Star Wars films are a vehicle to indoctrinate the youth into the base philosophy of the Mystery Schools thus ensuring they will accept the new world order spirituality which is being incrementally revealed to the world.

Star Wars is a retelling of the solar myth of the birth, death and resurrection of the sun retold. Luke Skywalker is a personification of the Sun (Horus).

Luke is born of a virgin, becomes lost as to his true identity, joins an esoteric order and through conquering fear and superstition (ie. the dark side) becomes reborn as an Adept of the Mysteries.

George Lucas is no doubt a very highly degreed priest of Mystery and his Star Wars saga is his contribution to the completion of the Great Work.






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