Do You Reallly Own Anything Except Toilet Paper?

[waxzy]

Do You Reallly Own
Anything Except Toilet Paper?
By Ted Twietmeyer
tedtw@frontiernet.net
9-27-6

This is a subject not unlike the chicken-egg story. What exactly IS "ownership?" We'll look past the obvious fiat currency (Federal Reserve Notes) everyone carries in their pocket. But before we really delve into this subject, let's see what the "mainstream" thinking is about this word. After all, everything you have from the chair you're sitting on to the computer you're reading this with, to the roof over your head - all hinges on the *perceived* security of ownership. Even renting may be perceived as a form of ownership. While you're the tenant you have control of an apartment or house and you define who can come and go, who can stay with you, etc... until your lease expires. The past five years have seen new restrictions and laws quietly placed on renters and property owners.

The Merriam-Webster's dictionary definition of "ownership" with just one small sentence: "the state, relation, or fact of being an owner." [1] Isn't that a real fountain of information to answer our question!

However, Britannica does a far better job of defining "ownership:"
"the legal relation between a person (individual, group, corporation, or government) and an object. The object may be corporeal, such as furniture, or completely the creature of law, such as a patent, copyright, or annuity; it may be movable, such as an animal, or immovable, such as land. Because the objects of property and the protected relations are different in every culture and vary according to law, custom, and economic system and the relative social status of those who enjoy its privileges, it is difficult to find a least common denominator of "ownership." Ownership of property probably means at a minimum that one's government or society will help to exclude others from the use or enjoyment of one's possession without one's consent, which may be withheld except at a price." [2]

Now we have something more definitive to look at. It describes a "legal relationship" between a person and an object which can be anything like an intangible or non-physical asset such as a patent or intellectual property, to having real estate. It's interesting the phrase "creature of law," which seems to imply law has a life of it's own. But for ownership, it is the law that defines what you are and are not allowed to own. Some things come and go in popularity. For example, ammonium nitrate isn't a material anyone should brag about owning. A large volume of it can bring on a storm trooper visit from the men in the black suits. The last phrase indicates that ownership isn't a certainty, by stating that "probably" the government or society will defend your right to ownership by excluding use by others. Certainly no one can own the simple right to privacy anymore. That wasn't just recently taken away, but it happened decades ago. The government is just now getting around to let you know this, and how good it is for you.

What's quite fascinating about all this is how money makes it possible to do illegal acts - legally! For example, going fishing or hunt without a license. Sooner or later a you'll hear a voice behind you in the woods saying, "Game warden - let me see your license." Having a license for anything - whether it be driving a car, hunting, fishing, boating or many other activities will make that illegal act OK! Makes perfect sense, right? So what does this have to do with ownership? Actually, quite a bit. Because the common denominator for both licenses AND owning anything is the use of money to pay for all licenses. No other means of payment will be accepted. And that money of course, is the infamous Federal Reserve Note. Remember that although the note states "legal tender for all debts..." it absolutely doesn't mean that anyone else can pay a debt in full simply by handing someone a note. A "note" implies debt. Period. The privately run "Federal Reserve" has illegally been given the right to do this against Constitutional law, which has created this defacto standard way of creating money out of nothing more than rags, special paper and thin air.

But wait a minute - those notes you use to pay for everything you "own" are worthless. What then? This is where is gets even more interesting. The entire American economic system (and probably those of other countries even though not publicly stated) are based on NOTES. These glorified "IOUs" are backed by absolutely nothing tangible. The note trick is nothing new - the Knights Templar hundreds of years ago started this by issuing notes to travelers. At the start of a long journey, travelers went to a local Templar and in return for giving him all their cash, he issued the traveler a note and provided protection where needed during the trip. At the end of the journey the traveler cashed it and got their money back, minus a fee. This was the first version of a traveler's check! If somehow the traveler was robbed on the highway, he/she would have no money to lose. The Templar note would be useless to anyone else. Today we're still using notes - but with a big difference. We CANNOT cash them in for real money! If you walk into any bank and ask a teller to give you change or real money for a "legal tender" $100.00 bill, you'll be handed more fake notes in exchange for your fake note! The same is true for checks, too. You cannot cash anything in no matter what, since notes are used to pay for notes. You can use the notes to buy gold, but gold is no longer considered legal tender to pay debts. You'll have to convert the gold back into a useless note to use it!

One doesn't have to be an economic wizard like Joseph Stiglitz to see the giant house of cards this scheme represents.

Now let's assume that somehow you could obtain REAL currency. Some think the Euro dollar is real money, since it's "supposedly" backed by gold. But to date, there have been no photos of the skyscraper-sized pile of gold this would require to back all the Euro currency in the world for all of Europe. Someone right now is yelling "you idiot, the gold is scattered all over the world in banks and vaults!" Yes, that MAY be true. So I say, show me ONE big gold pile shrink wrapped in plastic with a sign on it "Reserved for Backing the Euro - cannot be sold or traded."

Personally, I think the Euro is just another *note* without real backing, just like the US dollar is. The Europeans are simply not telling anyone about it, or perhaps are lying. Of course, in today's mindset people think only the US government will lie and no other governments will (except dictatorships.) There was a highly successful business organization better known as the Knights Templar, which grew in wealth to back the Holy See and monarchies of Europe. Can we believe that this highly profitable organization became extinct? After a just a few years in business proving travelers an important service, these men were perceived as threatening and too powerful. Eventually Philip the Fourth attempted to exterminate them.[3] Many historians believe they just went underground. After almost 1,000 years, now they may be running the entire planet's currency - keeping it based on notes.

So let's forget the Euro dollar and think bigger by using real GOLD to pay debts. If you could get the bank to accept gold (and not notes which is the only "legal tender" today) can you really own your home free and clear, and live there for free the rest of your life? No. There are the endless taxes "levied" every year on your home. These are really just rent to allow you to live there, even if you own it free and clear. One can also look at it as a form of RENT paid to the state. You can own your home AND the land it sits on free and clear of any mortgage - but you still must pay yearly taxes (i.e. rent) forever.

There's no way to call a house moving company and remove the actual "land" (i.e., the top 10ft. of soil) and the land that your home is actually attached to, separating it from the dirt below. Of course, you could move just the home itself. But that will cost you at least $20,000+ to move it a few feet or hundreds of feet. But now what? You'll have to move that house down the road - to yet ANOTHER piece of land for which you will have to pay taxes (i.e., rent.) This will accomplish nothing.

You may own an automobile like millions do. But you need a registration to drive it! And a state inspection sticker, too. (Really just another license.) And to drive? You'll need a license for that, too. It's completely illegal to drive anything on the road, but buying a license (and filling out endless forms) makes it legal for awhile until it expires. Therefore, you actually need at least three licenses just to drive the car you "own" down the road. In fact, you just might end up paying more concealed rent - disguised as a fee at a toll booth.

OK, let's forget about trying to own or rent a home. Do what the late Chris Farley screamed at the rebellious children in a famous SNL skit - "you're gonna be livin' on a steady diet of government cheese, in a van .....down by the river!" What if you did live down by the river? You'll still have to buy soap to wash your clothes on the rocks and purchase toilet paper. Leaves will make you chaff in no time when fall comes. You'll need monopoly fiat notes to pay for that river life - including the toilet paper.

Although everything is now purchased using worthless notes - the principal still exists that you can never actually be debt-free until you settle up for ALL the notes you ever used in your life to buy things with. That's the principal behind debt forgiveness with NESARA.[4] Paying off all these notes in your pocket with real money is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to accomplish. There is no known form of payment that the Federal Reserve will take for these notes. Why? Simply because they were worthless to begin with, and taking payment for them would make the Federal Reserve guilty of fraud. Every bank loan is fake "money" created out of thin air when the document is signed by a bank officer.

So what's the bottom line? It doesn't matter whether you work at a job or receive investment or interest income to live on. You still receive a fiat note when you cash in your checks, make a withdrawal or receive a direct deposit. But about that employer or investment house who just paid you? They owe for their notes just like you do! So you are paid with worthless paper since none of it can ever be paid off. This is why at the beginning of this article I called this the chicken-egg syndrome. President Kennedy wanted to stop this madness - and he was quickly rewarded with lead poisoning.

BEYOND NOTES

But we're not done yet. Think about what ownership really is...and what it REALLY means outside of the note problem. At one time there was a payment system that worked well for centuries. People exchanged something valuable for something they needed to have. You cannot really OWN anything forever even if its paid for - because when you die everything stays behind. And then a relative or friend takes possession of it until they die or give it away, too. (Now you know the secret of yard sales - junk passing from one yard sale to another. Just like the dreaded fruit cake showing up at Christmas time.) The one thing you own and we all have used is toilet paper. A single-use item no one wants to take home. You can be certain that after you die your possessions will be picked through by teary-eyed vulture-relatives. But if a substantial amount of toilet paper is still on a roll, at least one enterprising person will take that unused roll home with them. It might even "surface" at their next yard sale. Then it can be sold (using yet another note) to someone else.

In the final analysis, everything you own can be considered as simply borrowed. Whether you own it or not, that doesn't matter. The same is true of any item like a car, furniture or computer, regardless of how many payments you made. If you die before the lease term is up, then the item must go back to the store. And all those payments you made all your life by paying for notes with notes? The bottom line is that it was all for nothing. Ownership truly is simply a disguised rental.

You can move to Africa or South America, and live in the jungle to try and escape it the problem. But that won't work either, as in most tribes no one really owns anything - and everything must be shared. Did you say you are going down there and you are MARRIED? Oh, I am sorry to hear that! You might want to re-think that decision and consider the implications of sharing your spouse with others.

Perhaps it's far better to simply not to be a materialist in the first place...

Ted Twietmeyer
http://www.bookonmars.info

[1] http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary
[2] http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9057809/ownership
[3] http://www.templarhistory.com/history.html
http://www.knightstemplar.org/
[4] http://www.nesara.us/pages/home.html
(The NESARA website is frequently attacked and may go offline from time to time)

[devkoo]

Its right that by law we own nothing , But who cares its their law not ours , if you stop obeying them your completely free and ofcourse in for a hell of a fight.

I have nothing against taxes, The onely thing is that they should be used for the thing`s they where inteded for.
You pay taxes to use the roads , and if onley the where used to keep the road in good condition i have nothing against it.

But they are going to far in taxing everything , the next thing is to tax a fart because it a possibility that it will heat up the earth:)

I atleast dont give ashit about what their papers says who own what, because they wheren`t owner of it in the first place. (talking about land)

[stillsearching]

Quote:Do You Reallly Own
Anything Except Toilet Paper?


In the final analysis, everything you own can be considered as simply borrowed. Whether you own it or not, that doesn't matter. The same is true of any item like a car, furniture or computer, regardless of how many payments you made. If you die before the lease term is up, then the item must go back to the store. And all those payments you made all your life by paying for notes with notes? The bottom line is that it was all for nothing. Ownership truly is simply a disguised rental.

Let's look at that again Ownership truly is simply a disguised rental.

And while the masses chase the dream of owning more stuff, they unwittingly enslave themselves.
I'm not talking about mammon, I'm talking about voluntary slavery which is proving to be a very effective control mechanism.

[waxzy]

yep

slaves to hoarding crap

[DoKtAhMaDiZmS]

I cant quite remember what the title of the documentary is called
but it is by Jordan Maxwell and he goes very deep in to the owning
side of things from the start , from when you are first born you recieve
a birth certificate indicating that you are owned basically by the system.
I would really like some one to get back to me on this as I want to see
that documentary again , then perhaps post here what the man is talking
about.

[standvast]

Quote:I cant quite remember what the title of the documentary is called
but it is by Jordan Maxwell and he goes very deep in to the owning
side of things from the start , from when you are first born you recieve
a birth certificate indicating that you are owned basically by the system.

I have a 2 part lecture/interview by Laura Lee in which jordan Maxwell
explains the basics about why/how humans became a resource under [international] Maritime Admiralty Law.
i thought it to be a clear introduction to how the concept works, but grasping the depths of the
created predicament he adresses will require plenty of reading, as i'm still doing,
but only at a limp-legged turtle's pace lately.. [music drives me timeless]

I'm uppin the first part to rapidshare as i write this, i'll add it in when it's done.*edit ;it's done.

mp3 format/medium quality, well audible and interresting.
Jordan Maxwell /Laura Lee part 1]

J Maxwell laura Lee on maritime admiralty law

Jordan Maxwell / Laura Lee part 2]

J Maxwell Laura Lee on maritime admiralty law


peace'
standvast.

[Shinobi]

Thats cool standvast thanks man

[stillsearching]

@TheSouthMan google vid Jordan Maxwell/Jason Whitney *the occult world of commerce* has some of the stuff you mention

[DoKtAhMaDiZmS]

Thanks stillsearching I located what I was looking for within both
"The Naked Truth" & "Matrix Of Power" by Jordan Maxwell
I highly recommend any one to check out those two documentaries
cheers for the heads up on Jordan Maxwell/Jason Whitney
I have probably seen or heard that before, will look again though, thanks:)

[al_uh_looyah]

that was a great article, I really enjoyed it. The concept of ownership has long intrigued me. In fact, I lived in an intentional community w/ one of the main social contracts being that contracts and ownership were illusory. I'm glad the author included the sexual politics of "owning" a spouse and the issue of monogamy, cuz thats the direct result of questioning ownership.

I uploaded the book that the community I lived in was based on, here:
http://uads.org/u/looyah/BookOfMother.pdf it can also be found on the tracker.
If you liked that article, you'll probably find value in the above Ebook entitled "Book of the Mother"

[stillsearching]

@al uh looyah thanks for the book, I'd seen it on the tracker, but just grabbed it from your ul. Might have some questions for you later

[2d06z]

This is the first post I've read about NESARA and 9/11 on here. Considering the large role that the our fiat currency played in this whole role, I am surprised not more has been mentioned about this topic.

While I realize there is alot of BS flowing from the internet about this policy, I do believe that THE GLOBAL economy and monetary system has the biggest hand in 9/11. If it is the pop trade in afy or the swendling on the stocks with enron (and MANY others, mci comes to mind)... this was the target, and i believe they destroyed large amounts of evidence that some "good" people had gathered against these criminals.

[2d06z]

Quote:You pay taxes to use the roads , and if onley the where used to keep the road in good condition i havlle nothing against it.

It is really beneficial to get to visit many different areas and just experience how different things really are from your own home... now - saying this, i have been exposed to one of the biggest frauds invented... toll roads, i have always been told that a certain amount of gas tax goes to the road infastructure. So tell me what is the tolls going to, I use to think the 3/4 dollar toll was hefty to cross a bridge. Now I dont even question it - its cheap.

I am now in an area that has the highest nationwide avg for gas, and still paying these extreme tolls... My point; not just taxes to keep the roads, tolls now too.

[salmondine]

Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are
official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt
entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth
hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a
coroner's report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has
been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1,
Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and
insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint
Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause
dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official
capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and
Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal
Government exists today in name only.


The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International
Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International
Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now
operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers.
With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the
receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the
United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an
established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This
act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office
of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International
Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part:
"The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing
the United States."

Original Site Here----> http://www.apfn.net/DOC-100_bankruptcy.htm

[cred]

Quote:Thanks stillsearching I located what I was looking for within both
"The Naked Truth" & "Matrix Of Power" by Jordan Maxwell
I highly recommend any one to check out those two documentaries
cheers for the heads up on Jordan Maxwell/Jason Whitney
I have probably seen or heard that before, will look again though, thanks:)

On "Matrix Of Power" they refer to a book called "Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution" by Anthony C. Sutton when talking about who financed Stalin and Hitler. The book can be found for free in HTML format in here.