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Thracian · 11-28-2006, 08:35 AM

Quote:Stalin killed 10 fold the ammount of people that Hitler did. My question is if our education system has to teach children about the holocaust then why dont they also teach them about what happened in Russia.

Because, my friend, Russia is a huge country. And very rich!
Because Stalin was supported by USA and west Europe.
Why nobody speak about American native Indian, and how many was killed by 'white brothers'?
Or how many Indian was killed by English in India?
How many native people were killed by French in Africa?
Why nobody discuss how many Armenian was killed by Turkish in the begging of 20th century? More than 2 Mi!

There is no doubt for me that Holocaust is real and very disaster.
But question for me is WHY?
It doesnt matter how many ware killed, 3, 4 or 6 Mi.
Question is why.
I can hate gypsies or Slavic or Australian for example, but I never gona try to eliminate that race even if I am ruler of the biggest and mighty country.

tsoldrin · 11-28-2006, 01:08 PM

It is my firm belief that the core people behind this Zionist agenda will not be satisfied until all Arabs are destroyed. For a time they may, because of popular opinion, settle for complete pacification, but really the objective is obvious: obliteration. In fact I think the long term plan leaves no space for any non Jewish people... of course that's generations down the line and we don't have to worry about it now... do we?

11-28-2006, 03:37 PM

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Quote:I don't think there can be a doubt that jews were persecuted, tortured and killed in Nazi germany, it just how many and how this was committed, thats up for question,

Who cares? Are Jews special or something? Are they they new master race? How many gentiles died on the road to liberating the camps?

No, they're not. And I understand your frustration, trust me. I can't fucking stand how the holocuast is being used to blackmail the West into supporting the Zionist death machine in Palestine. But I don't see why we should be pissed at an entire people (any more than any other, since they're all groups are majority sheeple).

Where the heck did I suggest "we should be pissed at an entire people" ?

That's 1/2 the problem with holocaust revisionism right there, namely, jumping to conclusions by reading between the lines.

shZ · 11-28-2006, 03:54 PM

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Quote:I don't think there can be a doubt that jews were persecuted, tortured and killed in Nazi germany, it just how many and how this was committed, thats up for question,

Who cares? Are Jews special or something? Are they they new master race? How many gentiles died on the road to liberating the camps?

No, they're not. And I understand your frustration, trust me. I can't fucking stand how the holocuast is being used to blackmail the West into supporting the Zionist death machine in Palestine. But I don't see why we should be pissed at an entire people (any more than any other, since they're all groups are majority sheeple).

Where the heck did I suggest "we should be pissed at an entire people" ?

That's 1/2 the problem with holocaust revisionism right there, namely, jumping to conclusions by reading between the lines.

My bad. I didn't mean to. You're right about that though, it's almost like a conditioned response that popped out for no good reason. :sad: Sorry, I'm such a dumbass. I wasn't trying to accuse you of anything, eventhough it probably came across that way. I'll :zipit:with stupid comments like that in the future.

11-28-2006, 04:18 PM

It's okay, don't feel bad. I remember a long time ago calling somebody in a+'s (aka bettendorf) DC++ hub that he was racist nazi prick because he was trying to convince me to download what I considered to be neo-nazi anti-holocaust hate propaganda.

In reality he was asking me to download and watch the Auschwitz film by David Cole. I did end up watching it with an open mind, visited codoh, learned more and here I am today. 100% opposite.

I can understand the kneejerk reaction though. The ZJ's brainwashed us well.

Ognir · 11-28-2006, 10:36 PM

lol ctrl nailed it
these guys are nothing special
14m of 6.5b
wtf is with that ?

ephilution · 12-01-2006, 01:29 PM

Quote:Stalin killed 10 fold the ammount of people that Hitler did. My question is if our education system has to teach children about the holocaust then why dont they also teach them about what happened in Russia.

Even this big Russian butcher bear pales in comparision to the mega-monster called Mao Tse Tung.

By the way folks, here's the definition of the word Holocaust (from Wikipedia):

The term holocaust originally derived from the Greek word holokauston (ολοκαυστον), meaning a "completely (holos) <span style="color:#FFFF00">burnt (kaustos)"<span style="color:#FFFF00"> sacrificial offering to a god. Since the late 19th century, "holocaust" has primarily been used to refer to disasters or catastrophes. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the word was first used to describe Hitler's treatment of the Jews from as early as 1942, though it did not become a standard reference until the 1950s. By the late 1970s, however, the conventional meaning of the word became the Nazi genocide. The term is also used by many in a narrower sense, to refer specifically to the unprecedented destruction of European Jews in particular. Some historians credited Elie Wiesel with giving the term 'Holocaust' its present meaning. The biblical word Shoa (שואה), also spelled Shoah and Sho'ah, meaning "calamity" in Hebrew, became the standard Hebrew term for the Holocaust as early as the early 1940s.[3] Shoa is preferred by many Jews and a growing number of others for a number of reasons, including the potentially theologically offensive nature of the original meaning of the word holocaust.

If it were Jews who proposed to refer to the Jews' persecution by the Nazis with the term Holocaust then this is something to think about. Even if they didn't, then perhaps it was made to look like they did anyway in order to perhaps further demonize them. So what did the Jews gain from WWII that was perhaps worthy a blood-sacrifice in their eyes?

winston smith · 12-01-2006, 07:10 PM

Quote:Hi guys,
Probably you know that jewish are mainly 2 clans- Ashkenazi and Sephardi.
Try to guess which one was holocausted and why:)
Cheers!

THIS makes sense to me .
Could you please elaborate a bit ?

to those claiming it didn't happen : what drugs are you on ?
or did the Alien lizards beam them up , and that's why MILLIONS of Jews DISAPPEARED ?

***Shinobi*** · 12-01-2006, 10:14 PM

Lol @ last line

Mack · 12-02-2006, 12:21 AM

To me believing in the holocaust is the same as believing in the governments version of 911. Once you peel back the sensationlist claims that are made to support the official version and concentrate on the purely physical and scientific evidence associated with the two, then the real story becomes quite plainly self evident.
The other phenomena associated with both of these is once you refute the official truth and embrace an alternative version of the events then you never "willingly" go back to the official version.

One final item to ponder the age old question "Who benefits"? Those who benefit from any given circumstance are far less likely to question the event and in fact are more readily apt to promote the version that has brought them advantages, either real and or imagined.

12-02-2006, 01:21 AM

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Quote:Hi guys,
Probably you know that jewish are mainly 2 clans- Ashkenazi and Sephardi.
Try to guess which one was holocausted and why:)
Cheers!

THIS makes sense to me .
Could you please elaborate a bit ?

to those claiming it didn't happen : what drugs are you on ?
or did the Alien lizards beam them up , and that's why MILLIONS of Jews DISAPPEARED ?

Do the research and prove they did. Your statement reeks of emotional thinking and not a clear reasoned head at work.

winston smith · (This post was last modified: 12-02-2006 10:42 PM by winston smith.)

whats your point ?
Do you have one ?
" reeks of emotional thinking and not a clear reasoned head at work."
look at your signature , thats some clear head at work .

No , YOU do the fuckin research . Tell me where they are .
tell me where those Polish , Hungarian , German and all the other
Jews disappeared to . YOU are to ones claiming it's all a lie .
Well , then FUCKING PROVE IT instead of just sounding like
paranoid nazi-apologists .

edit : you know what ? FUCK this .

12-03-2006, 02:46 AM

Quote:edit : you know what ? FUCK this .

Well I guess that saves me digging out the facts then.

I will certainly state I take great exception to being called a nazi apologist. It's downright insulting and labeling people such as that is a work-around to avoid ugly facts. I don't like Nazi's... I don't like KKK and I sure the fuck don't like the insinuation that I do.

As far as I'm concerned, you're no longer welcome here, OR the tracker. I don't give a fuck how much or how often you may have donated, I'd rather refund that than accept your blood LIBEL money. Go fuck yourself.

Now since I have the ability to set my emotions aside (unlike you) I'll actually answer your question "where did they go?"

It is common knowledge that Poland had the vast majority of European Jewery prior to and during world war two.

Now, to be considered are two very important facts:

1) Hitler and Stalin agreed to split Poland in half upon Hitler's invasion.

Right there, it can be somewhat "truthfully" be said that: 1/2 of Poland's jews disappeared in late 1939. IOW, 1/2 of them became soviet citizens and thusly weren't counted as "European Jewery" any longer. So "on the books" it looks like multitudes of jews just disappeared when in reality they continued to live behind the Iron Curtain.

2) Poland's borders ARE NOT NOW what they WERE THEN. This is FACT idiot, go consult a map of the world today and a map from WW2. Poland's borders shifted HUNDREDS OF MILES to the west. This is because what was taken from the soviets wasn't given back, and also, war reparations from Germany saw Germany giving up land to Poland.

One small example... the city of Danzig is in Poland today..... 70 years ago it was a GERMAN city!

Now the German's had ALREADY deported their jews. 1/2 of Poland was gobbled up by the USSR. So ANY pre-war count of Poland's Jews is IRRELEVENT. Since Poland had MOST of European Jewery pre-WW1 it's doubly irrelevent.

I could go one.... but I'll return a question with one....

Where did all the Israeli immigrants come from? They didn't come from Ireland.... China.... Tibet.... Venszuala.... Somalia. Where did 6 MILLION Israeli's come from? Perhaps from the same pool of people where 6 MILLION Jews disappeared?

There's your answer, get the fuck off my site idiot.

black_action_hero · 12-03-2006, 04:02 PM

well put

JohnDoe1984 · 12-04-2006, 12:59 AM

Winston, don't tell me you fell for the ministry of truth. 2+2=4 not 5 Don't let them tell you different. Don't take the holocaust claims at face value. Investigate for yourself. That's all we're saying. If you've come far enough to make it to this thread you know that what you've been told in history class and on the news wasn't necessarily the whole truth. Don't defend it. I don't see why anyone would expect the holocaust to be any different.

All in all it's just another brick in the wall.