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JohnDoe1984 · 10-10-2006, 03:27 AM

This is a fairly good documentary on holocaust revision made by a Jewish guy no less. He goes to Aushwitz to investigate with his yamalka on. (don't think I spelled that right) :)

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/stats.ht...1c75f415275874f

I think the reason that so many survivors will still testify to witnessing the holocaust is that a lie is easy to pass off as the truth if it is mostly true.

Zyclon B stains gas chambers blue with repeated exposure. The de-lousing chambers are blue all over from gas, the supposed human gas chambers are not....?

The active ingredient in Zyclon B is cyanide gas. I wouldn't let my kids play around it. Actually some witnesses have been discredited because of testimony that German soldiers would remove bodies from the chamber directly after gassing without saftey equipment. This just didn't happen because you must let the gas clear for an extended time 20 30 minutes or more or risk being poisoned from residual cyanide over a days work.

One of the other camps, according to many witnesses, gased thier victims with diesel exhaust from a captured soviet tank engine. There's several problems with this senerio, not the least of which is using a 200 horsepower engine to produce gas to kill people is a very inefficient and stupid way to go about it. A wood fire is 100 times better at producing carbon monoxide gas and the Germans would have known that. Fuel during war isn't exactly a commodity that you just throw around with reckless abandon. Another thing is that gasoline engines are 10 times better at producing CO than diesels.

They are later said to have heaped the bodies in giant pits outside then simply splash diesel fuel on them to burn them up. Several mortitians have doubted these claims, bodies just don't burn very well. They're mostly water.

Like Mcfly said you can really go on all day these are just some of the blatent points I know of.

10-10-2006, 04:04 AM

I can torrent these if anyone wants them:

Arthur R. Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, third, revised and expanded edition.pdf
Barbara Kulaszka, 'Did Six Million Really Die'.pdf
Carlo Mattogno, Jrgen Graf, Treblinka. Extermination Camp or Transit Camp.pdf
Carlos W Porter, Not Guilty at Nuremberg.pdf
David Hoggan, The Myth of the Six Million.pdf
Dissecting the Holocaust. The Growing Critique of `Truth' and 'Memory', 2nd., revised paperback edition .pdf
Don Heddesheimer, The First Holocaust. Jewish Fund Raising Campaigns With Holocaust Claims During And After World War One.pdf
Germar Rudolf, The Rudolf Report. Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the Gas Chambers of Auschwitz .pdf
Info Brochure - the holocaust never happened.pdf
Jrgen Graf The Giant With Feet of Clay. Raul Hilberg and his Standard Work on the 'Holocaust'.pdf
Jrgen Graf, Carlo Mattogno, Concentration Camp Majdanek. A Historical and Technical Study.pdf
Jrgen Graf, Carlo Mattogno, Concentration Camp Stutthof and its Function in National Socialist Jewish Policy.pdf
Michael_Collins_Piper_BEST_WITNESS_The_Mel_Mermelstein_Affair_and_the
Paul Rassinier, THE REAL EICHMANN TRIAL or THE INCORRIGIBLE VICTORS.pdf
THE HOLOCAUST CONTROVERSY -- A Case For Open Debate.pdf

devkoo · 10-10-2006, 06:12 AM

This one talks about the zionist conspiracy with adolf hitler

Quote:§ During World War II as many as 150,000 Jews or "partial-Jews" (Mischlinge), served in the German armed forces, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals. Among them were Field Marshal Erhard Milch and Helmut Wilberg, one of the fathers of the blitzkrieg method of warfare that helped Hitler conquer most of Europe. (For an example of the solidly-researched documentation you'll find on the DVD, click here.)

§ IBM lands in Germany in March, 1933, the very month Hitler comes to power. IBM uses its punchcard system and begins to identify and catalogue the everyday Jews in Germany for eventual roundup. Even though IBM is headquartered in New York City and IBM President Thomas Watson receives many public awards from the Hitler government -- the New York Times hardly notices, and never objects.

§ Books which document that Hitler was helped to power by prominent Jewish owned companies and many Wall Street firms.

§ The little known Rakovsky interrogation is highlighted. Hitler and his archrival for European hegemony, Communist dictator Joseph Stalin, contended with, and were manipulated by, the same secret forces in international banking circles.

§ Jewish police help round up everyday Jews, and hand them over to the Nazis so they can be confined in concentration camps. This DVD identifies the book which exposes this aspect of pre-World War II Germany, and explains the reason why.

Ognir · 10-10-2006, 07:36 AM

Please put them in a Holocaust torrent
thanks Ctrl

Quote:I can torrent these if anyone wants them:

Arthur R. Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, third, revised and expanded edition.pdf
Barbara Kulaszka, 'Did Six Million Really Die'.pdf
Carlo Mattogno, Jrgen Graf, Treblinka. Extermination Camp or Transit Camp.pdf
Carlos W Porter, Not Guilty at Nuremberg.pdf
David Hoggan, The Myth of the Six Million.pdf
Dissecting the Holocaust. The Growing Critique of `Truth' and 'Memory', 2nd., revised paperback edition .pdf
Don Heddesheimer, The First Holocaust. Jewish Fund Raising Campaigns With Holocaust Claims During And After World War One.pdf
Germar Rudolf, The Rudolf Report. Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the Gas Chambers of Auschwitz .pdf
Info Brochure - the holocaust never happened.pdf
Jrgen Graf The Giant With Feet of Clay. Raul Hilberg and his Standard Work on the 'Holocaust'.pdf
Jrgen Graf, Carlo Mattogno, Concentration Camp Majdanek. A Historical and Technical Study.pdf
Jrgen Graf, Carlo Mattogno, Concentration Camp Stutthof and its Function in National Socialist Jewish Policy.pdf
Michael_Collins_Piper_BEST_WITNESS_The_Mel_Mermelstein_Affair_and_the
Paul Rassinier, THE REAL EICHMANN TRIAL or THE INCORRIGIBLE VICTORS.pdf
THE HOLOCAUST CONTROVERSY -- A Case For Open Debate.pdf

~~byrd~~ · 10-10-2006, 07:04 PM

i like this thread, hopefully you guys add more. cuz im always looking to learn more about this. i got into a cpl arguements with a cpl ppl, breifly, cuz i really dont know too much about it, just that i highly suspect that shit was fudged.

the type of ppl that bring up the history they were taught in sachool and cant understand how that could be incorrect, and really arent to interested in hearing an alternative history. i bring up ben freedman and his speeches and leave it at that.

ResistanceInOceania · 10-16-2006, 04:57 AM

While in the library the other day, i can acros a book entitled The Oxford History of the Prison: The Practice of Punishment in Western Society. Since I recently posted this topic, i skipped to hitler to see if my theory might be on the right track. In it, Paul Hilburd a leading historian of the Holocost described the Nazi detention:

"1. Political Prisoners
a.Communists (systematic round-up) This is after all who was blamed for the Reichstag fire.
b. Active Social Democrats
c Jehovah's Witnesses
d. Clergymen who made ndesired speeces or otherwise manifested opposition.
e. People who made remarks against the regime and were sent to camps as an example to others
f. Purged Nazis, especially S.A. men
2. So-called asocials. Primarily habitual criminals and sex offenders
3. Jews sent to camps in Einzelaktionen [individual encounters]"

Now, the author did not specifically say these are listed out respectively to their order of importance for inprosonment, but would you say it implies that? The one that really bothered me is D and E. While Hitler started making mass arrests right after hisEnabling act, our regime, in my view, is just passing legislation which puts the Enabling act to shame while not using it to its full potential until a later time.

deathstickboy · (This post was last modified: 10-16-2006 05:37 AM by deathstickboy.)

Quote:While Hitler started making mass arrests right after hisEnabling act, our regime, in my view, is just passing legislation which puts the Enabling act to shame while not using it to its full potential until a later time.

That is exactly the game. However we don't really know the extent to which its being used since no one is allowed to report on it if it happens, and we already know the media is controlled, so that just makes it even worse. However I would be willing to bet they they wait until after the next presidential election to really put it into action on a large scale. I bet it will be a "democrat" president who really gets hardcore about it....

10-16-2006, 06:58 AM

Quote:Please put them in a Holocaust torrent
thanks Ctrl

Quote:I can torrent these if anyone wants them:

Arthur R. Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, third, revised and expanded edition.pdf
Barbara Kulaszka, 'Did Six Million Really Die'.pdf
Carlo Mattogno, Jrgen Graf, Treblinka. Extermination Camp or Transit Camp.pdf
Carlos W Porter, Not Guilty at Nuremberg.pdf
David Hoggan, The Myth of the Six Million.pdf
Dissecting the Holocaust. The Growing Critique of `Truth' and 'Memory', 2nd., revised paperback edition .pdf
Don Heddesheimer, The First Holocaust. Jewish Fund Raising Campaigns With Holocaust Claims During And After World War One.pdf
Germar Rudolf, The Rudolf Report. Expert Report on Chemical and Technical Aspects of the Gas Chambers of Auschwitz .pdf
Info Brochure - the holocaust never happened.pdf
Jrgen Graf The Giant With Feet of Clay. Raul Hilberg and his Standard Work on the 'Holocaust'.pdf
Jrgen Graf, Carlo Mattogno, Concentration Camp Majdanek. A Historical and Technical Study.pdf
Jrgen Graf, Carlo Mattogno, Concentration Camp Stutthof and its Function in National Socialist Jewish Policy.pdf
Michael_Collins_Piper_BEST_WITNESS_The_Mel_Mermelstein_Affair_and_the
Paul Rassinier, THE REAL EICHMANN TRIAL or THE INCORRIGIBLE VICTORS.pdf
THE HOLOCAUST CONTROVERSY -- A Case For Open Debate.pdf

Done.

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/stats.ht...9a86d456151a0fe

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/torrents...151a0fe.torrent

Thracian · 11-27-2006, 02:33 PM

Hi guys,

Probably you know that jewish are mainly 2 clans- Ashkenazi and Sephardi.
Try to guess which one was holocausted and why:)

Cheers!

shZ · 11-27-2006, 03:11 PM

Hmm... I never really had the guts to talk about this subject or even look into it. Which now that I think about it, is reason enough for me to question what exactly transpired during the holocaust? And especially being someone who's been very vocal about the Isreal/Palestine issue in the other (sheeple) political forum I frequent, I was even more reluctant to look at this subject (since I've been called anti-semetic for simply criticizing Israeli policy, the occupation, Zionism, and means used to create the modern Zionist state). I really thought Holocaust 'deniers' possibly were anti-semetic until I finally download and saw One Third of the Holocaust (over 4 hours of common-sense exposure of holocaust hoax) from the tracker, and The Gates of Auschwitz. Although I still don't think the event never happened at all. I have no clue as to how many poeple died since what little I knew from official 'history' accounts was (largely) torn apart in those two documentaries. But isn't it a little far fetched to say that it didn't happen at all? Like someone earlier mentioned, hiven the numerous supposed survivors and their stories, it's hard to imagine that they're all lying. I guess the term I prefer to use it revisionist as opposed to denier, since most of the people I can think of whor'e called deniers dont' acutally deny it taking place but rather are skeptical of official historal accounts.

commanderson · 11-27-2006, 04:20 PM

I don't think there can be a doubt that jews were persecuted, tortured and killed in Nazi germany, it just how many and how this was committed, thats up for question, the issue is just sooooo controverial, in the mass publics mind, and most equate revisionism with neo-nazism, even my 'liberal' minded aunt thought that this brittish historian bloke David ? somebody was justifiedly jailed for the three years in Austria for simply saying he didn't believe there were six million killed, and that there were no gas chambers at auchwitz (revised to say there was one small facility).
This topic really brings out the fascist in people, who generally believe if free speech, but when it comes to the holocast, the rules change and free expression of ideas of this topic should land you in prison.

Since Thracian posted his question from the Hitler thread here too, Ahhl post ma response to it again too.
Oh yea and mention something I forgot to, that there's research (Iread it in the biggest secret) that indicated Hitler himself was the ultimate self-hating jew, being the illegitimate son of a Rothschild, hmmm?

I wouln't think to just guess with a whole world web of information to reference first, so after a quick sqiz at the origins of both sects, I'll now guess that the separdi sect were the origonal nomadic jews with a real religion, reverence for god, and empathy for fellow humans, and the Ashkenazi, the zionist off-shoot, made up mainly of slavic converts to the religion, who may have been behind the holocaust to try and elliminate the possative judeaic perspectives.
My personal feelings about zionism and judeaism are that zionist hide behind the sacred cow religion/race of jews, so they might get away with actions and outward opinions that would be immediatelly lambasted should the be expounded by anyother sect, than that of the much persecuted jews. This I believe was the real intent to the holocaust, perpetrated by zionists, so that their foothold in the middle east might be created, and critism stifled on their imerialist ambitions for the planet.
But as a religion they are little different from anyother that has held sway in world affairs, look at christianity, the crusades and inquizition, maybe anti-christian sentiments had been stifled with the persecution christians suffered in the collesium. And off the back of the persecution of muslims in the crusades and beyond, there being little said about the strict doctrines of whabism in saudi arabia (until more recent times).
I never get the real difference between any of the big three anyway, christianity, judeaism and Islam are almost identical, with jews and Muslims probably sharing more with eachother than christians (with the christian notion of a divine christ). and then all the worlds religion speak of roughly the same creation, history and morality, its just that the secrecy engulfing judeaism makes people nervious.

11-28-2006, 12:30 AM

Quote:I don't think there can be a doubt that jews were persecuted, tortured and killed in Nazi germany, it just how many and how this was committed, thats up for question,

Who cares? Are Jews special or something? Are they they new master race? How many gentiles died on the road to liberating the camps?

shZ · 11-28-2006, 02:22 AM

Quote:
Quote:I don't think there can be a doubt that jews were persecuted, tortured and killed in Nazi germany, it just how many and how this was committed, thats up for question,

Who cares? Are Jews special or something? Are they they new master race? How many gentiles died on the road to liberating the camps?

No, they're not. And I understand your frustration, trust me. I can't fucking stand how the holocuast is being used to blackmail the West into supporting the Zionist death machine in Palestine. But I don't see why we should be pissed at an entire people (any more than any other, since they're all groups are majority sheeple).

Calculon · 11-28-2006, 04:35 AM

Stalin killed 10 fold the ammount of people that Hitler did. My question is if our education system has to teach children about the holocaust then why dont they also teach them about what happened in Russia.

shZ · 11-28-2006, 05:07 AM

Quote:Stalin killed 10 fold the ammount of people that Hitler did. My question is if our education system has to teach children about the holocaust then why dont they also teach them about what happened in Russia.

I completely agree with you there.