Is Icke A Straw Man?

[Cycle of Eternity]

well what im saying...is for me personaly, this movie didn't change my beliefs in any shape way or form....

im just disappointed from the kind of reactions it brung...and to really see how smart concen members are...or aren't.

[black_action_hero]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[commanderson]

Quote:well what im saying...is for me personaly, this movie didn't change my beliefs in any shape way or form....

im just disappointed from the kind of reactions it brung...and to really see how smart concen members are...or aren't.

It didn't even give you pause to contemplate Icke's intentions and motivations in getting wrapped up in this obvious hit-piece? Courage in your convictions is one thing, dogged devotion another. I'll say again I think the good to come out of this movie is in peoples reactions and re-apraisals of the cutting edge of conspiracy research. Keeps folk on their toes, it aint stupid to ask questions where doubts are laid open, thats good sceptical enquiry.

[Cycle of Eternity]

well i didn't question Icke, i'm questioning TruthseekerTV...but as of now...im giving them the benefit of the doubt...they did say it was fake, so i don't know.

and no...unlike most of you here...i don't bring the same awareness to different things like documentaries. i try to see it for what it really is and piece it together to see if there's any positive motivation...but you guys REFUSE to try to see it because your blinded by your own beliefs to only see what you want or what you expect to see.

if i was a sheep (me personaly) and i saw this...i would wonder why they would make a movie like this for "no reason" reserach it more...and even look into David Icke and such....i don't see how you guys can't seem to wrap around mind around this concept...EVEN THO IT IS FAKE.

for all we know...this story could be real but they have no evidence of it, so they made a fake one about it....?

kinda understand, or overstand or evenstand what i'm saying here?

[black_action_hero]

hahahahaha

[Cycle of Eternity]

speak up and actually say something if your going to post anything.

otherwise you just make yourself look like a dumb ass/asshole

[commanderson]

Quote:well i didn't question Icke, i'm questioning TruthseekerTV...but as of now...im giving them the benefit of the doubt...they did say it was fake, so i don't know.

and no...unlike most of you here...i don't bring the same awareness to different things like documentaries. i try to see it for what it really is and piece it together to see if there's any positive motivation...but you guys REFUSE to try to see it because your blinded by your own beliefs to only see what you want or what you expect to see.

if i was a sheep (me personaly) and i saw this...i would wonder why they would make a movie like this for "no reason" reserach it more...and even look into David Icke and such....i don't see how you guys can't seem to wrap around mind around this concept...EVEN THO IT IS FAKE.

for all we know...this story could be real but they have no evidence of it, so they made a fake one about it....?

kinda understand, or overstand or evenstand what i'm saying here?

Na ah understand whit yer sayin' and thats your opinion and I have mine too, I thought what these pages were for was the exchange and discussions of eachothers ideas, not an abuse forum for disgruntled citizens, biting eachothers backs in the dog yard.
Was out for a swim, so dinnae fling a tantrum if ye dinnae get an immediate reply
I can understand your ben. o' the d remaining for Icke, but for truthseeker t.v? You don't really think their intentions are honourable do you?
This for me is an obvious hit-piece and I think Icke got sucked in for a bit too, maybe they'd read that Icke said the eyes go first , so they mock up an eye shift and just show that to him, cos' I read some where, (couldn't say if it was Icke's site or truthseekers) that certainly the shapeshift was represented to be real calling it the first shapeshift caught on Camera, and if this wasn't on Icke's site, his posting at that time certainly ambigious about the documentary nature of the film only after all this banter about it, did he state that it was fiction based on his theoreys basically! But truthseeker continue to hoodwink saying "we have to say this is not real, so does david. know what I mean wink wink, like some or its real, ie the footage of the eye, which I agree is possible, but seeing as they pretended the rest was real, it not very likely this is.
But wait a minute, I just looked back at the brandon thread and your the guy totally suckered into it, bought the DVD,
saw it before anyone else,
messed up seeding it for ages,
then got it to everyone else,
upon whence they saw it, and immediatelly tagged it bullshit,
you were still talking about how eiry the chanting was, and what the background conversations were at the grove "that is the connection to the revolution".,"and that fucking reptilian at the end looked like Dick Cheneya lot...you can even see the teeth too barely. very pointy."
well after folk had pulled it apart as fraud, and your calling me a dumb ass-hole !

Sheeed brudda, I know why your soo uptight and dinnae wan't to talk about it anymore, and are pissed at folk trying to have real discussions about this film and its fall out,
Your the guy that bought the Movie in all ways, hung around waiting for your little conspiripressie, watched it over and over, studying the grove and shapeshift stuff, when you finally got it out to your mates, they watched it once ... and said bullshit, you got egg on yer face buddie, atleast wear it with a smile.:blush:
by the way are you able to take quotes from other threads? some of the stuff you got there is classic!:crazy:

[Cycle of Eternity]

i didn't "sucker" into anything...and im not defending myself...im just making this known...i woulda bought the fucker anyways...

[commanderson]

:dazed:C'mon man, swallow yer pride and huv a wee giggle at yersel,your posts are still up for all to see. basically you got the best of it, you thought it was real for longer than most, you got the most exitement out of it, studying the footage to work out more etc. I saw it in an apple shop, after checking Icke's site, immediatly looked dicky but was stoked to do the research to find out it was fake, and then to debate, mainly here, where the disection centred around the copy you bought and downloaded to others, so hey respect! and hey Peace, lets not bicker So is Icke a straw man? - No you think not, fair eneogh, I still give him B of D too, but that movie and his subsequent silent promotion of it has somewhat eroded my resect for him. Any other opinions?

[Cycle of Eternity]

lol..show me a post where i thought it was real???
go ahead and quote it...

and quite frankly...i can care less what anyone thinks.
i was let down when i was watching it that it was fake...but never did i think it was real...i waited till i seen it to make that judgement.

whatever point you THINK you made, doesn't excist my friend.

so just because everyone else was anticipating this "documentary"...
i waited and watched it to make that observation...which i gave my hopes up on...but does not mean i believe it.

although i didn't give up on it right away...trying to find how it can be fake until someone posted a pic of that actor...at first i didn't think it was him....but sure enough it was!

so please tell me WHY and what kind of satisfaction could this convorsation bring to you if any?

there's a lot of shit that told it was fake...like who in their right mind would walk right in the middle of a seance like that and still try to be so covert about it? even the extras like when he first snuck in and the way that guy gave a toast...whatever he said sounded fake as hell to me.

i was let down...but never did i think this was the real deal 100%...i thought it could have some truth in it, besides David Icke being there and the reptilian conspiracy actually being a conspiracy....

i know wtf i thought, so no...im not going laugh at myself for being skeptical about it and still liking the movie anyways even tho its fake...

im sorry...but whatever YOU think doesn't pertain to myself.
and im not concerned honsetly what anyone "thinks" about what i thought...no one here is worthy enough to judge me...i know wtf is up with me...not any of you...just so you know...'cause i don't play this shit.

so im just going to let you all know right now...my opinions and most of my questions are rhetorical...meaning i don't need feedback from any of you. if i want any of that...i'll sincerely ask for it. and i know you guys aren't stupid...but don't take me for a fool, 'cause i'll rape your mental world if i wish...yes you BAH...say something or shut the fuck up.

you guys aren't really hearing me at all...you guys thought i blindly believed it when i just took the consideration the maybe its real and i would really like to see it. and i still enjoyed the flick anywho....

do you guys know what really made me upset about this "fiasco" you guys created.
that right away you started bashing David Icke and the reptilian theory...i didn't care about the Bradon Corey Story or TruthseekerTV...you guys really took this to heart and started acting like baligerant assholes and losing respect for a guy who did a fake doc BASED on truth after all the other real shit that he has done and all the otehr info he has gave out.
so when you say you "lost" respect for him...it sounds to me that the respect was never there in the first place!!!!!

how many people bashed your beloved Alex Jones (no pun, i respect the guy) when he showed up in A Scanner Darkly??? David Icke did the same thing in the Brandon Corey Story...he never gave out dis info...he even told "Brandon" he didn't know what the hell he was talking about. same fucking difference.

A Scanner Darkly is fictional story based on truth...same thing with The Bradon Corey Story...
but whats more easier to believe...right? so don't go and let a fake doc do the talking for you...
make sure you know what the hell is up...i mean really...ponder on it for a while.
'cause you'll just end up making yourself look like a fool...
so go look in the mirror and tell me what you see is what you thought you saw in me....

'cmon now...i've been on here for a while...i post a lot and you guys should know
your basscially asking the impossible from me

pffft fuck out of here with all that bullshit...i'm Intellekt...recognize.

and if you guys have anything to respond back...you obviously didn't understand me...again.

[blove8.]

err... Intellekt? I think he already posted something that makes it look like you thought it was real... here.

I don't know if that's your entire quote or not, and I couldn't care enough to go look. I thought since it doesn't look like you've seen that post here, you might want to. :smile:

[commanderson]

Quote:lol..show me a post where i thought it was real???
go ahead and quote it...

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how many people bashed your beloved Alex Jones (no pun, i respect the guy) when he showed up in A Scanner Darkly??? David Icke did the same thing in the Brandon Corey Story...he never gave out dis info...he even told "Brandon" he didn't know what the hell he was talking about. same fucking difference.

A Scanner Darkly is fictional story based on truth...same thing with The Bradon Corey Story...
but whats more easier to believe...right? so don't go and let a fake doc do the talking for you...
make sure you know what the hell is up...i mean really...ponder on it for a while.
'cause you'll just end up making yourself look like a fool...
so go look in the mirror and tell me what you see is what you thought you saw in me....

'cmon now...i've been on here for a while...i post a lot and you guys should know
your basscially asking the impossible from me

pffft fuck out of here with all that bullshit...i'm Intellekt...recognize.

and if you guys have anything to respond back...you obviously didn't understand me...again.

Your right "Intelleckt" I don't understand you at all, why would you say you weren't suckered into this thing, while its there for people to read, I quoted you on the Brandon Corey thread, and here's the quotes again
"well, it looked good. Brandon Corey seemed to be very skeptical about it.
he thought and pointed out things about what most people don't believe about it.
he at one point told David Icke "well i just don't believe you". lol.

its VERY GOOD!

im not going to bed until i get this on the tracker...so when i do sleep i can leave my comp
on all night and seed this at full speed" from page three,
then after you got it on tracker, and out to everyone, page four is made up of them all calling it bullshit, which you obviosly didn't even read, cos' on page five you say- "i could hear people talking when i first watched it about
"that is the connection to the revolution".

and when he's the waiter you can see this woman that looks like a slut
that just has her leg crossed over on some other dude with 2 older guys next to her.

ima go back and see if i can hear some other convorsations going on.

and imo..those chanting noises sounded very eerie. the tone of them didn't sound like a act.
and that fucking reptilian at the end looked like Dick Cheneya lot...you can even see the teeth too barely. very pointy."
What are you saying here? just joking right? Look man I offered you the olive branch in my last post, and you could only spit yer dummy again,
You say we started this stupid conversation about this stupid movie, but it was you wetting yourself over getting it, totally bought it after seeing it, and even after others disected it you wouldn't believe that it was a fraud. Man, if your human, dig deep for some humility, you were duped, get over it.

And about AJ in a scanner darkly, that was marketed as a movie, nobody was made to believe we were watching real footage, which it is obvios we were with brandon Corey, cos YOU bought it!

You also say," im sorry...but whatever YOU think doesn't pertain to myself.
and im not concerned honsetly what anyone "thinks" about what i thought...no one here is worthy enough to judge me...i know wtf is up with me...not any of you...just so you know...'cause i don't play this shit.

so im just going to let you all know right now...my opinions and most of my questions are rhetorical...meaning i don't need feedback from any of you. if i want any of that...i'll sincerely ask for it. and i know you guys aren't stupid...but don't take me for a fool, 'cause i'll rape your mental world if i wish...yes you BAH...say something or shut the fuck up.

you guys aren't really hearing me at all...you guys thought i blindly believed it when i just took the consideration the maybe its real and i would really like to see it. "

Your arrogance is unbelieve able, the biggest dupe on the site, and you make pronouncements that you don't need anyones feedback, when it was others that had to inform you that it was a fraud:geek:give me a break dude, your the total Cartman of Conspiracy Central.

Anyone wan't a real discussion about possible straw men in the Culture, shooting these fish is getting dull
blove what do you reckon, Icke still hasn't responded properly, was, is, your faith shaken in him?

[Cycle of Eternity]

lol yeh man...keep thinking all those things...whatever makes you feel better lol.

ain't anyone gonna always agree with you....deal with it and grow up child.

and no...it wasn't shaken lol...but yours obviously was! ha!

weak minded individuals should shut up...
telling me im a carman of concen..? wtf does that mean? you're a calss A ignornaus!!
i've been here soooo much longer and have plenty of respect on here as i do others....
so who are you to say who i am and who i am not???

ha see...i told you you'll end up making yourself look like a fool...
and judgeing my words to make it sound bettter to your cause is some sad shit man...haha.

[Cycle of Eternity]

Quote:err... Intellekt? I think he already posted something that makes it look like you thought it was real... here.

I don't know if that's your entire quote or not, and I couldn't care enough to go look. I thought since it doesn't look like you've seen that post here, you might want to. :smile:

lol...they did tho! everything i said there did seem weird.

but even the static or interference was poorly done in the hidden cam at the end.

[commanderson]

Intyellekt:freaked: i called ye cartman! like from south park, the fat stroppy kid who's allways right and his mother allways gets him what he wants.
I wan't disagreement and debate, thats what I'm on here for, but let me remind you of how this squable started.
You called me a stupid asshole for just disagreeing with you, so then I pointed out how gullable you must be, as the guy who's a documented dope, haveing bought brandon Corey hook-line and sinker.
Since then you've just hurled abuse cos' you know you aint got no argument, and its there to read that you are a total sucker (on the Brandon Corey Thread)
sure your a regular on this site, and I'm a new comer, and I'd like to show respect to my elders in that regard, but I aint having shit slung at me for no reason, off a guy who's wide open for a slagging..

So if youve got so much respect here, lets here from your supporters huh, Who thinks intellekt has got any (intellect)? And is telling the truth about not being suckered in by this movie?

You got nothing to say buddy, and all that abuse you just gave me seems to suit you far better