Parting Of The Red Sea & Did Christ Walk On Ice?

[inca]

Oceanographer Doron Nof did a miniature mock up of what happens actually in Suez but first read carefully Exodus 14:21 and then see this video:

http://doronnof.net/redsea.html

This oceanographer is the same one who says Christ walked ON ICE:

http://www.fsu.com/pages/2006/04/04/WalkedOnIce.html

But I doubt he was at the exat time for this or Peter would like to go along with him at 25 F!:crazy:Brrrr!:drunk:

Yet, this is an example of the things we ignore. Red Sea is not just "Yam Suph" Hebrew words meaning "sea of reeds" as books repeating like parrots what other books have been saying for a long time. Hebrew would render Egyptian "tjuf" (reed) into Zuph and not "Suph" and the whole area embraces both Gulf of Suez and A'qaba. Now this is important because when I climbed the Sinai/Horeb like any other tourist in Egypt, I knew that was THE FAKE Sinai because the one was always somehere else. <span style="color:#FF0000">Galatians 4:25 written at least 1800 years ago knew better. It was in Saudi Arabia, a 5.6 million $ military instalation forbidden for tourists and blackened as charred at the very top, petroglyphs at the altar, remains of 12 pillars, wells, stone fences, split in the rock where water came out. I'm talking about Jebel el Lawaz mountain. Yam Suph was incorrect, it's Yam Zuph and also means sea of thunder or hurricane in complete harmony with the very Arabic name of the Red Sea. So, it's not just "reeds" or swamps as you have probably read. The Greek word for the Red Sea used in Hebrews and Acts in the New Testament indicate that was not a swamp kind of thing but beloned to Indic Ocean. More than this, these authors on purpose disregard the fact Isaiah 51:10 is mentioning DEEP waters.
The should mention golden wheels of the pharaoh's charriot are still sunk under the waters in submarine land bridge at Nuweiba, Saudi Arabia or the infrared satellite photos showing the trail of the Exodus including Pihakirot.
http://www.wyattmuseum.com/images/wpe2E1.jpg

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/red-sea-crossing-05.htm

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/images/wpe95.jpg


Tell you what meanwhile, print this and study carefully:

http://www.truebiblecode.com/understanding249.html

You'll know -among other things- Hollywood confused WALLS of water with <span style="color:#3366FF">BARRIERS of water so in fact was no spectacular as <span style="color:#FF0000">The Ten Commandments but still impressive; you'll know coral would destroy completely whole Egyptian army and horses (rapid grow is food supply & large amount of decomposing organic matter) but enoigh O2 at 70 meters below to oxidize and destroy anything made of metal. Egyptian <span style="color:#FFFF66">golden charriot could be preserved by being encased in coral.

[waxzy]

Your assuming he even existed at all. Theory and myth don't equal fact.

=p

[inca]

You're talking about Moses or "Jesus"?

You know what, if cynical people went beyond skepticism, it would be good they would start to check each and every historical character on books, you name them Confucius, Siddartha Gautama, Mohamed, Mahavir, Sophocles, Plato, Aristotle, Nero and so on. But people like you don't do that. They desire to be controversial and they pick up "Jesus" as the target to be skeptical. Even considering the edited version of the Gospels, people should also consider the apocrypha. But now, they are so skeptical that using the argument of the power of Catholic church they are gonna say that ALL documents and even non-Christians were forged. :eyebrow: Very convenient!!!! Clap-clap-clap!
I mean, if that's the case what sort of intelligent dialogue can we make with these people who even ignore the Gospel of the 12 Holy and Thomas, etc that were hidden by Catholic church (not to mention the ones in Tibet and other 63 documents about Jesus whereabouts outside from Jerusalem which remain in Vatican library). So, no, I won't discuss that theme with you nor anyone.

If someone can invent or create Mount Sermon and other sayings of Christ, I tell you, that "inventor" must be Messiah himself. An considering a bunch of coward disciples became one of the biggest religions of the world out of somebody who never existed <span style="color:#FF0000">is a miracle more powerful than the walking on water, specially when we know Christians risked their lives to be burned alive or eaten by lions at Roman circus.
People like you usually are amateurs who rarely ever read a book in their lives and usually fail to make a criticism of the own critics or fail to digest information. More than this, in hypocresy they fail to apply that "rule of thumb" to each and every other character known in history. To believe the very age of Christianism came out of the invention of that man is so incredible stupid. That would be indeed a greater miracle to perform.
As a matter of fact, your blood also comes from nothingness. Your great grandparents didn't exist at all. Some time ago even birth certificates were rare, so lacking documents allow me to think they didn't exist. Hahaha!
Please, allow me to answer to anybody else but you. I reckon people with your attitude and I won't waste a single additional minute or energy in a chit chat.

[Seithan]

Always a pleasure reading your posts inca:)
I keep reading Jesus never existed, God does not exist ...but i see no proof of those claims ...still waiting for them on the Jesus never existed thread ...
I think if the bible says Jesus walked on water ...HE DID!:)and as an adept of the holographic universe i think with enough faith we can to!:)
Thanks for those links!

[Conspiracy Dave]

Do you really think people were so stupid 2000 years ago that they couldn't tell the difference between water and ice, or 80 degrees, and minus 20?
And yes, I read that guys stupid theory, and I give it as much credance as every other stupid theory scientists try to cock up to explain anything. Yeah, maybe Jesus was being carried by the rising bubbles of air from a patch of "swamp gas" - you know, it seems swamp gas has done alot of wierd things in the past like mimick UFO's - maybe it can make people float too.

By the way, he admitted he's a moron anyways:
"In today's climate, the chance of springs ice forming in northern Israel is effectively zero, or about once in more than 10,000 years," Nof added.

So wow, keep buying that Scientific American dude. I saw today in that magazine that we better stop burning our personal woodstoves with wood and pieces of plants, because "It's contributing to global warming" - yeah.

Better start making those corks for all the cows ass's too.

[inca]

Thanks for your reply. I loved that passion of you addressed to me. Yet, first things first. If you check the title of this thread again you will see a question mark: ?
That is, I'm not saying this is true. I'm just teasing whoever reads me. I said clearly these are just examples of what we ignore and in fact did an irony about my doubts Peter would like to jump beside the water at freezing temperatures, that is he was by that time very close to his Master to see if there was ice or not. All witness thought he was a ghost and were scared. I doubt that event had to be exactly at the precise time Messiah was passing by. That is whoever read me well understood me I don't believe that lie.
Even more, when I mentioned the splitting of the Red Sea I mentioned the link and the data this happened in A'qaba Gulf in Saudi Arabia and not Suez Gulf as that oceanographer is saying. It was just a pretext to tease the readers and check the evidence. To think deeper. Obviously you got to the right conclusion. The oceanographer is drawing attention to himself specialized in these miracle things. Smart guy and yet knowing too many people are stupid, he will have more fame and fortune. The only thing is people usually don't read me too well and think I'm as stupid as they are. Usually readers confuse the fact I write many times INFORMATION and not my personal conclusions or they confuse them all or put words in my :quiet:mouth that I never said in first place. Next time you ought to ask me: What do you think about this or that?

[ki~]

Since jesus "was a carpenter" maybe he made a table and put it in water and was like "WATCH!"

[shag]

Maybe a few thousand years there was a large tsunami on a rampage. And at that very same time some likely lads on fancy chariots who were having a few laughs, drinking and chassing poor folk etc, just happened to be passing buy... Seeing the water dissapear the fella's being chassed took advantage of the moment and ran off over the ground where the water had been just minutes before. The drunken hooligans rode out with drinks in hand chasing 'em and doing whatever else it is that drunken twats on speeding chariots do when in search of good clean fun...

Now you can just imagine what they said when they noticed the large wall 'o water looming over them as the wave finnaly hit home:drunk:

Well, thats my random fantasy for the evening.

Wait... Oo now that's interesting. Those ladies seem to like wrestling with those octopi. Now this story is going someware :tongue:

[inca]

Christ the "carpenter"... well, actually the Greek word used in the Bible was "tekton" meaning more a bricklayer and even builder or MASON than carpenter. It also suggest someone who could be a magician or knowing esoteric things. From all his 48 paraboles NONE OF THEM actually says anything related to carpentry and that's odd. Yet, if that word meant he was a builder or someone who could even design temples that is very important. Why so? Because there are his illustration references to build houses upon the proper ground and even <span style="color:#FF0000">ONE UNIQUE REFERENCE IN ALL ANCIENT GREEK LITERATURE. Which one?
The one in Mathew 6:27 in which he says who can add a CUBIT INTO HIS STATURE which is not a linear lenght or formula for how-to-be-a-basketball-player-7-feet-tall-star but is asking who can add a cubit of TIME to his lifespan by worrying? It's saying a formula which is esoteric: lenght equal age. This is linked to "inches" and Enoch and the 365 days/years code. Read more:
http://greatpyramid.org/aip/gr-pyr1.htm
Of course we could extend this to the meaning of Pi:
http://www.yfiles.com/pi.html
http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/H...h_the_ages.html
http://www.ccs-hk.org/DM/pyramids/giza.html
I hope not all of these sites have vanished....
Therefore, I doubt we can stablish a surfing Messiah with a surf done by himself & a bit like blonde Patrick Swayze surfer.

[itmakesmewonder]

These researchers found a wall underwater.

The Search for the Real Mt. Sinai

This award-wining film follows the journey of biblical experts Bob Cornuke and Larry Williams to Saudi Arabia, where some theorists claim they've discovered the real Mount Sinai, the mountain atop which Moses was handed down the Ten Commandments. Their mission is a secretive one that requires them to make their way through the harsh landscape under cover of darkness, a trip that leaves a lasting impression on hosts and viewers alike.


Pt. 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSv8KkihLOA