A Moment Of Truth Has Arrived

[Shinobi]

Does the book of Daniel cover these imminent events about to befall our world?

Once the Middle East is completely engulfed in nuclear flames, will Bush and Blair then turn to destroying the world's economy next?

This article from RENSE.COM may just fill-in what's to come soon if we all "read between the lines" of these passages of the Bible.

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DANIEL
Chapter 11

Verse 16)
And He, (Bush) shall stand in the glorious land, (Iran) which by his hand shall be consumed (all out Nuclear strike?).

Verse 17)
He, (Bush) shall also set his face to enter with the strength of his whole kingdom, and upright ones with him (Naval task forces combined with his remaining ground forces); thus shall he do: And he, (Bush) shall give him, (Mahmoud Abedinajad) the daughter of women, (symbolization of the American publics' integrity and resistance to an expanded war into Iran) corrupting her, (making us all his accomplice in this war). But she, (American public) shall not stand on his side neither be for him, (America's disillusionment with the Bush administration and the Iraq/Iran war will become an all-out PEOPLE'S war protest and resistance movement).

Verse 18)
After this shall he turn his face unto the Isles, ("the Anglo-Dutch financial oligarchy, otherwise known as the Club of the Isles") and shall take many, ("... the meeting this week of the Bank of Japan, where the decision will be made whether or not to abandon the yen carry trade, by raising interest rates. If a rate hike occurs, this will trigger a blow-out of the entire dollar-based global financial system.")
But a prince for his own behalf, (Tony Blair?) shall cause the reproach offered by him, to cease. [With the following unintended consequences to follow?] ("the Anglo-Dutch oligarchy, centered in the City of London, is arrived at a moment of truth that could determine, in the immediate hours and days ahead, whether the planet is plunged into a civilizational dark age.") Without his own reproach he, shall cause it to turn upon him, [will the Bank of Japan interest rate decision impact the economy of the U.K. also?]

Verse 19)
Then he, (Bush) shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land; (Dept. of Defense) but he shall stumble and fall, (Be Impeached!) and not be found, (go into exile somewhere in Paraguay!).

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EIR News Service
2-21-7

Two major events, both taking place this week, underscore the fact that the Anglo-Dutch oligarchy, centered in the City of London, is arrived at a moment of truth that could determine, in the immediate hours and days ahead, whether the planet is plunged into a civilizational dark age. Very few people and institutions around the world have the faintest idea that this is happening, and among those who would pose an alternative to this potential true global tragedy.

The events themselves, that signal this moment of truth, are the following:

First, we have the arrival in the Sea of Oman this week of the USS Stennis-led second US Navy carrier group. This means that the naval assets are in place in the Persian Gulf region to orchestrate a premeditated "accidental" confrontation between the US and Iran, which could trigger a full-scale American pre-emptive attack on Iran. In the past 24 hours, BBC has aired an exclusive expose of new US war plans, that would target the entire military infrastructure of Iran for a massive bombing campaign--not just limited strikes against a few purported secret nuclear weapons installations. This event is occurring as both Vice President Dick Cheney and President George Bush are on long-scheduled overseas trips.

Second, we have the meeting this week of the Bank of Japan, where the decision will be made whether or not to abandon the yen carry trade, by raising interest rates. If a rate hike occurs, this will trigger a blow-out of the entire dollar-based global financial system.LaRouche has emphasized the entire global financial system is under the top-down control of Anglo-Dutch financiers centered in London. They run the system through the yen carry trade, and through the related emission of floods of US dollars through the Fed's printing press. The US government no longer reports M3 money supply data because they are willfully covering up this element of the one, global hyperinflationary bubble. The yen carry trade and the M3 pump priming are run out of the City of London, and they are all part of the biggest John Law financial bubble in history.

Now, with the Persian Gulf deployment and the Bank of Japan interest rate decision both on the table at the same moment, we are seeing manifestations--shadows on the cave wall--of a faction fight between two rival factions within the Anglo-Dutch financial oligarchy, otherwise known as the Club of the Isles. There is one faction that is out to permanently destroy the United States now--once and for all. They are ready to pull the plug on the whole system, to bring down theUnited States and the entire nation-state system at this moment. They want the sudden-death destruction of the United States. The other, rival faction, wants a more managed process of destruction. They want to bleed the United States to death more slowly. The goal of the two factions is identical. Their approach differs.

LaRouche has emphasized, there is only one way to defeat this top-down Anglo-Dutch drive to break up the nation-state system and plunge the world into a prolonged dark age. That is a political solution, coming from the Government of the United States. The lead must come from the institution of the Presidency. This is why Cheney and Bush have to go now! Once the Presidency has been restored, the U.S. can proceed with an alliance with Russia, China, and India to impose a political solution, based on what FDR did with the war mobilization and the creation of the Bretton Woods fixed-exchange-rate system. That is the only alternative to the plunge into hell.

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bi...cgi?read=169694

http://www.rense.com/general75/moment.htm
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A Big long Hmmmmm

[Typhoid]

hmmmmmmmm...

I have always believed the bible to contain the plans of the Illuminati. I think that it was created to trap humanity into a blanket of saftey and illusion (religion). People find verses like this in the bible, and use it to "predict" events that happen. However, in the end of all of these verses it is told that Jesus will return and cure humanity of all plagues, plagues of disease and of men.

Near the end, people will flow into religious buildings and feel comforted knowing that God will protect them. But the God that we know is dead. The Bible predicts events that are unfolding because they have been planned by those who wrote it. It will not end the way the Bible foretells it to. It will end by having the Illuminate take over the world and install a new world government. Presidents speak of prayer and Jesus to make others sway to religion.

Things will happen that the Bible say will happen. All except the end.

The Bible will have the greatest twist ever created.


- typhoid

[SerialExpLain]

Revelation 18:1-24
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. (KJV)

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Quote:all manner vessels of ivory

Its like God even remembered all the poor elephants that were needlessly slaughtered:cry:

[SerialExpLain]

This certainly would qualify as appropriate I think for a thread named "A Moment of Truth Has Arrived":


Putin Orders Russian Military Forces To Attack US Forces During Iran Invasion

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index983.htm

[Typhoid]

Quote:Putin Orders Russian Military Forces To Attack US Forces During Iran Invasion

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index983.htm

Dear sweet mother of God, the time has come. :endnigh:

- typhoid

[Zoomie38]

Yes the Book of Daniel, Ezekiel, Isiah, and many more when put together tell alot about a huge war in the middle east. Basically this would be a timeline. There is Peace in Isreal (5 year Plan.) Peace that would allow Isreal to relax. Then it begins and the one thing that is odd about the prophecy is that all the countries are named kind of. But there is no mention of the USA. Everyone against Isreal. But no USA on either side. A good breakdown can be found by google Gog and Magog. It will really blow your mind.

[Moriani]

Quote:Does the book of Daniel cover these imminent events about to befall our world?

Once the Middle East is completely engulfed in nuclear flames, will Bush and Blair then turn to destroying the world's economy next?

This article from RENSE.COM may just fill-in what's to come soon if we all "read between the lines" of these passages of the Bible.

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DANIEL
Chapter 11

The answer is a resounding "NO."

The Big Clue is "Chapter 11."

Those prophecies in Daniel which impacted the immediate future, that is events in Daniel's day, are in Daniel Chapters 9 through 12.

Those prophecies in Daniel which relate to the distant future are in Daniel Chapters 2 through 8.

Of course, I'm absolutely certain you already knew that because you know that Daniel wrote Chatpers 9 through 12 in Hebrew, but he wrote Chapters 2 through 8 in Babylonian, not Hebrew.

It is in Chapter 11 that Daniel explains how the distant events in Chapter 8 came to be. Chapter 11 prophecizes the overthrow of the Persian Empire by the Greek Empire, the overthrow of the Greek Empire by the Macedonian Empire, the death of Alexander and the division of his empire among his sons, and the rise of the Ptolemies and Selucids. All of those events have already taken place.

Chapter 7 in Daniel is the only chapter that has any current relevance. All of the events in Daniel Chapter 7 have come to pass up through the final end of the reign of the anti-christ, and that will occur in 2034. The remaining events in Daniel 7 will occur between 2034 and 2260.

[deathstickboy]

Quote:Does the book of Daniel cover these imminent events about to befall our world?

No.

A person living in the middle east (who has the ear of a King) talking about future wars in the middle east.

Wow, how fucking amazing is that eh?

In 2300, when Jesus still hasn't come yet, and people are still fucking fighting in the middle east, Christians will still be saying "No really, Daniel applies to right NOW, and the next 50 years, seriously, I can prove it, just let me read this prophecy to you and then interpret it in such a way that it will fit my pretermined beliefs about the apocalypse".

(ps the above sentence was inspired prophecy)

[Moriani]

Quote:But there is no mention of the USA. Everyone against Isreal. But no USA on either side.

That isn't entirely true.

What did the Welsh call their language?

Gomerag.

Notice anything?

Let's break it down: "Gomer" and "ag."

"Ag" denotes the genitive case. Genitive case of course is possessive, ie "of Gomer."

The language of Gomer, that's what the Welsh spoke.

Gomer, as in "Gomer, Gog and Magog." Welsh myth says they came to the British Isles about 3 centuries after the Deluge. It's supported in part by recent archeaological findings. Magog is nothing more than "Gog" with the prefix "Ma" denoting "territory of/land of." The land of Gog.

Gomer in ancient Hebrew was rendered as GMR. But in other consonantal languages, it was rendered as CMR. Once vowels were instroduced to alphabets, it became Gomer and Cimer. Cimer is synonymous with Cimmerians, who were what the Greeks callled Celtoi and who are now known as Celts.

Celtic tribes settled where? The British Isles, among many places. And the US was founded by whom? The descendants of largely Celtic tribes who had later assimilated with Angles, Saxons and Jutes.

<span style="color:#33CCFF">Eze 39:6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I [am] the LORD.

That makes perfect sense.

In the end times, Israel is attacked from the north and west. The British Isles are to the "north and west."

Ancient Hebrew has no words meaning "northwest," "southeast," "northeast" etc.

The ancient Hebrews wrote such directions as "north and west" or "south and east" or "north and east" to describe those locations.

Most bible translations do a great disservice because they typically mistranslate the passage (you have to wonder if it's intentional) as "from the north" and sometimes as "from the north and from the west."

I don't know if it makes a difference, but the last part of the passage is best translated as "and they shall know that I [am] Yaweh."

[Moriani]

Quote:

Quote:Putin Orders Russian Military Forces To Attack US Forces During Iran Invasion

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index983.htm

Dear sweet mother of God, the time has come. :endnigh:

- typhoid

Don't worry about it. It's called "Rhetoric."

If you study the history of the USSR/Russia, you'll notice a very clear and distinct pattern.

Of the following events:

Repression of Berlin Rebellion '46
Berlin Blockade '46
Repression of Berlin Rebellion '48
Repression of Polish Rebellion '49
Budapest '56
Berlin Wall '61
"Missile Crisis" '62
Prague '68
Afghanistan '78
Chechnya '91
Chechna '97
Capture of Pristina Airport '99
and numerous other examples

when did the Soviets/Russians make verbal threats?

They didn't.

Soviet/Russian strategic and tactical doctrine relies exclusively on speed and suprise.

That's why the Soviets/Russians never telegraph their intent. If they're going to do something, they just up and do it.

When the Soviets/Russians say they intend to do something, they never do it.

Look at the threats to use nukes in the Suez Incident, etc etc etc, the the threat to send troops to Yugoslavia to repel an invasion by US ground forces etc etc etc. I can list dozens and dozens of examples. In each case, the Soviets/Russians failed to follow through.

They aren't stupid. Like any government, they know how to manipulate the US media to get that knee-jerk response.

Yeltsin threatens to send Russian troops to defend Yugoslavia, the US media goes berserk, Americans have a cow, and Clinton backs off sending US troops to Yugoslavia and opts for an air campaign instead.

The Russians do send troops, but in coordination with the US. However, in the middle of the night with the French watching and saying nothing, the Russians get up and move to capture the airport at Pristina, so that the US could neither use it nor bomb it. Great move by the Russkies.

So, you've seen this dozens of times before, and what has happened? Nothing. So stop worrying.

If the Russians were silent, then you would have good reason to be fearful, because their silence would indicate at the very least that they were considering a military response.

Remember, the Russians never telegraph their intentions, never, meaning at no time ever. If they're going to do something, they will do it without any prior warning or fanfare.

[drunkenmunky]

I know I have posted it before, but has anyone else thought that the predictions mentioned in the Bible, are being followed like a blue print, so as to strenghten beliefs, and gather more.... for easier manipulation.

Also, I doubt Russia will avoid getting sucked into the EU.

One way to knock down the whole thing, is to stop everyone using the current monetary system, and survive economic depression.

[SerialExpLain]

Quote:The Art of War by Sun Tzu

http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/mirro...Tzu/artwar.html

18. All warfare is based on deception.

19. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.

Sun Tzu said: Whoever is first in the field and awaits the coming of the enemy, will be fresh for the fight; whoever is second in the field and has to hasten to battle will arrive exhausted.

...but if the Russians were not headed to Iran and Israel/USA were amassing troops in the region, it might be all kinds of messy for them. Like: Excuse us, step aside, coming through now, we need to get in there.

Bet on it: If Israel/US are amassing troops there, the opposition would be doing likewise.

[SerialExpLain]

REv. 18:2 (KJV)

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird


...and a cage of every unclean and hateful B I R D ? ? ?


YES! Phoenix Bird! Investigate all things Phoenix, Phenix, Phoenix_Rising....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zahqcST5UMY


Interesting connections regarding spinning, earth's rotation, Foucault's Pendulum, etc. are popping up around the 2012 phenomena that I have seen put forth.

[Zoomie38]

Quote:

Quote:Does the book of Daniel cover these imminent events about to befall our world?

No.

A person living in the middle east (who has the ear of a King) talking about future wars in the middle east.

Wow, how fucking amazing is that eh?

In 2300, when Jesus still hasn't come yet, and people are still fucking fighting in the middle east, Christians will still be saying "No really, Daniel applies to right NOW, and the next 50 years, seriously, I can prove it, just let me read this prophecy to you and then interpret it in such a way that it will fit my pretermined beliefs about the apocalypse".

(ps the above sentence was inspired prophecy)

DSB Have you ever actually Researched the book of Daniel? Or did you just read it. The Book of Daniel is one of the most Bizarre books in the Bible. The Problem with just reading the book of Daniel is it is only part of the prophecy. To Decipher it you must study Ezekiel, Leviticus, Genesis, Revelation, Matthew, Luke, Peter, and Jude. I am sure I left something out. The Point is that Not One book in the bible has the answer and nor does one person. Many of the Old Testament books cover the same thing they just have different authors therefore different points of view. As a Christian I do not claim to know the answer in which case that might make me a little Odd. I believe the answer is within all of our hearts and the way to understand them is by spending time with the Lord thru prayer and study. I think alot Christians get into the habit of Studying studies instead of the Bible in which case the findings will be skewed to the writers point of view.

I do however believe the end is near. I cannot comprehend the Evil that has grown across this earth. I believe that Evil has infiltrated all aspects of our lives including the church. SO the feeling in my Heart says yes the end is near so that means I must then become closer to my God and strengthen my faith. It is Faith that will deliver humanity in the end. There are things going on in this world right now that can only lead to War. Biblical in proportion to what most of us have seen in our life time. The Old testament Wars were fought for one reason. One country or group wanted to totally wipe the other off the face of the earth. If I remeber correctly that is what God had requested of the Jews in Exodus. He told them to kill eveyone Man, Woman and Child. Today there is a country who wishes to fight a war like this or so they say. (IRAN) With Russia, Ethiopia, Egypt,The Islamic countries of the former Soviet Union, and most of the EU will form and alliance with one motive to rid the world of Isreal. You may wonder Why(Maybe Just a little)




Ezekiel 38:3-5 (New International Version)



3 and say: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of [a] Meshech and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. 5 Persia, Cush [b] and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets,



This will be the war that will bring about the end and if you follow the news the alliances are beginning to come together.

Zec 12:2- 3

" Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it."


I believe this and Believe that this is the way it will finally come to pass but I just do not know when. Maybe 2012 maybe as you said in your pro[hecy 2300 but it will pass as the Bible has stated.

Peace

[Zoomie38]

The Coming War of Gog and Magog, an Islamic Invasion?



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Ezekiel 38 through 39 tells of a future invasion of Israel by a vast coalition of nations that surround it. As we read the headlines in the newspapers of today, and witness the conflict in the Middle East, it's not hard to imagine that this invasion prophesied over 2600 years ago, could be fulfilled in our lifetime. Ezekiel 36-37 predicts a gathering of the Jews to the nation of Israel, which will be followed by this massive invasion. For 19 centuries the Jewish people were scattered throughout the world, and until May 14, 1948 there was no nation of Israel to invade. With the nation of Israel now a reality, the stage seems set for the war that will usher in the tribulation and the rise of the Antichrist; a war that will end with the destruction of Israel's enemies by God Himself, and lead to the signing of a peace treaty with the Antichrist.

As you read Ezekiel 38 and 39, it isn't just the creation of the nation of Israel that makes this prophecy seem likely to be fulfilled in the near future. The nations that God tells us will form this coalition against Israel seem more likely now than perhaps ever before to form just such an alliance. To understand the prophecies of Ezekiel about this future invasion, it's important to understand who the players will be.

There are many theories as to who will join in this future invasion of Israel. Before going through a list of the individual nations, I'll list some of the more common theories you'll hear when studying the prophecies from Ezekiel 38.

Ezekiel 38:1-6 The word of the Lord came to me; Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal; prophesy against him and say: 'This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army - your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. Persia, Cush and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops - the many nations with you.'

1. Hashemite Kingdom Theory: The Islamic Nations will come against Israel either by an Iraqi-led, Jordanian led, or Turkish led coalition. The enemy from the north refers to the areas of Syria, Turkey, and Iraq. These Islamic nations make up the lands occupied by Magog, Gomer, Togarmah, Meshech and Tubal.

2. Caucus Theory: Gog and Magog are the Arab nations in an alliance with the Muslim republics of the former Soviet Union. This theory leaves out most of Russia, and includes only the southern part.

3. All Europe theory: Gog and Magog are the sons of Japeth thus the originators of the European races. Gog and Magog therefore indicates all of Europe. This is not a widely held theory and I could find little support for it.

4. Russian Theory: The Hebrew word 'rosh' in verse 3 is identified with Russia, 'Tubal' with Tiblisi or Tobolsk and 'Meshech' with Moscow, therefore Gog and Magog refers to Russia. This is one of the most commonly held views and is based on a different interpretation of the Hebrew word Rosh (used as a noun rather than adjective), similarities in the pronunciation of words, and the Greek translation of Rosh referring to a tribe of people found in what is now Russia.

5. Indo-European Theory: Gog and Magog include the nations descending from Japheth: Russia, the Caucasus(Turkey), Iraq, and the Islamic republics of Central Asia. The coalition is an alliance of Arab nations, Muslim republics, Georgia, southern Russia and the Black sea area.

These are some of the theories you will find if you do any research into the prophecies of Ezekiel 38. You may also find interpretations that are a combination of these, and in fact, I tend to find more evidence for a version of the Indo-European and Caucacus Theory.

Before looking at the participants of this invasion in more detail, it's important to understand that the war described in Ezekiel 38 is not the same as the war that will come at the end of the tribulation when Jesus returns to defeat the Antichrist and establish his millennial kingdom. How do we know this? The war at the end of the tribulation, known as Armageddon, is a world war. Revelation tells us that this battle will involve all nations. The war described in Ezekiel includes specific nations that invade Israel. Also, Armageddon is at the climax of the tribulation, while the war described in Ezekiel comes well before then.

Ezekiel 38:1-7 gives 10 names as participants in the invasion of Israel that will follow the regathering of the Jews to their homeland. First mentioned, is the land of Magog. The most common identity for Magog is in Central Asia. The Jewish historian Josephus said, "Magog founded the Magogians, called Scythians by the Greeks. Scythians were a nomadic tribe who inhabited the ancient territory from Central Asia across the southern part of ancient Russia." Today this area is inhabited by the former Soviet Republics of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, and possibly northern parts of Afghanistan. All of these nations that make up the land of Magog have one thing in common - Islam. Militant Islam has been on the rise in these countries since the fall of the Soviet Union, when Islam no longer had to be practiced secretly. Radical Islamic groups such as the Islamic Renaissance Party, the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, and Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islam are working to reunite central Asian nations and ultimately the entire Muslim world. It is from this part of the world that a leader will arise to bring together a great coalition of nations to invade Israel.

Probably the most debated verse is Ezekiel 38:3. There are two main views on the identity of the Nations God is referring to in this verse. I'll list both here, and let the reader decide which sounds most reasonable.

Rosh as Russia

Some versions of the Bible translate the Hebrew word 'rosh' in verse 3 as a noun referring to a place in Russia. The least credible support for this view is that Rosh sounds like the modern-day name Russia and Meshech sounds like Moscow. In this translation they treat rosh as a proper name. The Greek translation translates Rosh as the proper name Ros. Because the ancient Sarmations were known as the Ras, Rashu, and Rus and inhabited Rasapu which is now Southern Russia, some feel this verse points to Russia as the prince of Rosh. Another support sited for this view is that verse 6 and 15 say the invasion will come from remote parts of the north, and Russia is more remote.

Rosh as chief

Other versions of the Bible translate 'rosh' as an adjective. The argument here is that in the Massoretic text the words 'chief prince' carry the accents Tiphha and Zaqeph-gadol. The Tiphha appears under the resh of the Hebrew word 'rosh'; the Zaqeph-gadol appears on top of the sin of the Hebrew word 'nish'. The Tiphha to the right, underneath the initial consonant of the world 'rosh', or chief, is prepositive and does not mark the tone syllable. The world 'nish' or prince has the accent Zaqeph-gadol which is disjunctive and indicates a pause. So, verse three would read:

"Behold, I am against thee, o Gog, the prince, {pause} chief of Meshech and Tubal"

Rather than:

"Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal."

Here 'rosh' is translated head or chief as it is 423 other times in the Old Testament.

In short, if you believe 'rosh' should be translated as a proper noun you may find the interpretation that Russia will be a part of this coalition more reasonable. If you believe 'rosh' should be an adjective here, you need only concern yourself with who Meshech and Tubal are. I tend to have a problem with the "it sounds like Russia" theory, and find the translation of rosh as an adjective more believable, but to each his own.

Meshech and Tubal in verses 2 and 6, were the names of the 6th and 5th sons of Japheth, the son of Noah (Gen. 10:2). Ezekiel 27:13 also mentions Meshech and Tubal as trading partners with Tyre (Modern Lebanon). It's likely that Meshech and Tubal refer to the ancient Moshi/Mushki and Tubalu/Tibareni who dwelled in the area around, primarily south of, the Black and Caspian Sea in Ezekiel's day. Today these nations would be in the modern country of Turkey, parts of Southern Russia and Northern Iran. All areas with a Muslim majority.

Verse 6 adds Gomer and Beth-Togarmah to the coalition. "Gomer" was the first son of Japheth. The Gomerites were the ancient Cimmerians, expelled in 700 B.C. from the southern steppes of Russia into what is today Turkey. "Togarmah" is the 3rd son of Gomer and beth at the beginning of the name is the Hebrew word for 'house' or 'place of'. In Ezekiel's time there was a city in Cappodocia (Modern Turkey) known as Tegarma, Tagarma, Til-garimmu, and Takarama.

The possibility that four of the names mentioned in Ezekiel are now in Turkey makes a pretty strong argument for Turkey being a part of the invasion of Israel. Current circumstances in that country also lend this view some credibility. Since the break-up of the Soviet Union, Turkey has been gaining inroads into Central Asia (Magog). It is also linked to Central Asia both ethnically and linguistically, and has a growing number of political parties that support opposition to Israel, establishment of a Turkish Islamic Republic, and the worldwide rule of Islam.

Verse 5 brings three more names into the mix. God tells us that "Persia, Cush and Put will be with them".

Persia is a pretty easy one. In 539 B.C. the Persians conquered the city of Babylon. You only need look at a map of the ancient Persian Empire to see that it was centered in the nation known today as Iran. In fact Iran was called Persia until 1935 when it was changed to Iran and then to the Islamic Republic of Iran in 1979 during the Iranian Revolution. It's no secret that Iran is an archenemy of Israel and the West, and a supporter of the Palestinians. They are actively working to get other Arab countries to change camps in their cooperation with the U.S. and Israel.

The ancient kingdom of Cush in Ezekiels time was the land just south of Egypt on the Nile River. Today this land is occupied by Sudan. Sudan is home to the National Islamic Front, is ruled by an Islamic military dictatorship, a strong supporter of Iraq, home to Osama bin Landen from 1991-1996, and harbors countless Islamic terrorist groups. Sudan would easily fit into the coalition as it is already close allies with Iran, trading military supplies for docking rights on the Red Sea shipping routes.

Ancient Put was the land just west of Egypt, or what is today Libya. Libya is another sponsor of terrorism, and openly refuses to recognize Israel's right to even exist. When the coalition against Israel is formed, Libya won't have to be asked twice to join.

Verse 6 adds "and many people with you." The nations listed specifically are all somewhat distant from Israel. By adding "and many people with you", God may have been indicating that those nations and peoples in closer proximity to Israel will join the Jihad. Other nations that might join the alliance are Iraq, Syria, Jordon, and Egypt. All of them are Islamic nations, and all of them would not hesitate to support the destruction of Israel were the opportunity to join such a vast coalition presented to them.

Below is a list of the nations that are listed in Ezekiel as Israel's last-days enemies:

The reasons God gives us for the enemies' invasion of Israel are further proof that the attack will be an Islamic invasion.

The first reason God gives for the invasion in Ezekiel 38 is a desire by the coalition to cover the Jewish land and wipe them off the face of the earth. Urged on by a hatred of the Jewish people they will seek to destroy them and the nation of Israel. This is the stated goal today of almost every Islamic nation in the Middle East. The only nations not currently in a declared state of war with Israel are Egypt, Turkey, and Jordan, yet they would certainly be glad to see Israel eliminated if presented with a willing leader and an opportunity to rid the Middle East of Islam's archenemy.

God tells us that they also come to "seize plunder…and to capture great spoil". Many verses in the Quran advocated plundering for the benefit of Islam and there are several instances of this war tactic throughout the history of Muhammad's life. In fact, it is a common theme in his teachings.

This invasion of Israel and attack on the Jewish people will indeed be a Jihad, but it will also be the final Jihad.

Ezekiel 38:13 "Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish with all its villages will say to you, 'Have you come to capture spoil? Have you assembled your company to seize plunder, to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to capture great spoil?'"

As this invasion develops, a few countries will make a lame protest. This isn't hard to believe when you look at the indifference most nations display as Israel is repeatedly attacked by terrorists.

The specific nations who question Gog's actions are "Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish". Sheba and Dedan are not hard to identify. These were ancient names for what is known today as Saudi Arabia.

Tarshish is most commonly agreed to be ancient Tartessus or the area of present day Spain in Western Europe. In Ezekiels day, Tarshish was in the farthest west regions of the known world. By referring to Tarshish and all her merchants, Ezekiel could have been indicating that Western Europe will join with Saudi Arabia in denouncing the invasion. Interestingly, Saudi Arabia is the only Arab nation to consistently side with the West against radical Islamic elements around the world. The royals of Saudi Arabia mostly side with the West out of an interest in self preservation, and at times oppose us behind the scenes, but they would most probably put on a show of opposition to radical Islam in order to maintain the support of western governments.

A similar alliance has been seen once before during the Gulf War of the early 1990's. The U.S., Western Europe, and Saudi Arabia were allied against Iraq, while Russia, Iran, Sudan, Libya, and most other Middle East nations either aligned with Iraq, or against the U.S. either by directly opposing it, or by remaining neutral.

The good news is that God wins. God will come against the invaders Himself and destroy them. Verses 19-20 say that there will be an earthquake so great that people all over the world will tremble. In the ensuing chaos, nations will begin to turn on each other. The confusion will lead to the largest case of death by friendly fire ever seen.

Verse 22 of Ezekiel tells us that there will be plagues, torrents of rain, hailstones, and burning sulfur. Just as God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, he will destroy these invading forces. Once again, God will make it known to all the nations that He is the Lord. He will give the nations proof that He is the Holy One in Israel.

This war against Israel will pave the way for the Antichrist's military rule over the world and his demand that the world worship him as God. With Islam defeated and the Christian Church raptured, opposition to worshipping a man as God will be greatly reduced. Those who are left would have no army with which to mount much of a protest.

So, how should Christians respond to this prophecy? In Ezekiel 39:6,7, and 28 God says that this end-times battle will happen that "they will know that I am the Lord". This message that God's purpose is to cause Israel and the other nations to know He is Lord is repeated over 60 times in Ezekiel. By learning about prophecy and teaching it to others, people will be able to see the glory, majesty, and sovereignty of God in the fulfillment of His divine word. By knowing our Bible and teaching it to others, they will be able to see that there is a divine creator, and a plan for them. Through Jesus Christ and the salvation he offers us freely, there is victory and an eternity more glorious than they can imagine.




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