Blaming The Jews

[wokensheep]

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...laming+the+jews

[rockclimber]

Quote:http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...laming+the+jews

I haven't watched the documentary yet and I would agree there is hatred on both sides.

But let me ask you the question: why do you think they hate the joos? Not that it is right, but what do you think is the underlying reason? Then explain why do you think the Joos hate the Palestinians and Arabs?

As mentioned, hate is wrong period but there are reasons why there is hatred in the first place.

[Moriani]

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Quote:http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...laming+the+jews

I haven't watched the documentary yet and I would agree there is hatred on both sides.

But let me ask you the question: why do you think they hate the joos? Not that it is right, but what do you think is the underlying reason?

Oppression.

Did you know that 1/6th of Jordan's GDP is US foreign aid? What do you suppose King Abdullah II does with that money? He funnels it right into his security apparatus. You know, the secret police, domestic intelligence agencies, and the like. And then they go out and oppress people who want free and open elections, who want the government to divest from business and sell off the state/nationalized industries and get rid of the tariffs and taxes and laws that prohibit the creation of new jobs, and to set up a system of to protect property rights to encourage investment, not only by locals, and other Arabs or muslims, but also foreign investment. And what do you thing Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE do with their US foreign aid? Same thing.

There aren't any high school dropout terrorists. They've always been college educated, but they can't get a job because there are very few, and those jobs that do exist are part of a political patronage system and handed out to loyal supporters. They never get hired because they're of the wrong political persuasion, or their father or grandfather said or did something or is suspect and classified as an "enemy of the state" or they're from the wrong tribal group or clan. It gets frustrating and the more virulent forms of Islam, like Wahabism in Saudi Arabia become very attractive.

They see Israel as linked to the US because the US is either giving foreign aid money to those governments to be nice to Israel or to serve the own selfish interests of the US which is also the interest of Israel, since the US is the only country that will take sides with Israel. Whether that's true or not is irrelevant, since that's how they see it. So if there was no Israel or if there was a Palestinian state, then many of the problems would not exist, at least in their eyes.

And because the US gives Israel billions in a variety of forms of foreign aid, in fact, Israel gets more foreign aid from the USAID than any country on the planet, so much so that the US spends more than $6,000 a year person on Israelis than it does its own citizens, Israel has a large well equipped hi-tech military force. And because Israel has never renounced its claims on Greater Israel, all of the countries involved must spend lots of money on their militaries. The Arab muslim countries in the Middle East spend a higher per capita rate on their militaries than the US does, and that takes away money from other things, like social programs.

And all of this is recent. It's only been in the last 55 years that this kind of animosity has existed. The Palestinians welcomed the Jews in the 1880s when they first started immigrating to Palestine. They both lived and worked together for about 40 years before the Zionists screwed everything up.

When the Israelis began ethnic cleansing operations just prior to declaring statehood, that pretty much screwed things permanently. And the hipocrisy of that is the Jews demanded reparations from the Germans for being evicted and the loss of their property, yet when the Palestinians demanded reparations for being evicted and losing their homes and businesses, the Israelis told them to get bent.

[grell]

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Quote:http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...laming+the+jews

I haven't watched the documentary yet and I would agree there is hatred on both sides.

But let me ask you the question: why do you think they hate the joos? Not that it is right, but what do you think is the underlying reason?

Oppression.

Did you know that 1/6th of Jordan's GDP is US foreign aid? What do you suppose King Abdullah II does with that money? He funnels it right into his security apparatus. You know, the secret police, domestic intelligence agencies, and the like. And then they go out and oppress people who want free and open elections, who want the government to divest from business and sell off the state/nationalized industries and get rid of the tariffs and taxes and laws that prohibit the creation of new jobs, and to set up a system of to protect property rights to encourage investment, not only by locals, and other Arabs or muslims, but also foreign investment. And what do you thing Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE do with their US foreign aid? Same thing.

There aren't any high school dropout terrorists. They've always been college educated, but they can't get a job because there are very few, and those jobs that do exist are part of a political patronage system and handed out to loyal supporters. They never get hired because they're of the wrong political persuasion, or their father or grandfather said or did something or is suspect and classified as an "enemy of the state" or they're from the wrong tribal group or clan. It gets frustrating and the more virulent forms of Islam, like Wahabism in Saudi Arabia become very attractive.

They see Israel as linked to the US because the US is either giving foreign aid money to those governments to be nice to Israel or to serve the own selfish interests of the US which is also the interest of Israel, since the US is the only country that will take sides with Israel. Whether that's true or not is irrelevant, since that's how they see it. So if there was no Israel or if there was a Palestinian state, then many of the problems would not exist, at least in their eyes.

And because the US gives Israel billions in a variety of forms of foreign aid, in fact, Israel gets more foreign aid from the USAID than any country on the planet, so much so that the US spends more than $6,000 a year person on Israelis than it does its own citizens, Israel has a large well equipped hi-tech military force. And because Israel has never renounced its claims on Greater Israel, all of the countries involved must spend lots of money on their militaries. The Arab muslim countries in the Middle East spend a higher per capita rate on their militaries than the US does, and that takes away money from other things, like social programs.

And all of this is recent. It's only been in the last 55 years that this kind of animosity has existed. The Palestinians welcomed the Jews in the 1880s when they first started immigrating to Palestine. They both lived and worked together for about 40 years before the Zionists screwed everything up.

When the Israelis began ethnic cleansing operations just prior to declaring statehood, that pretty much screwed things permanently. And the hipocrisy of that is the Jews demanded reparations from the Germans for being evicted and the loss of their property, yet when the Palestinians demanded reparations for being evicted and losing their homes and businesses, the Israelis told them to get bent.

:clap:Excellent post.

[Phil999]

yes, very well said. Especially this part did educate me:

Quote:And because Israel has never renounced its claims on Greater Israel, all of the countries involved must spend lots of money on their militaries. The Arab muslim countries in the Middle East spend a higher per capita rate on their militaries than the US does, and that takes away money from other things, like social programs.

Israel is a danger for the middle east, since 1948, and, thinking about it, it was a clever chess move to limit the development of the arab world.

[byrd]

Quote:And all of this is recent. It's only been in the last 55 years that this kind of animosity has existed. The Palestinians welcomed the Jews in the 1880s when they first started immigrating to Palestine. They both lived and worked together for about 40 years before the Zionists screwed everything up.

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[byrd]

i was refraining, but i would just like to point out that this is blatant weak propaganda. and im a bit disgusted its posted in here.

but even if this was a legit piece, id have to point something out here. and that is....what did you, or them, or anyone involved in this, think was going to happen? you come in, steal the land from the ppl who lived there, kick them out, send millions to refugee camps, make it so theyhave to wait in lines to get bread, have their water stolen, so now they have to wait in line for that, if they can get any at all....live in under siege on a daily basis...you know i dont see how this situation is much different from the last holocaust. its like jewish ppl had all this horrible shit happen to them during the war, then they turn around and are completely cool with doing it to someone else. its fucking sick. and im not saying all jews living in israel condone this, cuz i know they dont. in fact im sure the majority of jewish ppl who are aware of whats been going on, who are aware of the constant atrocities perpetrated against the ppl who used to live there peacefully, want nothing to do with it.

look at the genocide of the native indian. that took what, 200 yrs to happen? we're seeing the same thing happen to muslims in palestine, happen over a period of 50 yrs!! millions upon millions killed or in refugee camps, while settlements continue to pop up, taking more and more land. and sending more and more palestinians to the camps, or to die.

is it any wonder a palestinian would want to become a martyr? is it any wonder these young Palestinians decided to blow themselves up while they take out some of their enemies? cuz thats what theyve become. it wasnt a choice on the part of the palestinian to hate the jew. or to hate the settlers. this is a result of the 50 yrs of horrible shit they have done to these ppl.
not to mention all the terrorism and false flag attacks that are all being carried out and blamed on muslims. we all know these are false flag operations, purposely done to place blame on muslims, thus creating this christian vs muslim bullshit. they are aware of this just as we are. would you be pissed off as well if some group were doing this type of shit, blowing shit up, and then framing you, and everyone thinks for sure that you did this?

what would any of us do if some outside force came into our neighborhood and did to us what they have been doing to them? you wouldnt do the same thing? actually, one could only hop to have enough balls to blow himself up, in hopes of helping your ppl break free of the suppressing, killing forces that want to kill you and take your land right from under you.


does this movie talk about any of that? does it talk about the horrible shit that has happened to the muslims, perpetrated in the name of jewish ppl? does it talk about why palestinians have a problem with "jewish ppl"? this is propaganda making it seem like muslims are hatred ppl who blame all their problems on the jew. and id expect all of us to know better than to promote shit like this documentary.

[Ognir]

Quote:i was refraining, but i would just like to point out that this is blatant weak propaganda. and im a bit disgusted its posted in here.

Stupid docu inho, thanks Woken

Dude tells girl, but Rubert Murdoch isn't jewish and the girls say "I thought he was"

Bollock, fuck sake, we are not calling him Jewish and he might be, but he is a ZIONIST

Why is that so difficult to understand, huge difference????

Idiot Christians and I'm aiming that mainly at Americans, think that they have to love the jews and israel, complete nonsense, maybe check out what the Popes have written down the centuries and even Martin Luther

A little research goes a long way. Try to think outside the box, I'm always hearing that on truth radio and shit, but does anyone actually do that? I do and the picture becomes very clear

[grell]

Yeah I watched about 10 minutes of this documentary, where they choose the most radical Muslim clerics talking about kill all Jews and all this nonsense and try to make it look like these guys are the spokesmen for all the Muslims in the Middle East, pure propaganda and I agree with byrd and Ognir on this one. I know Woken means well and probably wants to combat some of the racism (and yes there is some) going on in this section of the forum, but tbh propaganda from the other side is not the route to take.

[aaronmann]

yeah that video was pretty hardcore but it is good to at least ackowledge it. good to at least understand what other people are holding as absolute. sad as it may at times be.