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Phil999 · 04-10-2007, 02:20 AM

Sartre didn't mean it that way. He was referring to human stupidity. Although he was political, also active political, he did not know much about the Israel-Arab question I guess. Also geniuses can be stupid.

04-10-2007, 04:51 AM

I've got a shitload of quotes, most of which have been repeated here I'm sure.
I didn't check to see if this quote is mentioned in this thread, because in the past 5 or 6
"quotes topics" I was the only guy to mention it.... over and over and over.

This is MY FAV quote for freedom of all time... written by a US negro slave set free, and personal
confidant to Abe Lincoln.... Frederick Douglas. I only wish I knew personally such great a man.

"This struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters.

Power concedes nothing without demand. It never did and it never will.The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. In the light of these ideas, Negroes will be hunted at the North, and held and flogged at the South so long as they submit to those devilish outrages, and make no resistance, either moral or physical. Men may not get all they pay for in this world; but they must certainly pay for all they get. If we ever get free from the oppressions and wrongs heaped upon us, we must pay for their removal. We must do this by labor, by suffering, by sacrifice, and if needs be, by our lives and the lives of others."

LIVE BY THAT, DIE BY THAT!!!!

There are several quotes of this on the net.... some vary.... this is a compendium, selecting the best.

NOTE: some online quotes have deprecate, some depreciate.... does it matter?

ephilution · 05-19-2007, 08:28 PM

The next quote, according to Michael Tsarion, is to be found in the bible no less:

"The Gentiles, who have not the Bible, do by nature the things contained in the Bible."

This basically renders obsolete the main professed virtue of the Bible as a moral compass. If this statement indeed is included in the bible it must one of the most peculiar quotes I've ever come across. After all, what moral guidebook ever includes statements that renders its own very purpose of existence superfluous?

The quote I've found on online Bibles that seems to be equivalent to this quote is:

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves.

http://www.google.com/search?q=The+Gentile...ed+in+the+Bible

Here's what Michael wrote me in an email correspondence I had with him today:

"hundreds of passages like this have been altered. a look at
the one passage in different bibles confirms this. i am sure
that whatever bible graves was using it said "bible" or "text"
in any case "law" means "torah" - the words are exchangeable
so it does mean bible since the bible was based on the law or
the torah of those using the term "jew."
graves found it in Paul's Epistles to the Romans. I would refer
to his books for the actual statement.
M"

nogooddogooder · 05-19-2007, 08:40 PM

Quote:KILL'EM ALL~ Metallica

J/K

I'm Not :biggrin:

ephilution · 05-20-2007, 07:23 PM

"Resistance is futile" :barf:

That's the predictive programming slogan our decadent socalled leaders want us to believe in. But fuck that, we ain't having that shit.

drummer · 05-21-2007, 12:20 AM

"Those who leech learn.Those who seed teach"

i think gandhi said that,and its still relovent today
what with bit torrent etc :biggrin:

hilly7 · (This post was last modified: 05-21-2007 03:38 AM by hilly7.)

Hosea 4:6: My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men (and women)
to do nothing."
-- Edmund Burke
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I agree with Daniel Webster who said, "There is no nation on earth powerful enough to accomplish our overthrow. Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence. ... I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants... they may be made the dupes of designing men and become the instruments of their own undoing." Daniel Webster
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"There is no nation on earth powerful enough to accomplish our overthrow. Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence. I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men and become the instruments of their own undoing." Daniel Webster
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Ephesians 6:12
'For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities,
against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places.'
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"The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who, in
times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality."
-- Dante Alighieri

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I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do
everything, but I can do something. And because
I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the
something that I can do. What I can do, I should do.
And what I should do, by the grace of God,
I will do."
--- EDWARD EVERETT HALE
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"We are apt to close our eyes against a painful truth."
-- Patrick Henry
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"The exact contrary of what is generally believed
is often the truth."
-- Jean de la Bruyère
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president,
or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt
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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped
in the flag and carrying the cross"
-- Sinclair Lewis
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
-- H. L. Mencken US editor (1880 - 1956)
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"When tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be
in the guise of fighting a foreign foe."
-- James Madison
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We must do what we conceive to be the right thing and not bother our
heads or burden our souls with whether we will be successful. Because
if we dont do the right thing, we will be doing the wrong thing and
we will just be a part of the disease and not a part of the cure."
(E. F. Schumacher - Author of 'Small Is Beautiful'
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"Freedom is best, I tell thee true, of all things to be won. Then never live within the bond of slavery, my son." - William Wallace
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"And remember: amateurs built the ark .. professionals built the Titanic"

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"Count your blessings, not your problems"

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"The worth of our lives comes not in what we do or who we know, but by WHO WE ARE. You are special- Don't EVER forget it."

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"I wish you enough sun to keep your attitude bright no matter how gray the day may appear.
I wish you enough rain to appreciate the sun even more.

I wish you enough happiness to keep your spirit alive and everlasting.

I wish you enough pain so that even the smallest of joys in life may appear bigger.

I wish you enough gain to satisfy your wanting.

I wish you enough loss to appreciate all that you possess.

I wish you enough hellos to get you through the final good-bye."
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"Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
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"When even one American -- who has done
nothing wrong -- is forced by fear to shut his mind and
close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril."
-- Harry S. Truman
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We must do what we conceive to be the right thing and not bother our
heads or burden our souls with whether we will be successful. Because
if we dont do the right thing, we will be doing the wrong thing and
we will just be a part of the disease and not a part of the cure."
(E. F. Schumacher - Author of 'Small Is Beautiful')
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"ALL TRUTH PASSES THROUGH THREE
STAGES. FIRST IT IS RIDICULED, SECOND
IT IS VIOLENTLY OPPOSED, AND THIRD...
IT IS ACCEPTED AS SELF-EVIDENT."
- Arthur Schopenhauer -
German Philosopher, 1788-1860
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"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
-- Howard Zinn
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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when
they do it from religious conviction."
-- Blaise Pascal ~1650 AD
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"People who shut their eyes to reality simply invite their
own destruction."
-- James Baldwin
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"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
-- George Santayana (18631952), U.S. philosopher, poet.
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"How fortunate for leaders, that the masses do not think." - Hitler
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"When the people fear their government, there is Tyranny;
when the government fears the people, there is Liberty."
-- Thomas Jefferson

ephilution · 06-10-2007, 11:43 PM

Winston Churchill is quoted as saying:

"This war is not against Hitler or National Socialism but against the strength of the German people, which is to be smashed once and for all, regardless whether it is in the hands of Hitler or a Jesuit priest." (Emrys Hughes, Winston Churchill, His Career in War and Peace p. 145)

Henry · 06-21-2007, 06:14 AM

From Gandhi, from this article. It's a pro UN article, but the quote is great...

SUCH a meeting was not easily forgotten. The small, bald, wiry man, dressed in a dhoti and leaning on a staff, peered through his spectacles at the 17-year-old schoolboy, who was too abashed to speak. This silly boy wants to go into the army, his father was saying. Mahatma Gandhi did not miss a beat. But that is good! he cried. We need good, educated young officers in the army of free India!

Ognir · (This post was last modified: 07-05-2007 07:33 PM by Ognir.)

Quote:"Anti-Semitism is the mental illness of anti-Semites. It is their escape from the harshness of reality they cannot deal with. The Jews are the scapegoat for the failed and weak, the losers and the cowards. Even if the Jews did not exist, anti-Semites would have invented them."

Jean Paul Sartre

"Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies." ...

Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, recognized that anti-Semitism would further his cause, the creation of a separate state for Jews. To solve the Jewish Question, he maintained "we must, above all, make it an international political issue." Herzl wrote that Zionism offered the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question." In his "Diaries", page 19, Herzl stated "Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies."

~~abracadabra~~ · 07-05-2007, 08:04 PM

And with that you try to claim being a zionist!!!? :-)

Ognir · 07-05-2007, 08:56 PM

Read between the lines and try to understand it
The bullshit is unbelievable

Ognir · (This post was last modified: 07-05-2007 09:00 PM by Ognir.)

For immediate Release: July 9, 2004
Contact person: Rabbi Joseph Dershowitz

Website: TrueTorahJews.org


AN OUTCRY FROM BOLD JEWRY 

Bold Jewry is looking for brave statesmen and open-minded journalists who could help defend us from our tragic enemies, camouflaged as our spokesmen, our defenders and friends: the Zionist so-called "state of Israel" and their sympathizers abroad.


Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, recognized that anti-Semitism would further his cause, the creation of a separate state for Jews. To solve the Jewish Question, he maintained "we must, above all, make it an international political issue." Herzl wrote that Zionism offered the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question." In his "Diaries", page 19, Herzl stated "Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies."


Zionism was supported by the German SS and Gestapo. Hitler himself personally supported Zionism. During the 1930's, in cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. As late as 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized "Kibbutz" training camps over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of "Israel". The Transfer Agreement (which promoted the emigration of German Jews to Palestine) implemented in 1933 and abandoned at the beginning of WWII is an important example of the cooperation between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism. Through this agreement, Hitler's Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930's to support Jewish development in Palestine and further the Zionist goals.


Hitler and the Zionists had a common goal: to create a world Jewish Ghetto as a solution to the Jewish Question.  

The Zionist so-called "World Jewish Congress" declared war on the country of Germany, knowing that it would affect their Jewish brothers residing in that country who would be left without protection. When others tried to help them escape to other countries, the Zionist movement took actions which caused those countries to lock their doors to Jewish immigration (read more in the books, "Perfidy" and "Min Hametzer"). As a result of the Zionist influence five ships of Jewish refugees from Germany arriving in the United States were turned back to the gas chambers. 


The fundamental aim of the Zionist movement has been not to save Jewish lives but to create a "Jewish state" in Palestine.


On December 7, 1938, Ben Gurion, the first head of the Zionist 'state of Israel' declared "If I knew it was possible to save all the children in Germany by taking them to England, and only half of the children by taking them to Eretz Israel, I would choose the second solution. For we must take into account not only the lives of these children but also the history of the people of Israel."


On August 31, 1949, Ben Gurion stated: "Although we have realized our dream of creating a Jewish State, we are only at the beginning. There are still only 900,000 Jews in Israel, whereas the majority of the Jewish people still remains abroad. Our future task is to bring all the Jews to Israel."


Of the two and a half million Jews seeking refuge from the Nazis between 1935 and 1943, less than 9% went to settle in Palestine. The vast majority, 75%, went to the Soviet Union. In the mid-70's, more people emigrated out of 'Israel' than came in. The only surges of immigration to the Zionist state have occurred during anti-Semitic threats and persecution in foreign countries. It follows that for the Zionist state to achieve its goal of a Jewish world ghetto anti-Semitism must be promoted and encouraged, and as we have seen, by acts of violence if necessary.


"To attain its practical objectives, Zionism hopes it will be able to collaborate with a government that is fundamentally hostile to the Jews". "A Holocaust Reader", p. 155.


The use of anti-Semitism as a tool to coerce immigration to the Zionist state continues to the present day:


Prime Minister Sharon has stated that anti-Semitism is on the rise and that the only hope for the safety of Jews is to move to Israel under the protection of the Zionist state. "The best solution to anti-Semitism is immigration to Israel. It is the only place on Earth where Jews can live as Jews," he said. 


Those who continue to call the so-called "state of Israel" the "Jewish State" are not only promoting Zionism which is contrary to the beliefs of true Judaism, but also endorsing the promotion of worldwide anti-Semitism. In doing so they are endangering the lives of traditional Jews and denying their civil liberties and human rights. 


When the British foreign secretary, Arthur Balfour (sponsor of the 1905 Aliens Act to restrict Jewish immigration to the UK), wanted the British government to commit itself to a Jewish homeland in Palestine, his declaration was delayed - not by anti-Semites but by leading figures in the British Jewish community. They included a Jewish member of the cabinet who called Balfour's pro-Zionism "anti-Semitic in result". In contrast, a great statesman like Secretary of State Colin Powell, a supporter of traditional Judaism, has the courage to separate Judaism from Zionism and to acknowledge that speaking out against the actions of the Zionist state is not "anti-Semitism".


We call upon our leaders in Washington to disassociate the actions of the Zionist state from traditional Judaism by no longer referring to "Israel" as the "Jewish State" but as "the Zionist State" and to speak out against the Zionist actions which promote anti-Semitism.


For more information and supporting documentation, visit www.torahtruejews.org

harflimon · 07-05-2007, 09:05 PM

Quote:"I am a Jew. In spite of that, indeed because of that, I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war. This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kasztner, leader of the council which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations . . . I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers . . . Kasztner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.' Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kasztner up in S.S. uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid bargaining end there. Kasztner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine . . .(3)" London Daily Herald, February 1961

Rudolf Vrba, one of the few people to escape Auschwitz,

Jolly Englishman · 07-06-2007, 03:38 AM

This doesn't have to be politcal quotes, right? Good, 'cause I love this man.

Robin Williams:

Quote:1. God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time.

2. You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it.

3. Reality is just a crutch for people who can't cope with drugs.

4. We had gay burglars the other night. They broke in and rearranged the furniture.

5. My God. We've had cloning in the South for years. It's called cousins.

6. Politics: Poli a Latin word meaning many; and "tics" meaning bloodsucking creatures.

7. Never pick a fight with an ugly person, they've got nothing to lose.

8. Do you think God gets stoned? I think so . . . look at the platypus.

9. Cocaine is God's way of saying you're making too much money.

10. If women ran the world we wouldn't have wars, just intense negotiations every 28 days.

11. In England, the police don't have a gun and you don't have a gun. If you commit a crime, the police will say "Stop, or I'll say stop again."

12. Ah...so many pedestrians, so little time...

13. People say satire is dead. It's not dead; it's alive and living in the White House.

14. Ah, yes, divorce ... from the Latin word meaning to rip out a man's genitals through his wallet.

15. Reality: What a concept!

16. I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you.

17. The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying, "Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses." She's got a baseball bat and yelling, "You want a piece of me?"

18. What's right is what's left if you do everything else wrong.

19. Having George W. Bush giving a lecture on business ethics is like having a leper give you a facial, it just doesn't work!

20. We Americans, we're a simple people . . . but piss us off, and we'll bomb your cities.

21. I like my wine like my women -- ready to pass out.

22. The Second Amendment says we have the right to bear arms, not to bear artillery.

23. You'll notice that Bush never speaks when Cheiney is drinking water, check that shit out.

24. When you look at Prince Charles, don't you think that someone in the Royal family knew someone in the Royal family?

25. Cricket is basically baseball on valium.

26. No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change the world.

27. When in doubt, go for the dick joke.

28. You could talk about same-sex marriage, but people who have been married (say) 'It's the same sex all the time.'

29. Spring is nature's way of saying, "Let's party!"

30. We have a president for whom English is a second language. He's like 'We have to get rid of dictators,' but he's pretty much one himself.

31. The only people flying to Europe will be terrorists, so it will be, "Will you be sitting in armed or unarmed?"

32. But only in their dreams can men be truly free It was always thus and always thus will be.

33. Gentiles are people who eat mayonnaise for no reason.

34. Go pump some neurons. Expand your craniums.

35. I'm a very tolerant man, except when it comes to holding a grudge.

36. Im looking for Miss Right, or at least Miss Right Now.

37. Sometimes you've got to specifically go out of your way to get into trouble. It's called fun.

38. Sucking all the marrow out of life doesn't mean choking on the bone.

39. The first time I tried organic wheat bread, I thought I was chewing on roofing material.

40. When the media ask George Bush a question, he answers, 'Can I use a lifeline?'

41. You're still young. Being a true loser takes years of inaptitude.

42. When my friends and I played cowboys and Indians, I was always the Chinese railroad worker.