Ancient African Kings Of India

[synergy777]

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Ancient African Kings Of India

Submitted by Mindwarz on Wed, 2007-03-21 01:13. african ancient civilization india
By Dr. Clyde Winters

Ethiopians have had very intimate relations with Indians. In fact, in antiquity the Ethiopians ruled much of India. These Ethiopians were called the Naga. It was the Naga who created Sanskrit.

A reading of ancient Dravidian literature which dates back to 500 BC, gives us considerable information on the Naga. In Indian tradition the Naga won central India from the Villavar (bowmen) and Minavar (fishermen).

The Naga were great seamen who ruled much of India, Sri Lanka and Burma. To the Aryans they described as half man and snake. The Tamil knew them as warlike people who used the bow and noose.

The earliest mention of the Naga, appear in the Ramayana , they are also mentioned in the Mahabharata. In the Mahabharata we discover that the
Naga had the capital city in the Dekkan, and other cities spread between the Jumna and Ganges as early as 1300 BC. The Dravidian classic, the Chilappathikaran made it clear that the first great kingdom of India was
Naganadu.

The Naga probably came from Kush-Punt/Ethiopia. The Puntites were the greatest sailors of the ancient world. In the Egyptian inscriptions there is mention of the Puntite ports of Outculit, Hamesu and Tekaru, which corresponds to Adulis, Hamasen and Tigre.

In Sumerian text, it is claimed that the Puntites traded with the people of the Indus Valley or Dilmun. According to S.N. Kramer in The Sumerians, part of Punt was probably called Meluhha, and Dilmun was probably the ancient name of the Indus Valley. (Today some scholars maintain that Oman, where we find no ancient cities was Dilmun and the Indus Valley may have been Meluhha).

Ancient Ethiopian traditions support the rule of Puntites or Ethiopians of India. In the Kebra Nagast, we find mention of the Arwe kings who ruled India. The founder of the dynasty was Za Besi Angabo. This dynasty according to the Kebra Nagast began around 1370 BC. These rulers of India and Ethiopia were called Nagas. The Kebra Nagast claims that ” Queen Makeda “had servants and merchants; they traded for her at sea and on land in the Indies and Aswan”. It also says that her son Ebna Hakim or Menelik I, made a campaign in the Indian Sea; the king of India made gifts and donations and prostrated himself before him”. It is also said that Menalik ruled an empire that extended from the rivers of Egypt (Blue Nile) to the west and from the south Shoa to eastern India”, according to the Kebra
Nagast. The Kebra Nagast identification of an eastern Indian empre ruled by
the Naga, corresponds to the Naga colonies in the Dekkan, and on the East
coast between the Kaviri and Vaigai rivers.

The presence of Meluhhaites/ Puntites in India may expain the Greek tradition of Kusites ruling India up to the Ganges. It would also explain the Aryan traditions of Mlechchas ( Sanskrit name for some of the non-Aryan people) as one of the aboriginal groups of India. Many scholars associate the name Mlechchas with Meluhha.

The major Naga tribes were the Maravar, Eyinar, Oliyar, Oviyar, Aru-Valur and Parathavar. The Nagas resisted the invansion of the Cholas. In the Kalittokai IV,1-5, the Naga are described as being “of strong limbs and hardy frames and fierce looking tigers wearing long and curled locks of hair.” The Naga kings of Sri Lanka are mentioned in the: Mahawanso, and are said to have later become Dravidians, as testified to by the names of these people: Naganathan, Nagaratnam, Nagaraja and etc.

The major gift of the Naga to India was the writing system: Nagari. Nagari is the name for the Sanskrit script. Over a hundred years ago Sir William Jones, pointed out that the ancient Ethiopic and Sanskrit writing are one and the same.

William Jones, explained that the Ethiopian origin of Sanskrit was supported by the fact that both writing systems the writing went from left to right and the vowels were annexed to the consonants. Today Eurocentric scholars teach that Indians taught writing to the Ethiopians, yet the name Nagari for Sanskrit betrays the Ethiopia origin of this form of writing. Moreover, it is interesting to note that Sanskrit vowels: a,aa,’,I,u,e,o, virama etc., are in the same order as Geez.

The Ethiopian script has influenced many other writing systems. Y.M. Kobishnor, in the Unesco History of Africa, maintains that Ethiopic was used as the model for Armenian writing, as was many of the Transcaucasian scripts. Dravidian literature indicate that the Naga may have introduced worship of Kali, the Serpent, Murugan and the Sun or Krishna. It is interesting to note that a god called Murugan is worshipped by many people in East Africa.

It is interesting that Krishna, who was associated with the Sun, means Black, this is analogous to the meaning of Khons of the Kushites. Homer, described Hercules as follows: “Black he stood as night his bow uncased, his arrow string for flight”. This mention of arrows identifies the Kushites as warriors who used the bow, a common weapon of the Kushites and the Naga.

Kumarinadu

The Naga or Ethiopians were defeated by Dravidian speaking people from Kumarinadu. Kamarinadu is suppose to have formerly existed as a large Island in the India ocean which connected India with East Africa. This landmass is mentioned in the Silappadikaram, which said that Kamarinadu was made up of seven nadus or regions. The Dravidian scholars Adiyarkunallar and Nachinaar wrote about the ancient principalities of Tamilaham, which existed on Kamarinadu.

Kumarinadu was ruled by the Pandyans/Pandians at Madurai before it
sunk beneath the sea. The greatest king of Kumarinadu was Sengoon.
According to Dravidian scholars the Pandyans worshipped the goddess Kumari Amman. This Amman, probably corresponds to the ancient god Amon of the Kushites.

The Kalittokai 104, makes it clear that after the Pandyans were forced to migrate off their Island home into South India, “to compensate for the area lost to the great waves of the sea, King Pandia without tiresome moved to the other countries and won them. Removing the emblems of tiger (Cholas) and bow (Cheras) he, in their place inscribed his reputed emblem fish (Pandia’s) and valiantly made his enemies bow to him



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http://www.hinduwisdom.info/India_and_Egypt.htm

Peter Von Bohlen (1796-1840) German Indologist, compared India with ancient Egypt. He thought there was a cultural connection between the two in ancient times.

(source: German Indologists: Biographies of Scholars in Indian Studies writing in German - By Valentine Stache-Rosen. p.15-16).

In his book, Empire of the Soul: Some Journeys in India, Paul William Roberts, states:

" Recent research and scholarship make it increasingly possible to believe that the Vedic era was the lost civilization whose legacy the Egyptians and the Indians inherited. There must have been one. There are too many similarities between hieroglyphic texts and Vedic ones, these in turn echoed in somewhat diluted form and a confused fashion by the authors of Babylonian texts and the Old Testament

[drew hempel]

This is fascinating but the original Ethiopian script is from right to left while Ge'ez is left to right. It's considered that therefore Ge'ez came from the Arabs adopting sanskrit vowels and the syllable system of Babylonian.

The original phonetic language of Egyptic -- demotic hieratic -- is considered the oldest phonetic language and interestingly it only uses

LONG VOWELS -- with no short vowels.

That the dravidians came from Puntland makes sense though. But I think the original written language being right -to left signifies a stronger right-brain culture.

The older language gets the more musical it is with Bushmen language being the most sophisticated in terms of tonality.

Somalian is a tonal language for example and the long vowels with no short vowels in the oldest phonetic language show the

emphasis on mantras -- OHM being a long vowel and the heart chakra.

[Phil999]

very interesting, I didn't know about these connections.

Can one of you say more about the Ethiopian religion today, I mean the connection with Jamaica, Zion and all that? Maybe there is something behind in the indo-african connection like it is in the indo-germanic connection.

Thanks for your comments, I'm going to research that further.

[drew hempel]

Here's a good link:

http://www.ancientscripts.com/ethiopic.html

[Shinobi]

Very nice! Well Phil the true jews were black
thats a start :-)

http://danielle-movie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1137

http://religiouscrossroads.tribe.net/threa...b9-79357df761a4

http://yeyeolade.wordpress.com/tag/the-anc...ews-were-black/

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=978549

Oh damn! Those zioinist white pig jews sooooo hate this!
oops excuse me :-)

Real Jews Are Black
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBtPPkz8zaE

http://heateddebate.tribe.net/thread/e968b...ab-3edc255066fb

Remember not to see the white side of things .. ok ? :-)
I know alot of people are conditioned in to thinking that way . . . .

http://blackhistory.tribe.net/thread/fbb1f...85-551ccc85c2e7

http://www.theisraelofgod.com/iogisrael.htm

Dont shoot the messenger, you work out for yourself
what you choose to believe and what you do not
above are links from many sources
it is down to the researcher to make his mind up
not anyone else make up your mind.

Peace.

[Phil999]

Quote:This is fascinating but the original Ethiopian script is from right to left while Ge'ez is left to right. It's considered that therefore Ge'ez came from the Arabs adopting sanskrit vowels and the syllable system of Babylonian.

this site (http://www.ancientscripts.com/ethiopic.html) says otherwise. Maybe there are older and newer script styles?

Quote:Another feature that distinguishes Ethiopic from other Proto-Sinaitic-derived scripts is that it is written from left to right rather than right to left in Hebrew and Arabic. Ethiopic originally followed the right-to-left convention of Semitic scripts, but it switched to a left-to-right direction under influence from Greek.

Well, first of all, thank you all very much for your informations, I appreciate that.

So, the real Israelites and Jews are black. Hmm, very interesting indeed, I'm going to work through the info. However, from the first impression, dealing with jewish questions, there's most always the notion of the chosen people, the sons and daughters of god, which in my opinion has to be taken carefully, whether it is black or white. I mean that I also do not accept a superior black race.

And why is this detail not more discussed in the zionist forum? Frankly, I only know a little bit about that from rastas and other sympathizers of cannabis.

[Phil999]

Quote:Dont shoot the messenger, you work out for yourself
what you choose to believe and what you do not
above are links from many sources
it is down to the researcher to make his mind up
not anyone else make up your mind.

Peace.

past times are always a bit difficult to research, and this topic is very delicate. I will stay critical.

[Shinobi]

Wise Phil :-) do what you feel & must brother
let it be known though, everything is connected
related in some way or form.
I researched this myself with a friend
but that means nothing to you :-)
let you be the judge of your own conclusions & discoveries
Peas & Rice:)

[Phil999]

well one thing is for sure: the doctrine of a chosen people is false in a political or race theoretical way. In a psychological, ethnic way it is understandable that "we are the champions", whoever that "we" is.

If Jesus was black or white is not significant for me. I question his authenticity anyway, so this question is obsolete. What matters much more is the whole thing about the Jews. If today's Jewry consists mainly of non-semitic Khazars, and the real Jews are not recognized and confirmed by the world community, then we have a serious problem. It would lead in a gigantic conspiracy that ruled since many centuries and, more disturbingly, impacted today's politic landscape strongly.

[inahd]

prior to 5000 years ago, all but the most barbaric people were ruled by one king, to whom all other kings were subordinate. geographically if you consider the continental drift india and ethiopia were literally connected once in that way too. we all share a common ancestry within this vedic culture, please see the following website for a look at each culture around the globe in search of our vedic origin: http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/connections/

[synergy777]

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