The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims.

[Starjade]

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[Starjade]

Sorry about the accidentle repeat postie. The computer I was working on threw a wobbly.

Anyways come on Nomad you bragged the brag for Muhammad who claimed these words of the Koran came from God. Explain then how it is that the Sura 4:82 of the Koran states that if any errors are found in the Koran then that is the proof that the Koran does not come from God.

You do realise that affects the word of Muhammad and shows Muhammad to be a liar and a fraud. What is more the claim was these words of the Koran came from the Christians (cough) Angel gabriel. And hahaha is the final revelation. I can understand why Mad Muhammad did not expect the Revelations of Starjade after all Mad Muhammad had flown way too far over the cuckoos nest.

Of course we all Know Muslims give their worship to the pagan moon god hubal al'ilah. However the brag in the Sura 4:82 of the Koran says Sura. 4:82 Do they not consider the Koran with care for if it had come from any other than Allah then surely they would have found much discrepency therein.

Now the actual word Allah means supreme god. And we all know in the western world that the Muslims worship the moon despite their claims otherwsie and we in the western world know that moon is but a rock in space and not a God. So clearly the Sura 4:82 statement cannot mean the moon even though the moon is the god of the Arabs and Muslims. So then by that conclusion we in the western world can say that the Supreme God has to to the Living God of Abraham. After all the Living God is God.

And also face the fact that the Living God sent along the much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade who eats Muslims and Christians for breakfast and with such ease they are but mere crumbs on his breakfast table. So then the God being refered to as the supreme God can only be meaning the Living God and not mad Muhammads luny moony god theory thingy.

Hence as there are staggering amounts of errors found in the Koran too many to be accidentle then it is clear that the Koran in the Sura 4:82 reference admits that it does not come from the Living God of Abraham and of Moses and of the much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday prophet Starjade.

Obviously the only conclusion that can be reached from the claims of the Koran to the even sillier claims of Mad Muhammad that Muhammad is a liar and a fraud who is presumtuous to think he could speak in Gods name and the Koran is something seen as being detestable and blasphemous in the eyes of the Living God.

Mad Muhammad has been caught out in a lie by the very Koran you Muslims idolise every day. Now this has been exposed you Muslims have no choice but to follow islamic law and convert from the Koran because the islamic law I have invooked states that you must accept what is proven to be true and reject what is proven to be false.

Now look closely at all these errors that exist in the Koran and know that there are even more. If you cannot account for all those errors then you will have to accept the conclusion that you have been decieved and Muslims all around the world are misled into idolatry by blasphemous means.

Trust in me for I have been about whiles rocking the pillars of Cyberspace. No Muslim on this Planet is in any position to dispute these many errors that exist in the Koran and I know because I have been amongst the islamic congregations testing your islamic scholars out and everyone of them bit the Dust.

Not being one to blow my own trumpet :D But dont you think it is most clever of me to stand against islam and challenge Islam under that specific islamic law and then Sura 4:82 Challenge the followers of islam. Now that is most clever even if I say so myself. And be sure if there are enemies of islam and they learn from My Revelations then islam world wide is going to seriously bite the Dust and become the most laughed at religion since the moonies. Oh wait a minute yooos lot worship the moon dont you so the Moonies wont be meaning anything to you. So lets say the goonies or whats that star wars thingy that been going about oh yes the Jedi's (sigh) what will they think of next. :rolleyes:

Now anyone who has a tad bit of common sense can see that many errors found in the Koran prove by the Sura 4:82 that it does not come from God and that proves Mad Muhammad is a liar and a fraud. Clearly then Starjade has the whole of islam by the short and curlies and be sure you are not getting off the hook. You Muslims will have to conevrt. Do you weep into your cornflakes just obey islamic law and convert and then just move on. You might like being a Jedi or a Goony ? you never know till you give it a try.

You Muslims should thank me for giving you this illumination for the truth can set you free.

[Starjade]

Imagine if all Muslims converted into becoming Goonies or Jedi's hahaha thats as funny as being a follower of that Captain of the Starship Enterprise. You know that one with the three ears.

[byrd]

you ever get that feeling where your talking loud, but no ones listening?

also:

Quote:Starjade doth say; As a matter of fact Dumbo I happen to be the long awaited Deuteronomy Doomsday prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews

the long awaited Deuteronomy Doomsday prophet says words like "Dumbo"? thats weird.

[horseonwheels]

[Starjade]

Quote:you ever get that feeling where your talking loud, but no ones listening?

also:

Quote:Starjade doth say; As a matter of fact Dumbo I happen to be the long awaited Deuteronomy Doomsday prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews

the long awaited Deuteronomy Doomsday prophet says words like "Dumbo"? thats weird.

Hahaha yes byrd that appears to be so but then when you look at the views you can see that although those Muslims are Kuffar (one who hide the truth) shirkers (those who shirk) it is clear that they are still reading. Besides I have been challenging Muslims on another forum and their moderators got caught by the short and curlies and so they barred my posts from appearing. They forgot they have an internal email system similar to this board and so i contacted their members with a link to this forum explaining how the Muslims here are tooo afraid to step up like men and defend their religion of Islam from the Revelations of Starjade. So who knows they may come here and take on that challenge if not they will apear to read what was said.

It annoys other Muslims when moderators bar my posts as other Muslims do like the religious discussion even if it becomes a flame war. They have their view to put across however, they also cannot speak freely on an Islamic forum. They does tick some Muslims off.

As for you byrd I note you replied as do others and so this thread is far from dead. On other forums this Sura 4:82 challenge started slow then ended with over 7000 views and hundreds of posts and inspired a great interest. Thats how it goes after all those shirky Muslims do have to reflect on what has been said before they dare a reply against unsurmountable odds.

We cannot allow those shirking Muslims to let this Sura 4:82 thread vanish away from sight. So a reply now and then even if it is just a smile laughing at the powerless followers of Islam keeps the thread active and in their faces. Eventually they will have to face the truth and that truth will set them free.

[Starjade]

horseonewheels if ever there was a picture of futre islam you just portrayed it. Empty and desolate but with a telegraph pole giving pretention of communications to other places.

I note that you have not dared to argue upon the points I have made that shows outright that the Koran does not come from God which also proves Muhammad is a liar and a fraud.

I note that Nomad has gone silent after his brags for his idol Mad Muhammad. I note all Muslims have stayed silent not daring to come frowards to try and defend Islam. Clearly they know and you all know that is an impossible thing for them to do in the face of the evidence.

Imagine Salmon Rushdie and those daft cartoons and the fuss Islamic followers make about their religion. But do they moan at the much loved Deuteronomy Prophet Starjade and demand i be put to death hahaha no they run away and behave like Old women with wrinkles. They are powerless against revelation. So spread the word.

Oh by the way Byrdy lighten up Dumbo was a wonderful Elephant I have heard. Big ears and a nose that flaps about in the wind.

Now what was the name of that captain of the Starship Enterprise Mmm you know the one with the three ears. I forget his name. Those Muslims may want to take up worshipping him. I just cannot recall his name.?

[horseonwheels]

Quote:I note that you have not dared to argue upon the points I have made that shows outright that the Koran does not come from God which also proves Muhammad is a liar and a fraud.

its not my place to defend it, and you still havent gone to put your actions where your mouth is. If anything that is evidence that you are a chicken.

[Starjade]

[quote name='horseonwheels' date='Sep 8 2007, 03:19 PM' post='92658']
[quote name='Starjade' post='92612' date='Sep 8 2007, 10:32 AM']
I note that you have not dared to argue upon the points I have made that shows outright that the Koran does not come from God which also proves Muhammad is a liar and a fraud. [/quote]

Quote: Horseonwheels said: it’s not my place to defend it, and you still haven’t gone to put your actions where your mouth is. If anything that is evidence that you are a chicken.

Oh come now horseonwheels you outright went to lengths to brag about the so-called 12 proofs of Muhammad, which I showed, was not proof. You bragged the brag for Islam. So it is the place of all Muslims to defend the Koran and those very silly claims of Muhammad from my Sura 4:82 Revelations.

I always can back my mouth up with such ease that Islamic followers and your leaders should be embarrassed. Already this Sura 4:82 thread has lots of errors that no Muslim on this Planet can give explanation or an account for. The Sura 4:82 states if much discrepancy exists in the Koran then that is the proof that the Koran does not come from God as mad Muhammad has claimed. Hence he is then proven to be a liar and a fraud on many accounts many of which I have already mentioned whiles growing bored with impatience for your Islamic scholars to appear.

There are errors in the Koran many of them and the Living God does not make mistakes so Mad Muhammad is the culprit. And I have not even mentioned the (cough) Angel Gabriel very much of whom Muhammad claimed the words of the Koran came from that Angel Gabriel and that Angel Gabriel is the one who claims Mad Muhammad is that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up.

Clearly in a fit of jealousy over the claims of Jesus Muhammad used that same fabricated Christians Angel Gabriel to fabricate all of his own claims. Just as Muslims changed the tales in the Old Testament claiming that it was Ishmael offered up for sacrifice whiles the Old Testament says it was Isaac now known as Israel.

See there is yet another errors that exists in the Koran. Other Muslims made that mistake to argue over that sacrifice thingy and it was clearly Isaac not Ishmael. Trying to steal away the Old Testament and re invent it in the Koran was a bad mistake.

So I have backed up my mouth and shown many errors and discrepancies in the Koran and in the claims of Mad Muhammad and so now it is you Muslims who had better back up you mouths because Starjade is challenging the whole of Islam and I will not let this matter go. Islamic leaders must apologise to me and admit to the world that the claims of Muhammad are not true. It matters not either way for I have already outright shown that Muhammad is a liar and a fraud and that the Koran does not come from God and so I demand that all Muslims obey the Islamic law that has been invoked in this Sura 4:82 challenge and reject the Koran and those very silly claims of Muhammad.

I have constantly asked you Muslims to go fetch your Islamic scholars and your imams and let us all see them try and defend their Islamic claims. Of course they fear me and my God given Revelations however, the truth will set them free. Their lies and conspiracies about Islam have bitten the dust and you will just have to face that reality.

I point out to you and any Muslim passing by that I am moving closer towards publication of my revelations and so these matters will be more public knowledge. The enemies of Islam are taking notes, as are the Israelites and Hindu’s and Atheists and all others who have crossed swords with Islam in the past. As the words grow Islam will be at the blunt end of a witch-hunt with your enemies casting scorn. I offer you Muslims a way out so take or bite that Dust.

Note that I am openly challenging the whole of Islam and I love these religious conversations especially as inevitably I always win. I prefer to be converting your most hard core wanna cut your head off types of Muslims as they tend to be the most religious. But any Muslim will do as well. The Arabs were my original targets for that conversation but I have never been known for being a patient man when it would be far easier to just let them become stoned to death in earthquake rubble.

I may even just to batter the heads of Islam right in contact the publishers of Salmon Rushdie’s books and offer them a way to get even with Islam after all the fuss you made. But be warned now that it is the world media that you should be most afraid of because if I show my face I shall be demanding that your Islamic scholars stop hiding from me and you will see your imamas bite the dust. Better get them online to appease me now because you do not want my anger to blaze in a more public forum calling you shirking Kuffars with the legs of chickens. My Revelations will leave the followers of Islam devastated and be certain I will not be allowing any of you to shirk away.

Do try and remind yourselves now and then just who it is that I can establish by Deuteronomy law to be. You are not dealing with an ordinary man. And it is obvious already that islam has bitten the Dust. hence the Islamic sound of silence.

[Starjade]

I also see that none of you in a moment of light heartedness discovered who that captain of the Starship Enterprise was who had three ears.

It was Captain Kirk. He had a left ear a right ear and a final frontier:)

[Starjade]

:D I can see you have all lost your sense of humour. Of course for Muslims such jokes must be taboo like in shaving of the beard. One supposes that finding so many staggering amounts of errors in the Koran is plenty enough reason for misery to rain on their parade. That will teach them to go challenging me. :rolleyes:

I have mentioned the Islamic shirk on this forum to other Muslims on other forums where they are also shirking but some show promise to dare venture forwards with replies from their views. Maybe they will come here and show you all how religious debates are done. Or how deeper into the quagmire Islam will sink.

Remember that Islamic law I invoked in the beginnings. There is this law in the religion of Islam that binds all Muslims. The Islamic law says; if you know something that is not true then you must be unafraid and stand up and state it. The matter will then (cough) be discussed. And whatever is found to be false will be (cough) rejected as being false. And whatever is found to be true will be accepted as being true.

Now I have invoked that law and so you Muslims have no right to decline but must discuss these matters.

If you feel that they are beyond you then go fetch your Imams and Islamic scholars and watch as they also bite the Dust. It is already clear from the evidence that I have openly shown, that the Koran DID NOT come from God and that fact makes Muhammad a Liar and a Fraud and presumptuous to think he could speak in Gods name. Now that places the religion of Islam in a very dark place.

Do not tell me a Muslim is religious when they go worshipping the moon and following false gods and false Prophets. Why they are even seen to be ignoring Islamic law in a Kuffar (one who hides the truth) shirk. (those who shirk) Now what kind of Muslim is that. Oh yes the Kuffar shirking kind that act like Old women.

[shZ]

Quote:Remind yourself also that Sunni and Shi Muslims have different Korans because Muhammad did not recall the first statements he made and diligent followers copied his other words that were not the same bringing about several Korans.

LOL, so not only do you talk to yourself, but you also invent your own "facts." LOL, please continue...
:rofl:

[horseonwheels]

Quote:Oh come now horseonwheels you outright went to lengths to brag about the so-called 12 proofs of Muhammad, which I showed, was not proof. You bragged the brag for Islam.

I think you need to go back and read my reply again. If you can make that to be "defend" you need your head examined, or bigger glasses. Now, go put your ass where youtr mouth is, untill you do that youre just a troll ranting on people who dont know any better.

[Starjade]

Quote:

Quote:Remind yourself also that Sunni and Shi Muslims have different Korans because Muhammad did not recall the first statements he made and diligent followers copied his other words that were not the same bringing about several Korans.

LOL, so not only do you talk to yourself, but you also invent your own "facts." LOL, please continue...
:rofl:

Perhaps you do not look into Islamic history but there has been many Korans and one day you Muslim idolisers decided to gather up the Koran that had been written on all kinds of stuff. However Abu al-Qasim Muhammad Ibn Abd Allah Ibn Abd al-Muttalib Ibn Hashim. Who is Mad Muhammad by the way had been telling different tales in his quotes. When it came around to making just one Koran there were arguments as they did not match up. Whiles they tried to destroy the varying Korans fights broke out and have ever since. I have the details of these things on file and shall look them up and post the details for you. Anyways there has been many varying Korans and finally the Sunny and Shia Muslims split over this matter of the Korans differing and have been enemies ever since. Why what did you think was the reason why there are two factions of Islam?

Starjade does not speak to himself but to all the worlds congregations. Those pesky Muslims are shirking and so they need a good poke now and then to get them to grow a backbone and come and face me. I see those shirky Muslims on another web site have not turned up so they also will need niggling.

Still I notice that you Muslims are avoiding speaking regarding those staggering lists of errors found in the Koran. One supposes it is easier to attack the poster then face up to that reality. But you still see before your very eyes many errors found in the Koran and by the Sura 4:82 admission the Koran says the Koran does not come from God and that fact proves Muhammad is a liar and a fraud. Hiding away from the facts does not alter the truth of the statement.

[Starjade]

Quote:'horseonwheels' said; date='Sep 12 2007, 09:22 AM' post='93585'

Quote:starjade said: Oh come now horseonwheels you outright went to lengths to brag about the so-called 12 proofs of Muhammad, which I showed, was not proof. You bragged the brag for Islam.

Quote:'horseonwheels' said; I think you need to go back and read my reply again. If you can make that to be "defend" you need your head examined, or bigger glasses. Now, go put your ass where your mouth is, untill you do that youre just a troll ranting on people who dont know any better.

Starjade says; The 12 proofs of Muhammad is a common propaganda trick used by Muslims. I have replied to those errors again and again. They are not proof of Muhammad. Even the Koran says Muhammad is a fraud. But idolisers never look at the evidence and Muslims are forbidden to debate the issues. Ecept under Islamic law and by the Sura 4:82 of the Koran. But during my being taught the religion of Islam by islamic experts they did bring them to my attention for my response. After all I am something of a world religious authority what with my being established by Deuteronomy law to be that long awaited Deuteronomy Porphet that the Living God promisedc moses he would raise up in the midst of those Jews. So I am bound to know a few things arent I.

Did you read my replies to those so called 12 proofs of Muhammad. right then you know as well as I do that little propaganda 12 so claimed proofs are not proof of anything at all. You Muslims should be ashamed of yourselves. We in the western world do examine such doctrienes you know and not everyone suffers from idol worship.

(cough) Oh horseonwheels' ikins do notice the many staggering amounts of errors that are found in the Koran displayed on these pages. I note you are avoiding them with your islamic buddies. But facts are facts. Think what you may like about me but you still have that problem that the Sura 4:82 of the Koran states clearly do they not consider the Koran with care for if it had come from any other than Allah then surely they would have found much discrepency therein.

Now face those facts that I have found astonishing amounts of errors in the Koran and here I have displayed just a few to allow you Muslims and your (cough) islamic scholars to give accounts for those errors or accept the reality of what the Sura 4:82 states that if errors are found in the Koran then that is the proof that the Koran does not come from God.

The cold reality that follows those error Revelations is that is proof that Muhammad is a proven liar and a fraud. It is inescapable. Nothing any Muslim can do about it but face reality there are errors in the Koran BIG errors and that is open evidence and proof that the Koran does not come from God and that outright proves that Muhammad is a liar and a fraud who is presumptuous to think he could speak in Gods name.

Even if you hated me that does not alter the truths of my statements that you one day will have to face. You should thank me for challenging islam over these issues after all if you are religious people then you would not want to be deceived into following a false prophet and his hahaha pagan moon god hubal al'ilah. Now if the Koran says it does not come from God and admits that fact then how can any of you think you can argue to the otherwise and think that you could stand against the Revelations I have given.

Now go fetch me your imam and Islamic scholars and watch as I eat them for breakfast with such ease it is laughable. Watch as they all bite the Dust and are unable to give that account for those many errors and are not able to defend islam or the Koran or those silly claims of Muhammad. Their usual reaction is the islamic propaganda yackle the 12 proof being one of them whiles all the time avoiding the actual errors that have been posted. Well idolisation is effergy worship and your Golden Calves are ground down to Dust making all the followers of islam powerless against my God given Revelations.

All that bragging the followers of islam do and you built your religion out of a house of paper. Your Koran is worthless and admits it does not come from God proving by the words of the Koran that Muhammad is a liar and a fraud who is presumptuous to think he could speak in Gods name.

And hey though look at how I speak and the flow of my words and the exacting way I grind your golden calves into Dust. If Muhammad was alive today even he would be powerless asgainst me. Even in his death with all he left behind he is still powerless and so are all of his followers.

Go tell them that the Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Doomsday Prophet Starjade says so. And do point out that I can back my mouth up with such ease islam is a mere crumb on my breakfast table.