The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims.
05-03-2007, 01:37 PM
The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims.
Quote:lovelyk you said: Well, first of all, do not call yourself a prophet. You are not one. Secondly, i've studied the religions and established that - Al-Quran, like bible and torah, is from the same divine God, El, Eli, Ella, Allah.
The religious scholar Starjade doth say;
The Koran can be established as not coming from God. I can prove that is a fact. I laugh if you think you can dispute that fact. Try it and see how far you get. Did you forget that I just Sura 4:82d your Islamic ass. You give your worship to the pagan moon god Hubal alilah.
Starjade says: Muhammad worshipped the pagan moon god hubal alilah when he was a child and that is a matter of known Islamic history and so you are again mistaken in your beliefs and you are a Kuffar which as you must surely know means one who hides the truth. All of the Quresh tribe worshipped hubal alilah and even named themselves after that pagan moon god. Many Muslims are trying to excuse away the Islamic worship of hubal alilah but it does not wash away just because a few are persuaded that their moon god is really the living God of Abraham and of Moses.
There are many archaeological finds regarding the pagan moon god going back thousands of years. You cannot hide those facts away as they are all over the middle east. The ordinary man in the street would not be religious enough to examine religious doctrines or histories of religions and presume what a word means without giving it a second glance. So they would believe that Allah is the name of God in Arabic not realizing the Arab would think (at least many who know of hubal alilah that Allah is the short name of Hubal alilah. The pagan moon god. (tee hee) That is most funny thinking of you Muslims worshipping the moon.
The symbol of the pagan moon god Hubal alilah is the crescent moon. The Assyrians, Babylonians, and the Acadians took the word Suen and transformed it into the word Sin as their favourite name for the Moon-god. Sin is a name essentially Sumerian in origin which had been borrowed by the Semites. In ancient Syria and Canna, the Moon-god Sin was usually represented by the moon in its crescent phase. At times, the full moon was placed inside the crescent moon to emphasize all the phases of the moon. The sun-goddess was the wife of Sin and the stars were their daughters. The three daughters, al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat are sometimes depicted together with Allah the Moon-god represented by a crescent moon above them.
For example, Istar was a daughter of Sin. Sacrifices to the Moon-god are described in the Pas Shamra texts. In the Ugaritic texts, the Moon-god was sometimes called Kusuh. In Persia, as well as in Egypt, the Moon-god is depicted on wall murals and on the heads of statues. He was the Judge of men and gods. The Old Testament constantly rebuked the worship of the Moon-god (see: Deut. 4:19;17:3; II Kings. 21:3,5; 23:5; Jer. 8:2; 19:13; Zeph. 1:5, etc.) When Israel fell into idolatry, it was usually the cult of the Moon-god.
Hence to worship in Sin.
When the popularity of the Moon-god waned elsewhere, the Arabs remained true to their conviction that the Moon-god was the greatest of all gods. While they worshipped 360 gods at the Kabah in Mecca, the Moon-god was the chief deity. Mecca was in fact built as a shrine for the Moon-god.
The temple of the Moon-god was active even in the Christian era. Evidence gathered from both North and South Arabia demonstrates that Moon-god worship was clearly active even in Muhammad's day and was still the dominant cult. According to numerous inscriptions, while the name of the Moon-god was Sin, his title was al-ilah, i.e. "the deity," meaning that he was the chief or high god among the gods.
Al-Kindi, one of the early Christian apologists against Islam, pointed out that Islam and its god Allah did not come from the Bible but from the paganism of the Sabeans. They did not worship the God of the Bible but the Moon-god and his daughters al-Uzza, al-Lat and Manat.
The pagan Arabs worshipped the moon-god Allah by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc. Doesnt that sound familiar to you Muslims. Come on we all know you still do those rites every year.
The Quresh tribe into which Muhammad was born was devoted to hubal alilah the moon god, and especially to Allah's three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah. Muhammad simply shortened the name hubal alilah to Allah known today by everyone as the god of the Muslims. Many also know your god is the pagan moon god and be certain that I am also demanding Muslims to account over that issue and telling everyone I meet and so the word is getting about. Go tell your Imam what I say and bring him online. Bring along some Islamic scholars as well for Starjade wants some breakfast even though to me they are but mere crumbs.
Islam has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the pagan moon-god Hubal alilah. As such, it is sheer idolatry and blasphemy and Islam must be rejected because in the eyes of the Living God of Abraham to worship the moon a stone in space it is clearly blasphemy. Yet it seems clear that many Muslims do not realize what they have been doing and this matter must then be brought to account. How can Islam give a true account for this matter? It is rather difficult to ignore or explain away. Denial is futile.
An Allah idol was set up at the Kabah along with all the other idols. The pagans prayed toward Mecca and the Kabah because that is where their gods were stationed. It only made sense to them to face in the direction of their god and then pray. Since the idol of their moon god, Allah, was at Mecca, they prayed toward Mecca. The worship of the moon god extended far beyond the Allah-worship in Arabia. The entire fertile crescent was involved in the worship of the moon.
This, in part, explains the early success of Islam among Arab groups that traditionally had worshiped the moon god. The use of the crescent moon as the symbol for Islam which is placed on the flags of Islamic nations and on the top of mosques and minarets, is a throwback to the days when Allah was worshiped as the moon god in Mecca. While this may come as a surprise to many Christians and others who have wrongly assumed that Allah was simply an Arabic name for the living God of the Bible but then that is what Kuffar Muslims wanted them to believe after all to worship the moon as your god is daft even to a Muslim.
Second point in accordance with Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 law a law brought down by Moses from the living God it can be established that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God.
How Starjade can be established to be a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God. http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chaptertwo.htm
So then no Islamic grunt is in a position to stand against Deuteronomy law which is a law brought down to this earth by the Living God of Moses and of Starjade especially if they are descendants of Abraham. So it is already an established matter that the much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade is without any doubt an established Prophet with a provable connection to the Living God and who has already had a hand in a miracle right here on earth.
Now that is something you cannot say about the false prophets Jesus and Mad Muhammad. They cannot satisfy the Living Gods Deuteronomy laws and be established. They can only be established by Gods Deuteronomy laws as being liars and frauds. And by the way nobody was inviting you to judge that matter whiles we did note you had an opinion.
Quote:lovelyk you said: - I found no such thing as 'error' in Al-Quran, whereas i found countless contradictions in the Gospels.
Starjade says: You as a sheep were not looking for errors whiles you gave your worship to the (tee hee) moon. Nor are you religiously educated enough to see those errors. I will take pleasure showing those errors found in the Koran and already I have named 11 Chapters of the Koran as being errors found in the Koran. Wanna dare try and dispute that fact. Hey why not go fetch your chicken legged Imam and see and see if he can excuse away those many errors found in the Koran. Go bring him online and watch how fast he bites the Dust. Warn him I am formidable.
Quote:lovelyk you said: - Thirdly, while studying the life of prophets and the history of religions, i found that Muhammad indeed was a Prophet of the same God of Jesus and Moses.
Starjade says: Then you did not study deep as you claim. It isd a known fact that Muhammad was of the Quresh tribe and his whole family worshipped the pagan moon god hubal alilah. Your Allah is simply a short name of that pagan moon god Hubal alilah. And Mad Muhammad is not a Prophet nor is he from or sent by God and note as I scoff that he certainly is not that Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up.
In fact according to Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 I am established as being that specific Deuteronomy Prophet and in case you fell asleep I am now the one who is openly challenging Islam and you Muslims keep on biting the Dust. So do stop wasting my Time and go bring your Imam online or at least an Islamic or a religious scholar for standing against me and my Revelations you are way out of your depth. .
Quote:lovelyk you said: like I said, we can spend countless hours arguing about what's right and what's wrong and at the end of the day, we can't convince each other.
Starjade says: I do not need to convince anyone and I let the facts speak for themselves and you are in no position to dispute those facts nor is any follower of moon worshipping Islam. You dare think you would be debating for hours when all along I can destroy the credibility of Islam in a matter of minutes. You are not in a position of power to speak regarding those errors found in the Koran that to this Time before you were not even aware such error existed. You are counting your chickens before they are hatched.
Quote:lovelyk you said: Choosing a Religion is always a personal quest. Some ppl, born muslim or christians, believe in their religions because their parents did. They even don't know their own religion. Talking for the talking sake.
Starjade says: Most Muslims and Christians do not choose their religion it is indoctrinated into them as children and with Islam it continues because of the threat of follow Islam or you will die. Christianity is also a Fraud and I can prove that most easily also. If it was such a personal quest then they would have realised Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 law already establishes that Jesus and Muhammad are frauds. It only needed a bit of common sense.
Quote:lovelyk you said: Its the application, my friend, that will make a christian a christian and a muslim a muslim. If the laws are not known, observed and applied, any religion of a person is simply a baseless, useless ritual and nothing more.
Starjade says: I have already invoked Islamic law on all Muslims here and be certain I will also invoke Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 law. Already you are powerless and I have hardly spoken. Those religious laws are your downfall especially with my being so well versed in those laws. I have you all by the short and curlies which is why Christians and Muslims always bite the Dust when they are faced with my God given Revelations.
Already we can all see you chicken legged Muslims afraid to make a stand like a man to defend your moon worshipping religion and your Koran and claims of mad Muhammad. People will ask what are those Muslims so afraid of when faced with just one man. Why do those Muslims not grow a backbone and defend their religion. Clearly the answer is that you are guilty of Sin and blasphemy and all that Starjade has revealed in his Revelations are all true. So people then will want to know what it is that I have said. Then Islam is on a downward path and (sniff) people will no longer give worship to your Mooon.
Quote:lovelyk you said: I rest my case because i simply do not want to waste my time. Just a word to wise
Starjade says: Your time is not going to be wasted reading my Revelations and you are already shirking before the conversations began. You know already that you are way out of your depth. But hey you poor ikkle fing the much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade did say go fetch your Imama and (cough) Islamic scholars to help you in your Time of need. So ask yourself why is it that you are all alone.
Quote:lovelyk you said: - Donot, under any circumstance, blaspheme the name of the God. Any name of his.
Starjade says; Hey the Living God gave birth to me and is my father. Did I not also mention that I am a son of the Living God as well as the Living Gods Chosen Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet. Oh well I felt no need to brag. If you want to find out about my birth and how that came about then follow the links to the End of Times web site and read of Starjades Journey beyond the Grave.
Quote:lovelyk you said: - Donot call his prophets a liar or use abusive language.
Starjade doth say; I have only ever said that Isaiah was mistaken about his beliefs in unicorns appearing at the End of Times. But hey he was a man who walked around naked for many years looking for signs from God so he is bound to get a bit of stick isnt he after all that behaviour does depict somebody who has flown way over the cuckoos nest.
As for foul language if you Muslims are too chicken to face me that I will call you chickens and that is your fault then that a foul gets mentioned. As for mad Muhammad he is not a prophet from God and the Koran did not come from God and to further add Muhammad married a child when she was 6 years old and was having sex with her when she was 9 years old a horrific event causing the child to loose all of her hair. Now if Muhammad lived in Britain he would be considered to be a paedophile and would be in prison having piss pots thrown over him.
Of course, it then comes to our notice that he was your idol and that makes it all alright in your eyes. How I pity your children whiles you all have minds like that. And by the way whiles you think you can make threats be warned that I am someone who believes if you cut the head off a Demon then that Demon will bother you no more. So do dictate to me and do not make idle threats either. You would not like me when I get angry.
Quote:lovelyk you said: - Get yourself knowledge. Tons of it. From every source, from every book and let the knowledge sink in. Accept it and respect it. Then, my friend, it will give you wisdom and it will give you peace.My Best Wishes Take care
Starjade doth say; I am already something of a religious expert on more than the four major religions existing on this Planet. All religious scholars who stood against me have all bitten the Dust. My knowledge would stagger you and in fact it has already staggered your religious scholars. Do you forget so soon that I am the challenger. Go fetch me your Islamic scholars watch as they find that no matter what their brags they cannot defend the Koran or the claims of Muhammad from my God given revelations.
Already it is clear my religious knowledge far surpasses yours and anyone would be the fool to think otherwise. Go bring me an Islamic scholar and tell them what I have said and warn them that I am not a novice. Watch as they bite the Dust. Watch them brag the brag then see them shirk away to bury their heads in the sand leaving them only one orifice left to talk out of.
The others who did not run away are the ones who were the wise and converted. Obeying Islamic law and rejecting the Koran and the false words and false claims of Muhammad.
There is only one Lord King of the apocalyptic Castle and that is the much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade.
Now I have openly challenged Islam and under Islamic law. Is it going to be said once again that Muslims are shirkers who are too afraid to defend their religion of Islam from the Revelations of the Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade.
You know how people will talk. ?
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The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Starjade - 05-03-2007 01:37 PM
The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Guest - 10-29-2007, 05:14 PM
The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Guest - 11-19-2007, 11:58 AM
The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Guest - 12-03-2007, 02:01 PM
The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Guest - 12-03-2007, 02:39 PM
The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims. - Guest - 12-04-2007, 01:47 PM
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