The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims.
11-26-2007, 02:40 PM (This post was last modified: 11-26-2007 02:44 PM by silkworm.)
The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims.
Silkworm you said: Moslem countries stepping into a new century are faced with mighty Christian forces on one side while looking at a totally different scenario on the economic front, on the other.
Starjade says: Hahaha the Christians are not so mighty as you think. Their Christian beliefs and the New Testament and the false Prophet Jesus bit the Dust long before Islam the Koran and Muhammad did. They are established false prophet worshippers. Look at their churches and the statues within. Tsk Tsk Tsk open graven images. So look upon them in that blasphemous way. They become most small and even smaller at the revelations of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15. Just try and get them to produce actual witness Testimonies for Jesus and their claims soon bite the dust. Mind you so does Islam when you ask for witnesses for Muhammads claims.
Silkworm you said: The theologians of chaotic forces, who are willing to destroy every opponent and able to nail any "Ideology" are busy 24/7 to achieve their goals. The new Christian Doctrine I am talking about is based upon this goal, which is as same as the old British Imperialism, but in a modern 3-D imagery.
Starjade says: Britain is cursed as is its Blasphemous Crown and are the Christians following the English church of England and the Roman Catholics. Be sure vengeance will be mine. Christian theologians are wimps when it comes down to religious discussions. I wiped the floor with many in my past and they could not defend Jesus or Christianity or their false beliefs. I ran circles around them. They are a most boring lot as well with seriously limited conversations. So Christianity has bitten the dust and it just needs that word to be put around. Try to Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 them and demand witnesses for their claims then watch as they shirk. But be wary for Muhammad has no witnesses to his claims either. Send them those theologians to me as I eat all sorts for breakfast and they are mere crumbs on my breakfast table. And you know me by now dont you Silkworm that the Deuteronomy Ch 18 v15/18 Doomsday Prophet Starjade can back up his mouth. So they are no threat at all. But be sure they know I am.
Silkworm you said: THE MOSQUITO OF ISLAM NURTURE/FEED ON THE LAKE OF POVERTY, DESTROY BOTH OF THEM!!!. So, in the coming years, we might see some impoverished economies of Moslem countries be "allowed" to develop in the hope to break their "Ideological spine" once and for all. This sudden wealth, especially for the poor Moslem countries will also "allow" them to indulge in worldly gains, and forget who they are and what are they here for.
Starjade says: Yes capitalism can corrupt a soul. I oft think of those poor countries Islamic or not. Oil makes individuals billions and yet if that oil was spent on a Nation then that Nation would be brought out of the depths of poverty and depravity. Hospitals, schools, a new learning, with growing fields for food and the building of reservoirs to conserve water supplies. Poverty could be abolished peace could be achieved. Much could be done with such wealth creating a new movement,. Those who control those supplies and use it for personal wealth are doing so on the misery of entire countries.
Mind you I think as a King of Kings and they think as ordinary capitalistic men. So one can expect a difference in the ways they would deal with certain matters against the way I would deal with those matters. The point is the change is there for the seeing but as per usual the masses overlook these points for the sake of those capitalistic individuals.
Silkworm you said: This sudden change, reminds me of the Prophecies of Prophet Mohammad pbuh, wherein he said that "the Markets, shops and bazaars will be closer to your dwellings", and "My followers will be looking for people to give them alms, but they will find none".
Starjade says: You cannot establish Muhammad as being a genuine Prophet and I have brought to mention the law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 to back up my mouth on that point. I prefer the saying of Confucius for clips of wisdom. To state the obvious is not Prophecy it is common sense.
Silkworm you said: Of course, the bottom line is, you will be made rich provided you forget who you are, politely means give up your faith !!!
Starjade says: You will become very rich when you stop following the false doctrines of false Prophets and stop following false Gods. The moon can only give you a light in the night sky, high tides and a sleepless night, by its workings on the elementary canal that surrounds your brain. Pretty to look at in wonderments, but it is not something worthy of any worship as your false god. Yet clearly it is what you do.
Silkworm you said: God is great, cry all, but no one acts on it.
Starjade says: I have acted upon it and I challenged the whole of Christianity and Islam and all this planets religious congregations. Of course they are biting the dust but that day is coming when earthquakes shall move lands out of their place and a new world shall be briefly seen. Then it will be a different form of dust that the world wide congregations will be eating.
Hawk you say: ah that is indeed revealing a US flag emblazoned with the Star of David.
Starjade says: I suggest you all take a good long look at the apocalyptic maps on the End of Times web site and you shall see the fate of America and the rest of the world. Those blasphemous Jews were advised to Exodus America and other lands from the four corners of the globe way back in 1995. They seal their own fate by breaking their Covenant with the living God who did advise them, to me they should hearken. So stem your spite and also remind yourself that the Koran was written by Jews as well. All the descendants of Abraham are Jews. The word Jew means a displaced person.
Silkworm you said: You sincerely wanna go deep to find an answer its like "West's Maa'diyat (Materialism) Vs. Islam's Roohaniyat (Spiritualism)", get it???
Starjade says: As you know I am not an ordinary person yet I think I understood what you were saying well. What do you think? By the way I love these little quips you come out with.
Silkworm says: Those who dance are considered to be insane by the ones who can't hear the Music. Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until then you hear them speak.
Silkworm says: Every civilization, nation/country or race capitalize on the weaknesses of others and this has been going on for centuries.
Starjade says: Religious churches have also been doing that for ages.
Silkworm says: Times have changed so as the enemies and the priorities. In the middle ages, the grains dumps were looted and wells were poisoned. Where Moslems historians "ignored to mention " the courage" of Hindu Ranas and Rajpoots, the Christians forget to mention that they slaughtered 40,000 Moslem women and children in Jerusalem in just 2 days, despite of the fact that Geoferry de Boulions extended a pardon to women and children just a day ago.
Starjade says: The followers of Islam have done similar or do you hide your Islamic history and hope others do not notice. There was a Time when the Christians were renowned slavers and butcherer's of men women and Children. Then Islam overtook them and today if a bomb goes off it is not the Christians that people think about in that act or war or evil. But when they retaliate one should also recall from the past of those Christians who have not changed and are those who also committed those atrocities in the past. It is unwise to have provoked such evil for they can become far worse than others as history does tell. Nobody is without sin except for the new born and unknowing child.
Silkworm says: The knights riding on horses were trotting in knee-high blood, now this is a lot of blood we are talking about. So, in turn Moslem historians forgot to mention that this was avenged exactly on the same month and date after 100 years.
Starjade says: And Islam did its share of butchery and bloodshed. Islam was built on follow Islam or die. Muslims also joined Hitlers Nazi S.S. The Koran glorifies Jesus in 11 Chapters of the Koran. The Nazi was formed in memory of the false Prophet Jesus the Nazi-rene. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone then lets cut that mans head off for being a liar. Judge and ye shall be Judged.
Silkworm says: This box of human barbarianism is going to be closed and by the signs showing up, you can tell. We all, Christians Jews or Moslems, have disappointed God, and so we are the loosers. The big fish always swallows the small fish.
Starjade says: So very true Silkworm and look at the big fish the living God sent along to Judge you all. I note as do others that so many are afraid to go swimming in the deep waters where the Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade goes swimming.
Silkworm says: But since this material was not picked up from the Internet and are my personal "assumptions" based on what I read and see, I may be wrong, but the way the things are going in Iraq and would go beyond it, the above topic is presenting a 3-D image.
Starjade says: I was speaking with Muslims about Iraq and Afghanistan over its oil over a year before America and Britain attacked Iraq. People may hate Saddam Hussein but respect a man who managed to control a country and stop that unrest whiles America and Britain are left floundering that task and at great expense for their own countries and country men. To this day they are not keeping peace and after blowing the heads of innocent Iraqi people and their Children then they shall always be meeting resistance. So much for this supposed Islamic union of people it was not apparent. Muslims watch on as other Muslims died.
Starjade says: I advised during those conversations with Muslims over the attack on Iraq one year and more before that invasion event. That they should stop feeding their enemies oil for their war machines and if it was down to that last resort to destroy those oil fields after all they want the oil and it was about nothing else. No oil no reason to invade and no oil means their war machines grind to a halt. They are short of supplies and were desperate. Now they have the oil and the Islamic people are not something any Christian country is going to be considering. They see you as enemies they see you as foe. Their propaganda will blind the eyes of the congregations unlike Arabic TV that let that truth be known.
Westwind you said: Sounds like a new suspense/conspiracy movie. Perhaps the Muslim version of the Davinci Code.
Starjade says: Just because you are paranoid that does not mean they are not out to get you. I laugh at the De Vinci bull code. Jesus is established as being a fraud so all those claims are false. Just like the Turin Shroud was. Christianity is fabricated and based on lies.
Honu you said: It must be the subtropical heat (or maybe the malaria), but I actually think Silkworm may have a point. It really is a brilliant way to break the back of Muslim fundamentalism by making the formerly poor into fat, dumb and happy materialistic slaves to modern comforts. Who needs Allah when you have HBO and Cinemax?
Starjade says: In case you forgot the Islamic church demands tax from its congregations and if thay tax is not paid it is then a debt. So it is a capitalist system. Do not try and say it goes to the poor for there are very poor Muslims in desperate need. All they have is their beliefs to keep them going and that also is false. There are very rich Muslims as well as poor ones so your not looking at the bigger picture. Capitalism is everywhere. Even a beggar will capitalize on pity.
Silkworm you said: Most of the ppl I have come across or had a chance to discuss with in this forum have leaking valves in the brains. They don't "analyze" what is being said and are reluctant or fail to see what is wrong or right, some do intentionally to hide their guilt. (this is not intended towards you however).
Starjade says: I have met those souls world wide also Silkworm and I do analyze things to a depth that few dare even tread. I am always open about my conclusions and facts that others cannot dispute. So I know those Souls and met them even here on this forum as on many other forums around the world. It seems to be a human trait.
Silkworm you said: My topic is in good English while the "reasons", "causes" and visible "motives" are also provided with it. A thinker may see beyond what everybody else can't see. So what do you think of "Globalization", does it only means to hook-up computers around the world and watch the "event" as it unfold? or to watch the "Breaking News" first hand is the only Globalization citizens of the world could think of?
Starjade says: With computers there is communication and without any fear of the threat that would be seen in open confrontations of peoples with different views. Perhaps you forget there is an on coming ever nearing apocalypse. There isnt going to be the world you know of today. There will be mass Extinctions. That is all that is about to unfold. I came from that future and so I know what became of this world and what will be. Did you think you were all going to live forever.
Silkworm you said: Anybody with some brains only needs to read, watch, observe, match and centrifuge all these into brains and come up with events of futuristic importance, paying special attention to what is going on now and what is being said on world level.
Starjade says: In my case Silkworm I came from a whole different future that you will all one day face and it is grim. I do not need to think about it as I saw it with my own eyes. What you people should be doing is hearken to my words for I am the only one writing about that future with common sense.
Your dreams are going to be shattered and you will all be in despair and when you cry out for a Savior you ignore that savior that came to help when I came here with those warnings of that future Time.
Your false Prophets will not save you but will be your stumbling block to those future grave events that caused you all to be praying for help in the first place. Hypocrisy is the word that comes to mind when I look upon your acts and deeds and the ways that you all think. How stupid and shallow can the human mind be when you follow your false Prophets and false Gods and then watch as you and your children all suffer and die in that grim desperation. How I pity you all and your religious ignorance.
Starjade: Howdy, do you remeber that we have had this discussionsomewhere in 2005 in WI forum??? However, I have read the Surah in question, there is nothing wrong.
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