The Sura 4:82 Challenge To All Muslims.

[Starjade]

Quote:Using only the Old Testament that was speaking of other things.
Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. Zechariah 11:12-13 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So, they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. And the Lord said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the Lord. Psalms 7:4 If I have rewarded evil unto him that was at peace with me; (yea, I have delivered him that without cause is mine enemy:) Psalms 24:3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place? Psalms 32:1 Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered. Psalms 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Psalms 22:1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? Psalms 35:3 Draw out also the spear, and stop the way against them that persecute me: say unto my soul, I am thy salvation. Hos.6:2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

Quote:Starjade says; Now there is the story of the Christians fabrication of the crucifixion right there. Stolen from Old Testament quips written originally about other things just as was done with the fabrication of Johns so called apocalypse.

Ooops its make your mind up Time. And those Christians have the gall to say these statements from Mathew Luke Mark and John are all gospel truth when they contradict each others statements. Remind yourself in passing of the millions who died and were tortured and enslaved by the hand of Christians. Do not mock me with Christian blabbery. You can assume that the Christians speak of gospel truth only because they say so but that is a reflection on the stability of your own mind. They tell you of an Angel called Gabriel and without research you simply believe all that they say. The reality is not only did they fabricate the tale of the fabricated Angel Gabriel but they told lies about other things as well. And all of their testimonies stand against the very law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 and onwards that was brought down by Moses from the living God himself. You should be ashamed and Christianity is shamed.

[Starjade]

Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew?

By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22).

On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43).


When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus’ daughter already dead?

Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, “My daughter has just died.”

No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, “My little daughter is at the point of death.”


Did Herod think that Jesus was John the baptist?

Yes (Matthew 14:2; Mark 6:16).

No (Luke 9:9)

Did John the Baptist recognise Jesus before his baptism?

Yes (Matthew 3:13-14).

No (John 1:32, 33).

Did John the Baptist recognise Jesus after his baptism?

Yes (John 1:32, 33).

No (Matthew 11:2).


Did Jesus bear his own cross?

Yes (John 19:17).

No (Matthew 27:31-32).


Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?

Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark 15:37-38).

No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, “Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!” And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46).


Where was Jesus at the sixth hour on the day of the crucifixion?

On the cross (Mark 15:23).

In Pilate’s court (John 19:14).


When Paul was on the road to Damascus he saw a light and heard a voice. Did those who were with him hear the voice?

Yes (Acts 9:7).

No (Acts 22:9).


When Paul saw the light he fell to the ground. Did his travelling companions also fall to the ground?

Yes (Acts 26:14).

No (Acts 9:7).


Did the voice spell out on the spot what Paul’s duties were to be?

Yes (Acts 26:16-18).

No. The voice commanded Paul to go into the city of Damascus and there he will be told what he must do. (Acts 9:7; 22:10).


Who was the tenth disciple of Jesus in the list of twelve?

Thaddaeus (Matthew 10:1-4; Mark 3:13-19).

Judas son of James is the corresponding name in Luke’s gospel (Luke 6:12-16).


Was Jesus crucified on the daytime before the Passover meal or the daytime after?

After (Mark 14:12-17).

Before. Before the feast of the Passover (John 13:1) Judas went out at night (John 13:30). The other disciples thought he was going out to buy supplies to prepare for the Passover meal (John 13:29). When Jesus was arrested, the Jews did not enter Pilate’s judgement hall because they wanted to stay clean to eat the passover (John 18:28). When the judgement was pronounced against Jesus, it was about the sixth hour on the day of Preparation for the Passover (John 19:14).


Did Jesus pray to The Father to prevent the crucifixion?

Yes. (Matthew 26:39; Mark 14:36; Luke 22:42).

No. (John 12:27).


When as claimed Jesus said “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” in what language did he speak?

Hebrew: the words are “Eli, Eli . . . “ (Matthew 27:46).

Aramaic: the words are “Eloi, Eloi . . . “ (Mark 15:34).


Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven?

No (John 3:13).

Yes. “And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven” (2 Kings 2:11).


Was baby Jesus’s life threatened in Jerusalem?

Yes, so Joseph fled with him to Egypt and stayed there until Herod died (Matthew 2:13 - 23).

No. The family fled nowhere. They calmly presented the child at the Jerusalem temple according to the Jewish customs and returned to Galilee (Luke 2:21-40).

There is no historical support for the tale of Herod's murder of those children. In Matthew 2:16, Matthew records that Herod ordered the execution of all children under two years of age in Bethlehem. This event is not recorded in secular history. The Jewish historian Josephus, in his book Antiquities of the Jews, has a long history of Herod and his crimes. The claimed massacre at Bethlehem is not among them.



Starjade concludes: I could continue. But the point being made is just because YOU believe a tale being writ so it might be believed that does not make that tale to be true. If it had been true then why the contradictions that argue against those very words you believe. Hardly a mistake when so many different tales of the same things vary.

You can believe there is a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow but if you ever find that end of the rainbow and dig the ground up then you will be disappointed. But, at least it will give you a hole to bury your head in the sand.

It staggers me when I hear Muslims and Christians brag their brag at just how religiously ignorant they are. Can they not read. Should the Shepherd show the sheep grass on the assumption that they cannot see it for themselves. Well it certainly appears to be so.

In addition, just what are all your religious leaders and scholars doing with their Time? If they are so well read then why is it that they do not mention to you the things that I have shown. Can it be that they also did not notice or is there a great conspiracy of silence going on?

Well now, the Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade is out and about on the loose the cat most certainly is out of the bag.

Another point to mention then is that it is clear that the Testimonies of Mathew Luke Mark and John are hearsay testimonies that do contradict each other and that fact shows their statements are not gospel truth and that they bear false so called witness Testimony that is untrustworthy. Hence, you have no reason at all to trust them. You are being shown by a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the Living God that you have been misguided.

[Starjade]

As for the Sura 4:82 challenge.

Do they not consider the Koran with care for if it had come from any other than Allah then surely they would have found much discrepancy therein?

The name Allah means Supreme God. The actual statement of from Allah then is nothing to do with that pagan moon god hubal al’ilah in this challenge for the moon is a stone in space and not God. The Supreme God then is the Living God of Abraham and of Moses which is the Living God the Living White Sphere that lives beyond the Veil of the Abyss in deep space. Muslims would be the wise not to dare ever argue with me on that matter.

So then as many errors do exist in the Koran then that is the evidence and the proof that the Koran does not come from God and that fact also establishes Muhammad to be a liar and a fraud.

I have already named 11 Chapters of the Koran that glorify Jesus as being the Prophet that Jesus is proclaimed as being which is the very reason Jesus was claimed unjustly to be the King of the Jews. And I have shown you reasons why that claim is established to be a fraud and how the New Testament is a fabricated fraud. And I was being brief for I can show many other errors in the New Testament and the claims of this Angel called Gabriel and of Jesus and the claims of the Christians.

So that is 11 Chapters of errors in the Koran establishing the Koran did not come from God as Muhammad claims. Be certain I have a list of over 500 more errors in the Koran that no Muslim on this Planet can give an account for and so the Koran is done and dusted by Islamic law and the words of the Koran and Mad Muhammad himself. The Islamic law that I have invoked should convert any Muslim even though it was my intent just to convert the descendants of Abraham the Ishmaelites.

Do not think I am just speaking of Christianity of which I have just spoken at length. I have named 11 Chapters of the Koran glorifying Jesus as being the Prophet that Jesus was claiming himself to being to establish those 11 Chapters of the Koran are indeed errors found in the Koran that Mad Muhammad was not the wise to include.

Not that it mattered because with the fabricated angel Gabriel and the claims of mad Muhammad and over 500 more errors found in the Koran, Islam was going to bite the Dust anyway. Perhaps you begin to understand why the religious leaders of Islam and Christianity dare not ever make accusations of Blasphemy against me and why they dare not stand like men to try and defend their religion against the Revelations of the Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade. I am a force to be reckoned with and they already know up front that they are going to bite that Dust.

And you should have heard some of the silly statements about this fabricated Angel Gabriel that their self appointed false prophet mad Muhammad and Koran comes out with. It just defies belief.

Muhammad did not need to climb up any Mountain. He was already flying way over the Cuckoos nest as most sane people can see.

[Starjade]

The Islamic Sound of Silence.

Hello darkness, my old friend.
Those Muslims talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seed while they were bleating
The haunting vision
Starjade has planted in their brain
Still remains
Hence the sound of their silence.

In restless dreams I walked alone.
Down narrow streets of cobblestone.
Thinking of how those Muslims moan.
Neath the halo of a streetlamp.
I turned my collar to the cold and damp.
When my eyes were grabbed
by the flash of the moon light
That split my sides laughing right
Hence the Islamic sound of silence.

And in that naked light I saw
Ten thousand Muslims maybe more.
Muslims shirking without speaking.
Muslims hearing without listening.
To the Revelations that Islamic voices came aware.
And yet not one dare
Disturb the sound of silence.

Fools said I you do not know.
Islam like a cancer grows.
Hear my words that I might teach you.
Take my arms that I might reach you.
The Koran is false and misleading you.
That is why I sura 4:82 d you.
But my words like silent raindrops fell.
Into their Islamic Hell.
And echoed in the wells of silence.

And the Muslims bowed and prayed
To the moon god that they had made.
And the sign flashed out its warning
When they shirk it every morning
The Satanic verses they are spawning
And the sign said
The words of the prophet are written on the subway wall.
And Islam has taken a Sura 4:82 fall.
Hence the Islamic sounds of silence.

[Shinobi]

Wow certainly heating up in here!

[Conspiracy Culture]

hahahaha... this thread is pure jokes.

[Starjade]

Quote:Wow certainly heating up in here!

:P Yeah its the Muslims plan to bore me to death. Did you like the poem though.? I always send it to shirking Muslims as I grow bored waiting or when they shirk away. Not to worry as those pesky Muslims know I can get them anyplace as they are ten a penny. :rolleyes:

[Starjade]

Quote:hahahaha... this thread is pure jokes.

And I am the one doing all the laughing.

[Nyte]

Starjade you are one weird dude.

You like talk to yourself in third person,its interesting

[Starjade]

Quote:Starjade you are one weird dude.

You like talk to yourself in third person,its interesting

:rolleyes: Nah it is simply a matter of distinguishing text. Like he says this and I says that. This way everyone knows precisely who is saying what and in reply. In other forums where text is long it can be hard to keep track of who is saying what to whom. My way of writing keeps the matter clear.

:P Mind you I may as well be writing to myself after all those pesky Muslims are way too afraid to come online and try and defend their islamic religion and the Koran and the silly claims of Mad Muhammad against my God given Revelations. But at least in the eyes of the congregations I am giving a religious education to the masses, or at the least to any eye passing by.

[LeveL]

I am not reading all this topic, but let me just say this:

Both the Koran and the Christian Bible, and any other such book that has
come from centuries ago, is not provable.

Saying "if there's one error in the Koran then its not come from God" is just
insane to me - as far as I am concerned, can you prove ANYTHING the Koran
says? Or the Bible? Why would you even be able to considering that the people
who wrote these books could have just been making it up?

Now, you can say "duh OK LeveL but how do we know Encarta is correct" well
because it will have some thing like "Sears Tower in Chicago is the tallest building
in America" and you could go to Chicago and see that tower, so then you know what
the Encarta said is real! You can't do that with the Koran or Bible. Wheres Noah's Ark?
Wheres ANY of the evidence to support ANY thing it says in ANY of those two books?

To say "if one thing is wrong in the Koran" is just laughable... as far as I am concerned
its ALL not provable. Especially some of the inane tripe thats in the Bible, I have never
read the Koran but I suspect its just more of the same, all unprovable, which is why I
am not a Christian. Sorry but I like my beliefs to be backed up by something other
than heresay and some ancient text that for all we know could have easily just never
happened.

[bando]

Hmmm, and this is a conspiracy how?

[Shinobi]

Starjade reckons he's a prophet Bando

[Starjade]

Quote:Level you say; I am not reading all this topic, but let me just say this: Both the Koran and the Christian Bible, and any other such book that has come from centuries ago, is not provable.

Starjade says; Well hello there Level. Aw come on read it all it’s a good read honest. You are right of course but my point is that these religions of Christianity and Islam are fabricated with the intent to deceive to promote either Jesus or mad Muhammad as being that one singular Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up. And they have been caught out in a serious lie manipulating the congregations with their deceptions. Now that fact can be proven.

Quote:Level you say; Saying "if there's one error in the Koran then its not come from God" is just insane to me - as far as I am concerned, can you prove ANYTHING the Koran
says? Or the Bible? Why would you even be able to considering that the people
who wrote these books could have just been making it up?

Starjade doth sayeth; yes it is mad and silly of mad Muhammad to write in the Sura 4:82 and state that if any errors exist in that book then that is the proof that it did not come from God. Such is the pomposity of Muhammad and Islam. Still errors do exist and that does prove even by the word of the Koran that is does not come from God after all God does not make mistakes like that.

The Old Testament can be established though at least the Prophecy from the living God regarding the arrival of that Deuteronomy Prophet. That’s me the much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade. I have already advised that mass exodus of Jews way back in 1995. Of course their exist the false Prophets and so I am bound to demand accounts from their blasphemous congregations and destroy the credibility of those false pretenders to my throne. How very funny that they were the ones who invited me to have a go and do just that. So I did and they all bit the Dust.

Quote:Level you say; Now, you can say "duh OK LeveL but how do we know Encarta is correct" well because it will have some thing like "Sears Tower in Chicago is the tallest building
in America" and you could go to Chicago and see that tower, so then you know what
the Encarta said is real! You can't do that with the Koran or Bible. Wheres Noah's Ark?
Wheres ANY of the evidence to support ANY thing it says in ANY of those two books?

Starjade doth sayeth; (cough) Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 now that is a statement in the Old Testament. Now go take a look see on the End of Times web site and think of the things I have said. At least you know all of that lot is real and provable.

http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/

Quote:Level you say; To say "if one thing is wrong in the Koran" is just laughable... as far as I am concerned its ALL not provable. Especially some of the inane tripe thats in the Bible, I have never read the Koran but I suspect its just more of the same, all unprovable, which is why I am not a Christian. Sorry but I like my beliefs to be backed up by something other
than heresay and some ancient text that for all we know could have easily just never
happened.

Starjade doth say; The only part of interest to me apart from the hidden things in the Bible is the Exodus as I see that as a way to save the lives of potentially billions. I also need facts not fantasy and belief. But that Exodus is useful even if it is just the Jews belief. It can save their lives. That is most convenient for me who has seen world wide earthquakes and found a way to move millions out of those earthquake zones. So the Exodus plan became a visionary action that has happened in real life. You can be sure that I was and am most serious about that.

[Starjade]

Quote:Hmmm, and this is a conspiracy how?

A conspiracy of silence regarding the arrival of the real prophesied Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up in the midst of the Jews.

And a conspiracy by the Christians and Muslims regarding their wish to keep the lies and deceptions of their religions from being exposed as being deception by that Deuteronomy Prophet. His very existance alone establishes Islam and Christinity to be frauds and Jesus and Muhammad to be frauds.

You would think the arrival of that Chosen one would have trumpets blowing from the four corners of the globe. But alas they did not expect a Deuteronomy Prophet like me nor did they expect my God given Revelations that expose the blasphemy of their religion. And some other stuff too.