Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever.

[jack]

Quote:What is important is to dig deep & understand the connections behind what is happening in our world today-- it is a direct result of people who think they can 'force' the hand of God (bring forth the anit-Christ & Tribulation)......these are the masons, the bankers, the powerful politicians, etc. Everything here on this CT forum is a direct result of powerful people trying to play God.

I'm so tired of kingdom builders, who's kingdom are they trying to build anyway.
I think that God is capable of building a kingdom without us.

[horseonwheels]

Quote:He is the one who will judge you when you die. So, you will be meeting Him someday.

that didnt explain anything. the truth is, yo dont want to answer steright out because you know that it will be, at best, your own pet interpretation and not a bunch of facts that you have readily avaible. And that christians have no general agreement on what, whom or where Jesus is.

[triplesix]

Quote:And I haven't killed a templar, even though I despise them, so I'm not taking any wrap for killing anybody.
Perhaps, some in the past didn't have my restraint. Am I crying about it. NO!!!

You are such a little weirdo, Serial.

It's been quite some time since we've first gone to opposite sides of the fence. Almost immediately after I started discussing religion with you. I've come to notice a pattern.

First off, if someone criticizes Christianity, they are deemed a psychopath.

This is interesting because to you a psychopath is not human, but a soulless devil creation meant to torment believers until the end of the world.

Secondly, if they mention anything about interconnectedness they are OTO Gnostic. And more recently, gay.

If they continue to argue with you they steadily become more sinister and more grandiose. Agents provocateur.

You believe in a literal apocalypse, rapture complete with Jesus coming back. That means that there is a concerted effort among the heathens to cause this rapture. Mostly by destroying the church and provoking God to protect his chosen people. This concerted effort is drugs and rock music. As well as TV and movies. And atheists. And pro-choice libertarians. Illuminati. Whatever.

After a while you quote biblebelievers.org and start blabbering about synarchy and 2012 before just talking crazy talk.

The fact of the matter is: you're predictable. Why are you predictable? Because you have a set, and fully rigid, belief about the way the world works. Being a born again individual who was once quite involved in the occult, this sounds quite in character for you. You are prone to dogmatic mood swings that are quite acute. You appear to have the tendency to throw a significant amount of energy into your currently accepted ethos.

Perhaps now that you have this self awareness about yourself you can use it productively.

Now do me.

Peace and Happy 4:20.

[horseonwheels]

Quote:I think that God is capable of building a kingdom without us.

It did, and is properbly wondering why we chose to live in the ghetto and spook eachother off with crazy talk ..

[jack]

Quote:

Quote:I think that God is capable of building a kingdom without us.

It did, and is properbly wondering why we chose to live in the ghetto and spook eachother off with crazy talk ..

Good one :biggrin:

Quote:What is important is to dig deep & understand the connections behind what is happening in our world today-- it is a direct result of people who think they can 'force' the hand of God (bring forth the anit-Christ & Tribulation)......these are the masons, the bankers, the powerful politicians, etc. Everything here on this CT forum is a direct result of powerful people trying to play God

wanted to bump this quote, it is right on.




btw,
Why don't you guys cut SE some slack, different opinions are one thing, but you guys get so personal with her (& vice versa), no wonder she ends up on the defense. One more thing, I don't think that you all are psychopaths. :wink:

Quote:You are prone to dogmatic mood swings

So are all of us women, hormones ya know.



( Not trying to fight your battles SE, just weary of reading the hostilities. )

[triplesix]

Quote:Not trying to fight your battles SE, just weary of reading the hostilities.

Oh my bad. :cry:

[V13]

"Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever''... Hmmm... ''Is'' established fact. ''Hoax'' defines a lie exists based on the absence of a fact. ''Ever'' the principle truth... If you deny the Spirit, fact has no body to define... Perfection, defined by the Spirit, the Love in agreement with the fact that the body is defined by the Word, is not a hoax, it is an inescapable principle reality. If Jesus is not the Word of God defined as fact, what name defines the word ''is'', Clinton? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL6RCHywcV8

[horseonwheels]

Quote:"Jesus Is Biggest Hoax Ever''... Hmmm... ''Is'' established fact. ''Hoax'' defines a lie exists based on the absence of a fact. ''Ever'' the principle truth... If you deny the Spirit, fact has no body to define... Perfection, defined by the Spirit, the Love in agreement with the fact that the body is defined by the Word, is not a hoax, it is an inescapable principle reality. If Jesus is not the Word of God defined as fact, what name defines the word ''is'', Clinton? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL6RCHywcV8

but there is a mountain of factrs, so what youre doing here is pulling a strawman. ALL the facts however goes against a historical Jesus. And the rest is as per usual, utter nonsense and cultist drivel

[SerialExpLain]

Quote:You are such a little weirdo, Serial.

It's been quite some time since we've first gone to opposite sides of the fence. Almost immediately after I started discussing religion with you. I've come to notice a pattern.

First off, if someone criticizes Christianity, they are deemed a psychopath.

This is interesting because to you a psychopath is not human, but a soulless devil creation meant to torment believers until the end of the world.

Secondly, if they mention anything about interconnectedness they are OTO Gnostic. And more recently, gay.

If they continue to argue with you they steadily become more sinister and more grandiose. Agents provocateur.

You believe in a literal apocalypse, rapture complete with Jesus coming back. That means that there is a concerted effort among the heathens to cause this rapture. Mostly by destroying the church and provoking God to protect his chosen people. This concerted effort is drugs and rock music. As well as TV and movies. And atheists. And pro-choice libertarians. Illuminati. Whatever.

After a while you quote biblebelievers.org and start blabbering about synarchy and 2012 before just talking crazy talk.

The fact of the matter is: you're predictable. Why are you predictable? Because you have a set, and fully rigid, belief about the way the world works. Being a born again individual who was once quite involved in the occult, this sounds quite in character for you. You are prone to dogmatic mood swings that are quite acute. You appear to have the tendency to throw a significant amount of energy into your currently accepted ethos.

Perhaps now that you have this self awareness about yourself you can use it productively.

Now do me.

Peace and Happy 4:20.

Hey, you basically nailed it. BUT! I am predictable because I am being 100% candid. Yes, I am unabashidly Christian. BUT! The reason why I get testy is for the same reason one would get testy over somebody disrespecting a family member, but it is about a million times more intense.

BECAUSE....I do take every last word of the KJV as the absolute end-all WORD OF GOD.

And it is Good News because if you read closely Triplesix, anybody who has not commited the ULTIMATE DIS on the Holy Spirit is okay for all eternity and will live quite a marvelous eternity (to my standards of what I would consider a marvelous eternity).

SO, I have deduced that only the psychopaths are not invited. Why? Because they F*UP this world. It just wouldn't be marvelous for eternity if they were invited to the true end-of-the-world party.

AND....because of this, well division, that is why we have lies and false religions and deceitful wars and
HAARP killing those beloved polar bears, walrus, seals, penguins and radiation and poisons killing us. The UNINVITED are vengeful. But, because they commited the unpardonable sin which I am sure can only be committed by those with absolutely no conscious and, here is the most important part I believe WITH MALICE. There has to be a division time. The Bible exists SO YOU KNOW someone is going to get rid of the sadists for you.

Now for everyone else, no matter what religion or lack of religion you believe - God believes in your trying to find him...hmm? That make sense. If you are trying to find the highest source of love and trying to pass it on to other living beings - that is why there was the New Testament - not to scrap the old but simply to say its cool. It really was about sacrifice. God was sickened by all the sacrifice, so that was the reason for Jesus' incarnation. And perhaps that is when you know you have become Christian because you stop sacrificing to "other gods". But, anyway. Everybody is a sinner. So there is not one person alive -- ever who was ever pure enough to enter heaven without the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. And noone can ever do it by their own will. And no matter how many times you backslide, all is forgiven if you really want it to be forgiven. That is between an individual and God.

Because of all of that, that is why I believe the Bible is 100% acurate. Where else are you going to find the entire story, all the where? when? who? and why? with prophecy and timelines and simply everything you would need to properly navigate life and more importantly a message of HOPE. As, in case you haven't noticed things are rather down hill quite a bit.

HOPE someday all the things that one suffered that made absolutely no sense will not be a factor anymore and everything will make complete sense all of the time. And you get all your dead friends back:).

One other thing, I was really moved by Ann Catherine Emmerich's vision of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane. Medically, you really can sweat blood. The power of seeing and feeling all the sins of every person who ever lived and taking all of that into Himself. Whoa.

So, in light of that. Is it too much for us to show respect, empathize and feel the plight of all those who are suffering and dying each day wrongful deaths by the culmination of evil forces on the planet. It didn't have to be like that. That is why I am a Christian.

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Tripplesix, I will "do" you one day. But to be honest, it has been a while and am rusty on your stylistic
points and I am sure it will be much harder to "do" you because you are no where as near predictable as I am.

Peace and happy 4:20 to you also.

[triplesix]

Wow Serial. That was nice. Predictable, :tongue: , but nice.

It's another 4:20, my thoughts are a bit hazy at this particular moment.

Any follow up is redundant. I think I understand your position, the KJV Christian position. I still disagree, but that's obvious. I suppose I'm pleased it came to this conclusion.

Very civil. Peace.

[triplesix]

Back to the topic, I thought I'd share some of my favourite Jesus quotes with you:

""Think not that I am come to send peace to earth: I come not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in- law against her mother-in-law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Matthew 10:34-37

"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the Kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." Mark 9:47-48

"But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; I say unto you, fear him." Luke 12:5

The idea of Hell, the implantation of the concept of Hell having the possibility to exist. It is the antipodal paradox of both fearing and hoping for an afterlife. Jesus offers hope, but he offers fear as well. Fear of something ingeniously and deviously conspired; an appeal to the most juvenile and primeval instincts of human psychology. Fear of Hell and hope for Heaven. Life and Death become a gamble and everlasting bliss is the jackpot. Odds are you go to Hell.

Jesus is the dealer. But you have to be Christian to play the game.

An ingenious hoax.

This judgment is determined how? By sins? Talk about Big Brother. Santa is watching. You'll get a lump of brimstone when you die if you're bad this lifetime... Juvenile and primitive. Fear of punishment for wrong doings.

Just plain SUPERSTITION.

Hell cannot exist. Here's why. Morality is fundamentally based on empathy. One should not want to do wrong once they are aware that doing wrong causes harm to others. Christian morality replaces that concept with Heaven and Hell. There can be no empathy with Heaven OR Hell.

How is one supposed to enjoy "eternal bliss" in Heaven while, say, their wife, father and one of two sons are burning in Hell for their "sins" while their mother and other son are there in Heaven with him for being Christian? Do you see how absurd that idea becomes? There can be no Heaven if you have any sense of empathy, and if you have no sense of empathy, you can have no chance of going to Heaven.

The whole fucking idea is a paradox built upon nothing except the FEAR that it MAY exist.

Biggest goddamn hoax ever.

[hardboiled11]

Thus the epic battle continues, the beat g oes on !!!!

[mothandrust]

Quote:Hell cannot exist. Here's why. Morality is fundamentally based on empathy. One should not want to do wrong once they are aware that doing wrong causes harm to others. Christian morality replaces that concept with Heaven and Hell. There can be no empathy with Heaven OR Hell.

How is one supposed to enjoy "eternal bliss" in Heaven while, say, their wife, father and one of two sons are burning in Hell for their "sins" while their mother and other son are there in Heaven with him for being Christian? Do you see how absurd that idea becomes? There can be no Heaven if you have any sense of empathy, and if you have no sense of empathy, you can have no chance of going to Heaven.

The whole fucking idea is a paradox built upon nothing except the FEAR that it MAY exist.

nice 666 :-)

i suppose it's hardly worth pointing out that those who promise heaven and threaten hell - i.e. conceptual authority, (given their personal behaviour) have always been the least likely to enter heaven:confused:

[hardboiled11]

Mothandrust who are you to say who goes to this heaven or not and maybe it hasnt occured to you, but a lot of people who truely preach that shit dont even believe in it, in the first place and are sociopaths just using the system, the real bastards lol.

[mothandrust]

Quote:Mothandrust who are you to say who goes to this heaven or not and maybe it hasnt occured to you, but a lot of people who truely preach that shit dont even believe in it, in the first place and are sociopaths just using the system, the real bastards lol.

sorry hbn - that was my point. they can't believe it, as they'd be the last people to get there. heaven is a scam to keep ignorance in line. the plain fact of the matter is, no one knows what is beyond (your) death, anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar.

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i think you should bring back the jones gif to you sig - most amusing