The Native American REAL Holocaust

[RoqEl22]

The Jewish holocaust is spoken of as one of the most brutal experience in mass genocide. Yet, the genocide of the Natives of America was much greater than what occurred in Germany. Over 90 Million Natives were slaughtered using many methods. It seems to me that this was the calling to ascension for the Natives. Does anyone have any knowledgeable information to add to this, i'm researching this subject as we type.

[hilly7]

Depends on what you are looking for and what you already know.

[RoqEl22]

Well I know there was some biological warfare going on, as I believe this was intentional and not by mistake. I know that the Natives believed the men who came to their lands to be the "White" gods that may have been there before and promised their return one day. What I would like to know, or elaborate on is what was the true purpose for this happening. I mean, it seems to me that having an entire civilization nearly wiped out calls to question the orientation of both parties. Did the Native Americans ascend to a new level of reality, are they still on the earth plane in spirit form? These questions may be a topic for another forum. All I want to know is what really occurred, from a different perspective than mine.

[RoqEl22]

I hope tha helped.

[mexika]

Quote:The Jewish holocaust is spoken of as one of the most brutal experience in mass genocide. Yet, the genocide of the Natives of America was much greater than what occurred in Germany. Over 90 Million Natives were slaughtered using many methods. It seems to me that this was the calling to ascension for the Natives. Does anyone have any knowledgeable information to add to this, i'm researching this subject as we type.

actually, it was about 90 million plus those in Mexico, Central America, South America, and Canada. The Genocide still continues in Canada, the United Snakes of Amerikkka, Mexico, Central America, and South America. The Target are

Mexicans, Hopi, Mayan, Aztec, Apache and or anyone who is of Native American ancestry. Native Americans are all those people, human beings who have been on the continent of the western hemisphere since 1492 and thousands of years before Columbus, the genocidal mass murder who saw, infected, and murdered. In total and in the present, up to 140 million native americans have been exterminated by disease, forced vaccinations, mall-nutrition, racism, relocation to reservation in the deserts which in essence are UNITED STATES policy concentration native americans genocide camps. The average life span of a native american in poisoned water and land camps is 40 years. Rampant suicide and alcoholism is part of daily life within the United States Native American camps. Premature births is 40 to 50 percent. Whenever United States government finds resources in relocated native Americans concentration camps, they either poison the water, the land, or make it very difficult for the native people to stay. FBI and undercover government vultures are always hanging around native lands for either, make a profit off the lands, or the casinos. Incidentally, ALL NATIVE AMERICAN CASINOS ARE RUN BY WHITE EUROPEANS. The Bureau of Indian Affairs is a Bureau this is fully corruptible and do not help the native americans one bit. U.S government devils always corrupt those who are in the Burea of Indian Affairs, they are bought and many native Americans know it, many other people do not know the ugly evil politics when it comes to government and native Americans.

To this day, the genocide continues. The devils are always thinking of ways to exterminate native americans in the western hemisphere, a region called America where democracy is brainwashed and people are dead brains who live in the matrix and do not know any historical background to native americans.


But if you like more info the genocide I will introduce you to two books if you care to read them:


1. Year 501, the conquest continues by Chomsky

2. The conquest of the new world, American Holocaust by David E. Stannard

I think those two books are going to open your eyes to the true genocide of native Americans. Just look at what is going on in CAnada, Mexico, Peru, Central America. Full Genocide based on greed, power, lust, and brainwash...

the conquest continues like the titles of those two books spell.

There is a lot more, and yes, spirituality is still part of native Americans and prophecy of those that were and are part of the native American continent says that there is going to be pay back, but I do not know how. I can elaborate, but I rather not, let me just say that what goes around comes around...if you believe in Karma!!


Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNCuXR5hhls

[hilly7]

I think Indians seeing the white settlers as gods is more of a myth. Look to the 1st successful endevor where tribes we always at was with each other and they seem the white man as an allie.

[mexika]

Quote:I think Indians seeing the white settlers as gods is more of a myth. Look to the 1st successful endevor where tribes we always at was with each other and they seem the white man as an allie.

Oh yea...At first everthing was kool but than it got nasty, more settlers came and wanted more land and now the greatest contributions of Native American people is the land, resources, and knowledge of which was
taught to the settlers and of which is never acknowledged by the settlers, although very few do acknowledge, but thats a grain on the beach.


If you want a good example of what happened, take a look at Israel and Palestine!! Israel is not going to stop until they have all the Palestinian lands. The european israel fake jews or zionist jews want the lands around them and they are making sure that the future dies. They have killed many children, women, and their dogs. They are thinking of ways to get the palestinian lands. what happened in 1492 is taking place NOW, in the present, unless you are sleeping under a rock. But not only here in America, its taking place in Africa, again as it is taking place in the western hemisphere, AGAIN!! Same entity, same queen and king, same empire of the past, rome or england. Once again all over again...but this time, they are not only destroying native people, they are destroying and genetically modifying food, the environment, geo-politics, and thought patterns. its conquest of not just a certain region of the world, ITS THE WHOLE FUKN WORLD NOW!!! WAKE UP, KNOW THE PAST TO UNDERSTAND THE PRESENT AND SEE THE FUTURE.

Who might be behind it? Well, same old farts of the lost wicked bats, The Vatican, England, Elites, and the bored rich, none cultured secret societies whose only motive in life is to create misery, chaos, and destruction. They are still here since 1492 and before, and yes, they came from Europe and most are European blood lines bent on creating hell on earth.

Native people were of another thought pattern. The thought of a circular view. Respect for all races, nature, and the planet. Now we have hell on earth because they want to create a hell on earth and not a utopian cultured societies based on mutual respect of each other. The devil wants it all, they do not want to share because their spiritual way is decayed, diseased, and rotten. Their spirit is of demonic purpose. In order co-exist with outer planet beings, first you have to reach an agreement here on this planet, else, the virus must be destroyed because it will infect other beings in other galaxies with disease of which took place in 1492 on earth. I believe Native Americans have ascended beyond child's play, they most likely know other beings from other planets, unlike others who see opportunity for power, exploit, and lust....

[hilly7]

Quote:Well I know there was some biological warfare going on, as I believe this was intentional and not by mistake. I know that the Natives believed the men who came to their lands to be the "White" gods that may have been there before and promised their return one day. What I would like to know, or elaborate on is what was the true purpose for this happening. I mean, it seems to me that having an entire civilization nearly wiped out calls to question the orientation of both parties. Did the Native Americans ascend to a new level of reality, are they still on the earth plane in spirit form? These questions may be a topic for another forum. All I want to know is what really occurred, from a different perspective than mine.

Just my perspective, be it right or wrong, being part white and part red. That makes me a mutt.:DDifferent tribes have different beliefs, most however believed in 1 God, but some had a few. Even those who believed in 1 God had different beliefs. We call them tribes now but actually they were different nations. To think that all Indians were peaceful would be a mistake just as much as to think all were savage. To think that all Indians did not have a power thing like TPTB would be wrong as well. We call them tribes now but actually they were different nations. To think that all Indians were peaceful would be a mistake just as much as to think all were savage. To think that all Indians did not have a power thing like TPTB would be wrong as well. One nations heroes are the opposing nations villains. Up in the New England states there was a chief that saw that white men had more powerful weapons so he conspired with the captain to achieve victory over another tribe.



There were genocidal tendencies then as there are now. To state that these are set to a specific race, color, religion, or species is a false assumption. Yes, there were tribes that were primarily peaceful, but there were fierce ones as well, very much protective of their territory. Cherokee here in the Smokies were different than the ones out west. I can't help but laugh when I see people going to Cherokee, NC and believing that Indians here actually lived in Tee Pees, they didn't. Most Indian societies had 2 chiefs, 1 for peace and the other for war. Bad people were usually culled out by the tribe just as nature culls out weaker minded bad members. That isn't eugenetics like we see practiced, it is a simple matter of letting a Saint Bernard mouth overloading a Chihuahua ass. In others words as it was said when I was young, "There is always someone badder".



Indians were in touch and I think still are with nature than whites, but that has a lot to do with how they are raised. Its kinda like a friend of mine that is black when confronted one time with the why are there so many blacks athletic responded by saying we were bred like cattle for traits, of course we're superior in athleticism. That in no way means they are all civil or athletic, but the odds are greater they will be. Indians are raised more spiritual than whites, that does not mean all Indians are spiritual or that whites can't achieve it. It is all in the rearing of a person. I often see white people though poking fun at or completely turning away from the Creator. Seldom do you see that in Red. You can not in my belief achieve harmony with nature that way. Then again I look at all the Dogma pushed on whites and others and can almost see why. There was room for both when I was young. Perhaps when one can appreciate this one is well on their way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvYIjFtPQEk .


There is still genocide going on of the red man in this country, Canada and many other countries. Here the Indian is few anymore and most are like I am these days, mixed breeds. Having said that though any color and all colors commit genocide. Look at Africa where blacks kill blacks. At the middle east where they kill each other. The white man was savage to the Indian, but the Indian was sometimes savage to the white man as well. There is evil everywhere just as there is good everywhere. It is not a accurate to say that all England is evil or all Europe is evil. Remember we probably started from the African continent, before it was the middle east. From there evil came, but then again, so did mankind. More than likely evil men grew and spread out like a disease. It is only natural for men to want, women usually tell the men when they want too much. Women in most Indian tribes were very important, so much so that when joined (married) the man took the woman's tribe, reverse of today.


There is talk in some tribes of a white man before white men came who walked in peace and preformed miracles. That has gotten twisted these days to Indians thought white men were gods. The Great Spirit also is known by some as The Great White Spirit. Indians were are are more spiritual than religious (dogma). Now I like looking at the spirit world videos but Indians spirits who live by their commandments were not held back here on earth, that is not to say the spirit world doesn't exist, other realms, other dimensions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KszloV7JFAQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gCu-wTrgMs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TChazq0npVQ


I was raised Christian and still consider myself a Christian, back then though, people did not make such a deal or play on words. God (insert whatever name you wish here) was the Supreme being and our father, the only father. The earth was our mother, but we also had a physical mother who gave birth, one called mom or mother, the other called Mother Nature. My kids to this day are not allowed to call me father, I'm dad. Nor am I the master of anything, that title is also taken. There are two forms you see, humans and human beings. You are born human, you work to achieve that status of a human being. When we were kids we always wanted to play the Calvary, when we found out what the Calvary did and the difference between the two, we all wanted to be the Indians. I was asked a while back how I could believe in a Jewish superstition which I found a mixture of feelings. Sadness that one could be deceived by their own, anger that one thinks they know a people they haven't a clue about, hopeless that the world will change, and laughter that someone remains willing ignorant and ignorance is what has led to so many tragic events. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYq1J9frWyc While I do not see everything as Red Elk does, I do see God in that way.


Rather than to say whites, let's just say TPTB because here they were white and brown, over in other lands they were yellow. As TPTB drove Indians back to land they thought unfit, they found later through discoveries and changing technologies that the land they were pushed back to was valuable. Rather than share or take care of anything TPTB want to rule and use. It doesn't matter what the color or nationality, the religion or the region as the coming time will show. I think TPTB are the same race but who knows and really, does it matter since they themselves consider themselves better. To argue it takes two, to fight it only takes one pushing the other.


Here is a video link, short but the 10 Native American Commandments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY3ZEvOfD1w . That by no means detracts from the Christian 10 Commandments, they both work together. It also don't mean that all Indians lived 100% by them.


Some of the more famous genocides: Trail of Tears. I'm part Cherokee so we will start with that one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np-TYoZE5NM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLyBkH4Q2d0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG09ZOkAWBc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoRa-S8mckI

Little Big Horn : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc7fZonjD1M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7NjKaQpEDY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT7TJi2Rk7c


That's not counting how the first to arrive here brought small pox blankets and passed them out to kill many or how they caught young boys and cut off their arms, hanged and burnt (best I remember 7 at a time) on males. There are way many more times and even today it still goes on. I love the movie Thunderheart. Yes these were Europeans and English that done this, but not all, just those that desired power and they were aided by some American Indians. Evil knows no color, nationality, or religion. The only way to defeat it is to unify. We see what does not work, so maybe we should try something new. Whites today owned no slaves. Black alive today were not slaves. The same ones who done past atrocities bloodlines are still committing atrocities, and they do not limit their evil to a color, race, religion, or region.


Indians were not all that passive either. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoRa-S8mckI I repost this one because that is a good one and it is true. When I awake, it is a good day to die or live, that choice is not mine to make. What I do with that day if granted it is mine to make, and one day I will account for my choices.

It is good to know the past, from all sides for then you have the truth somewhere in the middle. It is bad to have hatred in your heart, especially for those who had nothing to do with it.


Well that is probably more than you care to know and again, it is just me.

[hilly7]

This is a fairly new site I signed up for and though I haven't been there much, it looks decent. http://allnationstribestongues.ning.com/

Also if you ever visit Cherokee, NC, pass by the fake dancers and at the base of the mountain, just follow the signs, for a few dollars you can tour the real Cherokee people's village and see the real ways. No glamour, no fakery, just real. It is worth the 5-10 bucks to see.

Pretty cool song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7jW6lj0qgc

My favorite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsTkrmgyV5g:band:

[kevlar]

not to mention australian genocide, or middle east genocide, russian genocide, african genocide. which can all be called a holocaust if you are an attention seeking jew.

the history that is considered as the mainstream history, now i don't think chomsky is considered main stream history, although well known. i mean the history that you leave high school with. if your high school still teaches history... is completely different to what realy happened.

columbus did not find america, not at all, many people had visited the americas before him.

[icosaface]

Columbus and his gang were the advance invasion party. All he discovered was territory which could be stolen because the people occupying it were not organized enough to defend it.

[mexika]

Quote:Columbus and his gang were the advance invasion party. All he discovered was territory which could be stolen because the people occupying it were not organized enough to defend it.

fuk columbus...and the the vatican too and the spanish criminals....

[hilly7]

I'd have to agree with that, especially Columbus.

[Naturalmiztic]

Quote:not to mention australian genocide, or middle east genocide, russian genocide, african genocide. which can all be called a holocaust if you are an attention seeking jew....

Yeah in Australian, Aboriginal peoples were killed in acts mass of genocide during initial colonisation by British in the late 1800's - early to mid 1900's. During the 1940-60's chemical/atomic weapons were tested in "so called" isolated sites, but the Australian government who performed the tests with America knew that Aboriginal people inhabited the area, to this day genetic disorders are more prevalent in these regions, especially rare abnormalities such as, women having three ovaries. But the radioactive particles also spread with atmospheric winds to populated coastal regions as well, were Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people were also affected but less notably or traceably. :angry: Present day there is talk about "safely" disposing of uranium waste in "so-called" isolated areas, even if the government knows where Aboriginal populations are, mainstream Australia doesn't, the government can easily put a spin on it to say there isolated areas. But mainstream Australia also doesn't realise there's a huge underground water basin in the centre of Australia, contaminate that with uranium waste and the whole Australian ecologically would be damaged or destroyed. And Australia may be a long way of other parts of the world, but all ecologically is connected.

[Guest]

Quote:I think Indians seeing the white settlers as gods is more of a myth.

With "fire sticks" that belch fire and speak death? I would tend to think that the natives wouldn't recognise
an advanced technology per se but attribute it to something else. Also the big ships... seeing one of those for the
first time, when the largest craft you'd seen was a birch bark canoe, it would be like seeing the Roman Collesium
for the first time after growing up in a village of single story mud huts.

Of course they because wise, but I'm referring to the first few encounters.