I'm Sick Of Ron Paul Threads

[Infowarrior]

For those who bash Ron Paul do you guys even know what's his position on Israel??? To you hardcore anti-zionists you should love Ron Paul.

[Hei Hu Quan]

Believe it or not I think we all my be on the same page, but differ in tactics and outlook. There's nothing to gain from making enemies of ourselves and engaging in insults. This is also an international forum so many may not be gung ho for Ron Paul or even care because it's an American issue, they might also feel put upon with the number of threads relating to his campaign. I'm just making some benign observations here.

Let's start at some commonalities and work our way from there. Number one, in my opinion Ron Paul is a great galvanizing tool to bring together masses who are either still asleep or awakening. I can't take that away from him and also having watched him speak, he does stick to his guns (I don't understand his position on 9-11 though) and he articulates the desire to eliminate criminal enterprises like the Federal Reserve, IRS and CIA boldly. Who can't support that?

Number two, we must develop some respect for one another and our differences of opinion without heating things to hostile invectives and enmity levels. We lose our strength and cohesiveness by doing so and it makes the forum look petty and disorganised to outsiders. We are all in this together and we can elevate our strengths by transcending emotionalism of personalities and issues. Engaging in discourse with mutual respect and an open mind would serve us all greatly and make us formidable adversaries to the IllumiNazis. Let's turn the guns outwardly instead of inwardly and come together with some ideas on how to fight these bastards and change things for the better. That is after all what we all want, right? We all come from different skillsets, knowledge bases, and motivations so why can't we do it all? Supporting Ron Paul is a good idea that will progress us to a point as will everything else that we are doing to fight back. So it doesn't have to be one road, it can just be different tactics that achieve the same goal of freedom and justice plain and simple.

Number Three, is the system is bloody well thoroughly corrupt and has been for quite some time, so already we are playing a rigged game with a marked deck. That being said, there are ways around it and we have to use them to publicly force their hand into revealing overt criminality they will have to pursue to their fascist goals. Ron Paul is a bus that we can board, but we have to vigilant about when to get off to stay on our course of freedom should he stray or be neutralized. I also think that we need to pay attention to how we can be persuaded so easily to putting a great amount of faith in one man. Cut off the head of the snake and the snake dies, I think is the operating philosophy of mass manipulation and suppression. Plus, putting 100% of your faith into a single individual can readily absolves some of personal responsibility. It's putting your eggs in a single basket, and this is just an open statement not levelled at absolutely anyone in particular. Instead of looking for Superman, be Superman. A mass of faceless, super individuals is a hell of a lot more uncontrollable at the level of fascist control.

Bottom line is we CAN build this if we will it into existence, unify and work together! Work on all our lines synchronised, organised through a myriad of progressive tactics and methods. We are all at different levels and places but we can still surmount and coalesce our power into one mighty unstoppable force. Divide and conquer is still their best PSYOPS weapon against us, so let us gather our intelligence, our commonalities and invincible fire to make this happen and be warrior role model men and women to be emulated.

[Ognir]

Quote:For those who bash Ron Paul do you guys even know what's his position on Israel??? To you hardcore anti-zionists you should love Ron Paul.

How about Fuck you

[FlungPup]

Funny you should say that. I was just listening to a guy that's trying to get "none of the above" put on ballots. If it wins then two people (a man and a woman) are pulled like jury duty to fill the position.

harummph

[Infowarrior]

Quote:

Quote: For those who bash Ron Paul do you guys even know what's his position on Israel??? To you hardcore anti-zionists you should love Ron Paul.

How about Fuck you

Awww what's wrong can't answer my question? Have to act like a tough guy over the internet? :laugh:

[Ognir]

WTF are u on idiot?

Clarify his position on 911 and stop talking shite

And I suppose you think big Ron is going to save you

[shZ]

Quote:I concur, it's time for a bit of a reality check.

Indeed. I'd hate to see conspiracy sheeple flock behind Raul Paul like he's some saviour that will save the world. It's pretty naive to put that much faith in our * cough * democratic process and election procedure to begin with, let alone making Ron Paul the new American messiah/saviour. Please, wake up. You (generic you here) shouldn't be need to be told that if you're "awake" and on ConCen. Although I still encourage supporting Paul, Og defiently has a very valid point consistant with reality and lesson from both history and recent history.

[shZ]

Quote:Here's my solutions:

1 - Push for Ron Paul as it helps to educate the brainwashed
2 - Sympathetic hackers hack the rigged election for RP
3 - Educate Educate Educate the masses
4 - Constantly pressure the MSM to be real journalists
5 - Withdraw ALL the States from the Union (Revolutionary War but 50 states vs. DC)
6 - Everyone march on DC and physically remove these assholes from office
7 - Go Tyler Durden on the banks and credit institutions
8 - Smoke a bowl

I'm just throwing ideas out, so don't go apeshit on me. :biggrin:

I think that we need to not just concentrate ourselves on one battleground, i.e. getting RP elected. We need to muck up their plans in as many ways as possible and on as many fronts as possible. They will lose some momentum putting out hopefully unexpected fires. Working from many different angles both within their game and without increases our chances. Hedging our bets so we have other avenues if one is closed off.
Diversity, flexibility and unpredictability I think are our best weapons. I mean, they sure seem surprised that the internet is having this much of an impact on disseminating real info and waking up the masses. Hopefully some other things will have a greater impact than they expected or possible even catch them wholly by surprise.

So that's my 2.

Haha! Nice post :biggrin:.

[Infowarrior]

Quote:WTF are u on idiot?

Clarify his position on 911 and stop talking shite

And I suppose you think big Ron is going to save you

I said his position on Israel not 9/11. And whats with the hostility? I didn't curse you out or called you names that's what children do.

The Israel Resolution
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul335.html

Quote:Before the U.S. House of Representatives, July 20, 2006

I rise in opposition to this resolution, which I sincerely believe will do more harm than good.

I do agree with the resolution's condemnation of violence. But I am convinced that when we get involved in foreign conflicts and send strong messages, such as this resolution will, it ends up expanding the war rather than diminishing the conflict, and that ultimately comes back to haunt us.

Mr. Speaker, I follow a policy in foreign affairs called non-interventionism. I do not believe we are making the United States more secure when we involve ourselves in conflicts overseas. The Constitution really doesn't authorize us to be the policemen of the world, much less to favor one side over another in foreign conflicts. It is very clear, reading this resolution objectively, that all the terrorists are on one side and all the victims and the innocents are on the other side. I find this unfair, particularly considering the significantly higher number of civilian casualties among Lebanese civilians. I would rather advocate neutrality rather than picking sides, which is what this resolution does.

Some would say that there is no room to talk about neutrality, as if neutrality were a crime. I would suggest there should be room for an open mind to consider another type of policy that may save American lives.

I was in Congress in the early 1980s when the US Marines were sent in to Lebanon, and I came to the Floor before they went, when they went, and before they were killed, arguing my case against getting involved in that conflict.

Ronald Reagan, when he sent the troops in, said he would never turn tail and run. Then, after the Marines were killed, he had a reassessment of the policy. When he wrote his autobiography a few years later after leaving the Presidency, he wrote this.

Perhaps we didn't appreciate fully enough the depth of the hatred and the complexity of the problems that made the Middle East such a jungle. Perhaps the idea of a suicide car bomber committing mass murder to gain instant entry to Paradise was so foreign to our own values and consciousness that it did not create in us the concern for the marines' safety that it should have.

In the weeks immediately after the bombing, I believe the last thing that we should do was turn tail and leave. Yet the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics forced us to rethink our policy there. If there would be some rethinking of policy before our men die, we would be a lot better off. If that policy had changed towards more of a neutral position and neutrality, those 241 marines would be alive today.

It is very easy to criticize the Government of Lebanon for not doing more about Hezbollah. I object to terrorism committed by Hezbollah because I am a strong opponent to all violence on all sides. But I also object to the unreasonable accusations that the Government of Lebanon has not done enough, when we realize that Israel occupied southern Lebanon for 18 years and was not able to neutralize Hezbollah.

Mr. Speaker, There is nothing wrong with considering the fact that we don't have to be involved in every single fight. That was the conclusion that Ronald Reagan came to, and he was not an enemy of Israel. He was a friend of Israel. But he concluded that that is a mess over there. Let me just repeat those words that he used. He said, he came to the conclusion, "The irrationality of Middle Eastern politics forced us to rethink our policy there.'' I believe these words are probably more valid now even than when they were written.

There is a reason why the MSM calls him an anti-semite and it's not because he is a racist..

[Ognir]

Let's say RP is well aware of AIPAC :biggrin: and it's power

But this again only goes to prove my point about Bush being a puppet
and the strings are being pulled by Zionist scumbags.

Even if I started this thread, I still support RP 100% but don't forget to check-out reality

The system needs to be changed

Invite all the politicians to Washington, and the lobbyists and supportors of Israel, the zionists, the christian zionist leaders .... ..... my plan then is a little hazy but a suitcase nuke would be involved:geek:

Then maybe start a fresh, have the FED members rounded up and SHOT for crimes against the people

And for good measure invite DSB along, shit only j/k :biggrin:

[rockclimber]

Does anyone want to vomit? In more ways than one. Zahn is selling Paul? Hmmm

Btw, who is the punk in the middle? I would like to bitch slap that little neocon punk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDnkpTkNXtM

[deathstickboy]

Quote:Does anyone want to vomit? In more ways than one. Zahn is selling Paul? Hmmm

I'd hardly call that selling Ron Paul, more like CNN doing its usual role of being a slightly less psychotic version of Fox, capable of appearing to have reason and consideration for reality, rather than just being another proaganda peice, (at least to people who don't know better).
The neo-con line of "they hate our freedom" only fools complete and utter retards, afterall.

Quote:And for good measure invite DSB along, shit only j/k

LoL!! I don't have a stick big enough to deal with that crowd...:geek:

[standvast]

Quote:Btw, who is the punk in the middle? I would like to bitch slap that little neocon punk.

i really don't like violence, but this kid needs a serious smack in the dome.

[hardboiled11]

lolz ro-und 1NE Fight!

[TeslaandLyne]

I can't say what RP knows about 9/11 truth or his backing.

I was thinking about how to use 9/11 to win the campaign, got to be BOLD.

Say he is at the podium and behind him is a video WTC buildings falling down,
Rosie asking why (well no sound but the message is there) all the various Google
and YouTube stuff and then of to the side just image of Bush with the war going on
behind him.

War on the WTC bad guys or on some country we could take over again and again if we
wanted to.

Let the voters decide.

It don't mean you will win either war. As in Fahrenheit 9/11, no one fights the bad at home
so we go fight somewhere else which is bad.