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mothandrust · 07-22-2007, 01:13 PM

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Quote:as per usual SE, you address none of my points and descend to your usual tactic of insults and name calling to deflect from the obvious conclusion that you can't.

worse even (at least for a bible bashing Christian), is your continued and deliberate misquoting of the bible -
may God forgive you

My conscience is clear Moth & Rust, but then again, I am cognizant of the need for a conscience.

Your tactics are most apparent all throughout this thread and anywear Moth & Rust and all that corrupts and destroys follows.

a clear conscience is of course a classic trait of psychopaths - but lets give you the benefit of the doubt and put it down to ignorance.

here is the passage you are misquoting:

Quote:Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal; but store up for yourselves treasures in heaven... For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. (Matthew 6:19-21)

moth and rust destroys your little man-made trinkets - like dresses and cars - NOT God's gifts

~~SerialExpLain~~ · (This post was last modified: 07-22-2007 03:03 PM by SerialExpLain.)

Quote:a clear conscience is of course a classic trait of psychopaths - but lets give you the benefit of the doubt and put it down to ignorance.

HA! Rich stuff here M&R, truly.

A clear conscience IS OF COURSE a classic trait of psychopaths - - Whaaaaaa???:crazy:

A LACK of conscience is the essence of what a psychopath is.

(In regards to myself here is a little revelation for you to put your insinuation to sleep. I spend my time digging up dirt to disseminate to the mine, hoping that someone somewhere can avert real disasters and try to spread a little truth to mankind before it is too late. I do nothing that is SELF serving, WILFULL, duplicitous, do not have a criminal record whatsoever. I do not lie. Have never had a narcissistic rage...why?....because I am not a narcissist that's why. Furthermore, I do not have a problem with the KJV and ALL of its contents.)

Quote:here is the passage you are misquoting

Naw, I'll leave that to the Gnostic Christians. So a good Gnostic Christian like you was caught rooting in the KJV when it suits YOUR WILL, haha.

What did I extract from that passage not to your liking, hmmm.

Now remember, you even argue the efficacy of locking doors to dwellings...

Matthew 6:19-21 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

19Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Matthew 6:19-21 (New International Version - UK)
Treasures in Heaven
19 Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.

21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Moth & Rust = destroy
Moth & Rust = corrupt

So since you are big on symbols....not labels, but symbols well you like those. When your avatar shows up on a thread that I am on, well I certainly experience that destructive and corruptive power, lol.

Now about that treasure and where your heart will be: Do you believe Jesus was the only begotten Son of God born of a virgin birth? Do you believe in the division time of the tare and the wheat? Do you believe in what Jesus says evil is? Do you believe in the final judgement: Left hand and right hand. Goats and sheep? Wheat and tares? Because if you don't then to masquerade as a Christian is well..... you know what it is, it is a manifestation of YOUR WILL. Then perhaps you are that Jackass you had stated that "maybe" you were, because I see Gnostics as a force breaking in to steal, so that passage is extremely relevant.

Anyhoo:

Here's a song for you grrrl....or guy, or girl....WHATEVA!!

Dig that Moth attack and those lyrics, lol

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=77...h&plindex=0

standvast · (This post was last modified: 07-22-2007 07:21 PM by standvast.)

Quote:A clear conscience IS OF COURSE a classic trait of psychopaths - - Whaaaaaa??? crazy.gif

A LACK of conscience is the essence of what a psychopath is.

A psychopath lacks scrutiny of his/her own conscience, and is thus often not capable of
having feelings of empathy. If one has no discernment of ones own conciousness, than
that conscience stays "clear" , as it is not observed or criticized by the psychopath.

People who think they are allways right , also have a clear conscience,
they keep their conscience clear by not self-reflecting upon their words/actions.
Psychopaths and dogmatic thinkers have in common that they do not [are unable to]
consider that their perspective, or reality tunnel, or perception....are fallible ,
and do not in any way or form amount to more than a personal truth ,perspective, or reality.

Quote:Matthew 6:19-21 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

19Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Moths eat through the emperors garments, through the veiling drapes, and
the layers of fur coat that dress up the true treasures of this world.
Rust consumes matter, it eats away at the sensory illusions that are percieved
to be so dense and vast that they "are real"..to get at the real treasure.
Moth and Rust work to reveal what is beneath the clutter,
It "corrupts" the fabric of the material world., to [help] find that which transcends it,
which , is the true essence of life, and the treasure of heaven [which is within].
Thieves break through the physical doors you say you keep locked , SE,
thieves dress up in the finest riches, which the moth eats away at,
thieves steal gold, the scum of this earth, which the metaphoric Rust eats away at,
Moth and Rust eat at the illusory world , the earth/worldly riches, the masks , not the spirit or
the treasure of heaven which is [in] the heart and soul, where no thief can reach.

peace'

~~SerialExpLain~~ · (This post was last modified: 07-22-2007 07:14 PM by SerialExpLain.)

A psychopath is a moral imbecile and does not differentiate between true and false. A psychopath left to their own devices is always doing evil. To illustrate what a psychopath is, all you have to do is define a good Satanist. Anton LeVay stated repeatedly, Satanists are born not made.

The illusionary world, oh, Standvast...The 3D world. And I am not talking about a moth & rust on any old thread I am talking about the Gnostic, psychopath defender when it suits her/his needs and acquser of when it suits his/her needs.

A psychopath always thinks they are right and are dogmatic - well dogmatically defending Gnosticism and the OCCULT is pretty base considering YOU KNOW THE HISTORY and YOU KNOW THE INTENTIONS and YOU KNOW THE CONSPIRACY.

Standvast here to stand up for Moth and Rust what else is new, yawn. What would occult-gnostic-chaos magic-masons-rosicrusians-druids-luciferians-satanists-oto-tos and any other I forgot, do without their little army to follow them around defending them all the time.

This is the video in question:

THIS IS A PSYCHOPATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anakin Psychopath

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-8Ls0IzpZw...ted&search=

You just can't sanitize Satan's occult Standvast, sorry. And you can't rewrite what a psychopath is or isn't either.

standvast · 07-22-2007, 07:17 PM

Quote:Standvast here to stand up for Moth and Rust what else is new, yawn.

This ain't about the person this is about me pointing out my perspective for you to reflect on.
I'd stand up , and stand vast "for you" as you percieve me to now stand up "for M&R"
but in fact , i'm just standing. on my own.

Quote:This is the video in question:

THIS IS A PSYCHOPATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anakin Psychopath

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-8Ls0Izp...ed&search=

no it is not, i'm not refering to any video, i'm giving you my perspective on what the
Moth , the Rust, the thieves, and the treasure of heaven mean in the Bible verse.
please, take it for what it is or leave it, but dont pretend like M&R and me are one and the same.

Quote:You just can't sanitize Satan's occult Standvast, sorry.

Ok , then in reciprocation, i also can not defile/blaspheme/go against the true path of the spirit , Serialexplain. :wink:

peace'

~~SerialExpLain~~ · 07-22-2007, 07:26 PM

Well, then you best not be defending the spirit of the psychopath then Standvast, because THAT is not the true path of the HOLY SPIRIT which I am defending.

Heaven is when God gets you there, not an illusionary world for one to overcome with the occult. That is a delusion. Until you die, this is the world where you deal with moth and rust.

That scripture is just providing hope that the battle against moth and rust, and the battle against sheep and goats and the battle against wheat and tares will not go on infinitely but will blessedly END!

And if you want to truly comment on what a psychopath is, then comment on the excellent video and not make extraneous comments of "your" impressions of it, because THE impressions of it are pretty well defined.

standvast · (This post was last modified: 07-22-2007 07:44 PM by standvast.)

Quote:Well, then you best not be defending the spirit of the psychopath then Standvast, because THAT is not the true path of the HOLY SPIRIT which I am defending.

I don't know what you are on about,
my comment was about the bible verse, has nothing to do with psychopaths.

Quote:Heaven is when God gets you there, not an illusionary world for one to overcome with the occult. That is a delusion. Until you die, this is the world where you deal with moth and rust.

Stop preaching to me, you know nothing for certain, and the certainty
with which you state your little mental concoqtions as fact illustrates you are
either unaware of doing it, or to big to admit it. you shape your world :biggrin: scary huh?

Quote:That scripture is just providing hope that the battle against moth and rust, and the battle against sheep and goats and the battle against wheat and tares will not go on infinitely but will blessedly END!

battle battle,war war war ... what would you ever do without a percieved enemy to fight ?
-to surpass the conflict is to end it.

Quote:And if you want to truly comment on what a psychopath is, then comment on the excellent video and not make extraneous comments of "your" impressions of it, because THE impressions of it are pretty well defined.

there are no THE impressions, stop fooling yourself.
Impressions are inherent to sensory beings being impressed, and they tend to differ
which leaves us not with "THE" , but with a whole lot of complementary possible A's.. :wink:

peace'

~~SerialExpLain~~ · (This post was last modified: 07-22-2007 08:04 PM by SerialExpLain.)

Quote:Stop preaching to me, you know nothing for certain, and the certainty
with which you state your little mental concoqtions as fact illustrates you are
either unaware of doing it, or to big to admit it. you shape your world scary huh?

Standvast, just go oooh and awe over some 2012 pics, your societies will all get you out of this world and you'll see where your arrogant asses go, but in the meantime, just because the money is backing all your occult shit, don't be so smug, because you just can't destroy a world to get anywhere good and you know that is what the same people promising your 2012 wormhole for the "spread legged winged ascension" are doing.:smirk:

There is a battle because the conspiracy is an occult conspiracy, so when someone not involved in the conspiracy goes on any board to talk about the conspiracy they are met with the very same ones causing the conspiracy.

That is the battle. And that is just what the Bible said it would be A BATTLE!!

standvast · (This post was last modified: 07-22-2007 08:15 PM by standvast.)

Quote:Standvast, just go oooh and awe over some 2012 pics,

No i would rather adress the difference in how you and me interpret
that Bible verse about the Moth and the Rust,.. that is what i responded to you for.
I really think you are misjudging people, probably offhand with book in hand in a sense, but
even when they go to length to explain themselves to you, you categorize them , label them , dismiss them .

Quote:your societies will all get you out of this world and you'll see where your arrogant asses go, but in the meantime. Just because the money is backing all your occult shit, don't be so smug, because you just can't destroy a world to get anywhere good and you know that is what the same people promising your 2012 wormhole for the "spread legged winged ascension" are doing.

que? :clueless:

I don't go by a society , i'm not attempting to leave this world/plane,
My version of occult has allways been financially poor and spiritually rich,
i'm attempting to keep this world from being destroyed, but am no saviour of more than Self.
2012 frankly doesn't mean any more to me than the millenium bug does,
i'm not impressed allthough the calendar and
the culture it stems from i find interesting. "spread legged winged ascension" ``~does not compute.

Quote:There is a battle because the conspiracy is an occult conspiracy, so when someone not involved in the conspiracy goes on any board to talk about the conspiracy they are met with the very same ones causing the conspiracy.

That is the battle. And that is just what the Bible said it would be A BATTLE!!

Well then live up to your word and book , slay the infidels , little Faux Christian crusader,
pick up your sword, follow your lord, hew them down "with fair judgement", or let your God sort them out.
be a good sheep and and fight a war that exist only in your mind because words in a book said so.:sad:

Peace' :smile:

~~SerialExpLain~~ · (This post was last modified: 07-22-2007 08:44 PM by SerialExpLain.)

Oh yeah, I am SO glad you said que?

Because lets talk about que? I have the answer to that question.

Kay Griggs!

Anyone at all involved in the occult is not satisfied with what God gives them freely. That is why they are called occult seekers. And please don't throw it back at me that I don't know what I am talking about.

Listen to who and what are financing and facilitating the occult agendas and then if you do not believe in a Great White Lodge on Sirius or think of yourself as of a serpent lineage or kumara, or think of God as having a rooster head, (and you know when I was involved in Santeria, I never understood why Osun was placed above the other orishas, but the concept of Abraxas really was revelatory for me. That is how pervasive it is in all cultures.) then ask yourself why are societies inundated with obvious occult agendas -- it is because all the MONEY is backing it. And it can all be traced back to its source. So if you don't think of yourself as a serpent or kumara, then the occult holds nothing for you. And if you do, that is a totally different story.

The financiers of the whole agenda do not have a problem with the KJV; they INTENTIONALLY are in opposition to the contents.

Michael Heiser, Ph.D. is the only person on the internet that can thoroughly explain the whys and wherefores that I have seen, but he does and very very well. His AOD vid is excellent.

But on to Kay Griggs. These are the monsters that are forcefeeding the occult to everyone. It is how WE all got involved in it because conspirators placed it in our paths. You were never intended to worship anything created including self. The glory was only ever meant to be given to the Creator. The Gnostics and Rosicrusions have a stated purpose of genocide, i.e. The Georgia Guidestones. If that isn't Nazi, I don't know what is. And 2012 has been long awaited and just BELIEVE it is not a natural occurrence, because it isn't. It is being facilitated. A facilitated ascension, c'mon.

But now, on to Kay Griggs because to understand what she says is to understand what happened to us all.

http://www.gaiaguys.net/kaygriggstalks.htm

standvast · 07-22-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:Anyone at all involved in the occult is not satisfied with what God gives them freely. That is why they are called occult seekers. And please don't throw it back at me that I don't know what I am talking about.

God is occult, god is not known to humans, they just babble about god to justify themselves,
and all the while while doing it, they do not realise they are really talking about their true Self in third person.
Humans project to make sense of the worlds/planes/heavens, but everything they come up with
is inherent to their dispositions and perceptions. humans define "god", god never autonimously
defined itself as a seperate being either.

You don't know what you're talking about? yes that's how it seems to me.
you have a very personal view of occult, my idea of it is different.

Quote:Listen to who and what are financing and facilitating the occult agendas and then if you do not believe in Great White Lodge on Sirius or think of yourself as of a serpent lineage or kumara, or think of God as having a rooster head, and you know when I was involved in Santeria, I never understood why Osun was placed above the other orishas, but the concept of Abraxas really was revelatory for me. That is how pervasive it is in all cultures.

Occult, secrets, advanced knowledge,..
It's pervasive in all cultures, that's what we agree on, WHY do you think that is?
Because it is very inherent to humans growing conceptualisations of their relation to everything.
what is so revelatory about Abraxas? no i don't believe in gods with chickenhawkheads.

Quote:You were never intended to worship anything created including self.

Spirit is neither created nor destroyed. True self = spirit. eternal.God.

Save KayGriggs and Heiser for now, ..

peace'

~~SerialExpLain~~ · (This post was last modified: 07-22-2007 09:13 PM by SerialExpLain.)

No, Standvast. Read the KJV Bible or any paraphrased Bible for speed. What is happening in the world can only be described with the acuracy that is there and no where else. Prophecy! Time is not linear, and the entire story start to finish is contained therein.

If the emphasis is on self, right there it is over.

Don't save Kay Griggs or Michael Heiser for later. That is what is important. There lies truth and not disinformation.

Peace, and I have to log now, so mull over what Kay Griggs and Michael Heiser have to say because, since this is a conspiracy board, you do want to be apprised of WHAT THE FREAKIN CONSPIRACY IS....
Don't you? Still don't think it is an occult agenda/conspiracy...throw in some Michael Aquino, but then also make sure to include Aleister Crowley, Blavatsky, Bailey, Francis Bacon - New Atlantis - (really now, he details the entire agenda and how to facilitate everything right in that document)

So where lies the mind control and disinfo? That is easy to extrapolate now isn't it.

THE CABALA THAT ATE THE WHOLE WORLD!!

deathstickboy · (This post was last modified: 07-22-2007 10:19 PM by deathstickboy.)

Quote:What is happening in the world can only be described with the acuracy that is there and no where else. Prophecy! Time is not linear, and the entire story start to finish is contained therein.

Pure delusion, which can only stem from uninformed, if not willful ignorance. Do you also believe the world is only 6000 years old?

~~SerialExpLain~~ · 07-22-2007, 10:46 PM

If you watch this video DSB you would not be making such ignorant claims. Adress the rest of the content in the post of above yours or you are obvious AVOIDING A LOT, intentionally I am sure.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...h&plindex=0

deathstickboy · (This post was last modified: 07-23-2007 12:27 AM by deathstickboy.)

Quote:If you watch this video DSB you would not be making such ignorant claims. Adress the rest of the content in the post of above yours or you are obvious AVOIDING A LOT, intentionally I am sure.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...h&plindex=0

I'm reading the rest of that Ashes of Angel's book you made a post about a few months ago. In that book, through the course of his research into the Nephilim and the comparitive mythology of the region which relates to them, the author clearly deliniates the true origns of the stories, which predate their inclusion and insertion into the Jewish traditions during the "time of capitivity" in Babylon. Its really quite interesting, and when combined with the histories of Josephus, clearly re-afirms the fact that much of Judiasm, especially everything as it applies to the mythology of the Nephilim clearly stems from the ancient indo-aryan faith, which was most certainly practiced by the Hyksos tribes who eventually founded the city of Jerusalem.

You see, when you actually study history, rather than pseudo-mythological history based on the books of one of many peoples in the region, you can go along ways to learning things that have a basis in reality, rather than just "learning" more mythological bullshit which only serves to re-afirm the beliefs you held previously.

Quote:Prophecy!

Is full of ambigous language, that has been interpreted to fit the current age, every fucking age since it was written. I'm not impressed by it in the least.
The Book of Chuang Tzo describes exactly what is going on in our world today as well, by describing what went on in those times. It doesn't speak with the authority of god or the word of prophecy though, its just clear that things haven't changed much at all in the last 4000 years at least.

Quote:is a conspiracy board, you do want to be apprised of WHAT THE FREAKIN CONSPIRACY IS....
Don't you? Still don't think it is an occult agenda/conspiracy...throw in some Michael Aquino, but then also make sure to include Aleister Crowley, Blavatsky, Bailey, Francis Bacon - New Atlantis - (really now, he details the entire agenda and how to facilitate everything right in that document)

I don't know if it is arrogance, delusion, or blind fanaticism which makes you think you've got all that figured out solely within the christian paradigm. Honestly. I'm fully aware of the "occult conspiracy" as its called, I just acknowledge that the new age is being ushered in by the descendants same "illuminated ones" who ushered in the last age with Jesus. Its all the same bullshit mind control. You act like clinging to the old mind control is viable alternative to accepting the latest version.
Thats just fucking stupid if you ask me.