Ron Paul on Fox about Alex Jones

[Ognir]

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Fuck you Ron

Ron was 911 an inside job?
"No I don't believe so"

Fuckin politicians

[MC David]

Yeah he only wants to end all wars, abolish the federal reserve, abolish the draft, abolish the income tax, open a new independent 9/11 investigation, abolish the CIA, cut off funding to Israel, legalize pot, help stop the murder of unborn babies, and a bunch of other good stuff. He sucks. I wish he would play into Fox News' trap & eliminate his chances of being able to do any of these things that would be awesome.

[stanteau]

Infinite, I feel ya, but remember there is absolutely NO proof that Ron Paul is what he says he is except for his word, after all FDR was 100% anti-war

[Hans Olo]

Listen closely: if you mean by "inside job" that our government did it, then no.
How about "criminal elements within the government"?
How about "the government lied about 911 over and over again"?

"The government did it" is a total oversimplification.

[Infowarrior]

Ognir you really want him to commit political suicide?

[byrd]

no i think he wants ppl to get real and not trick themselves into thinking some politician would actually do all these wonderful things that were mentioned. its the U.S.A. have you been paying attention to politics over the past century? or...

as Jordan Maxwell and many others like to point out: presidents are se-lected. and then we have the illusion that we e-lect them. these ppl are put in front of us, then we have the illusion of choice.
much like it makes no difference whether a Democrat or Republican gets in there, it also makes no difference who actually becomes president. cuz whoever it ends up being will get in there cuz that was the plan. not cuz enough ppl woke up and made the right choice on the ballot. but because the certain candidates were put forth, and then the right one gets 'elected', by 'the people'. or so we're told.



ron paul could never commit political suicide. he can say whatever he wants, they know he wont go over board. they know he wont over step the boundaries. if he were the type to try that, or the type to really do some good n shit, he would never be allowed to get to this position in the 1st place.

hes there for a reason. he is controlled opposition. it aint nuttin new.


but yea, go ron paul. good luck, and all that shit.

[Rod]

Quote:no i think he wants ppl to get real and not trick themselves into thinking some politician would actually do all these wonderful things that were mentioned. its the U.S.A. have you been paying attention to politics over the past century? or...

as Jordan Maxwell and many others like to point out: presidents are se-lected. and then we have the illusion that we e-lect them. these ppl are put in front of us, then we have the illusion of choice.
much like it makes no difference whether a Democrat or Republican gets in there, it also makes no difference who actually becomes president. cuz whoever it ends up being will get in there cuz that was the plan. not cuz enough ppl woke up and made the right choice on the ballot. but because the certain candidates were put forth, and then the right one gets 'elected', by 'the people'. or so we're told.



ron paul could never commit political suicide. he can say whatever he wants, they know he wont go over board. they know he wont over step the boundaries. if he were the type to try that, or the type to really do some good n shit, he would never be allowed to get to this position in the 1st place.

hes there for a reason. he is controlled opposition. it aint nuttin new.


but yea, go ron paul. good luck, and all that shit.

I like the comment, but I’m not sure on how to take it. It would be akin to saying that if ConCen was in the top ten of all web pages that it would suddenly become controlled opposition. Is it impossible to conceive of any grass roots making into the public spectrum?

I’m going to entertain your point and reasoning because its good for me to look at other view points, but I’m not entirely convinced of it.

Am I, and was I pissed when Ron Paul said that, yes. I also knew he was politically juggling in doing so, because I understand that he has to speak to the sheep in their own language. Otherwise we just end up with him being relegated to tin foil hat wearer in the media (he’s gotten some of that anyway, but just imagine what they would do with a full statement).

Whatever he is will come out in the wash anyway, if he is the real deal expect an assassination.

[freeon]

Quote:Yeah he only wants to end all wars, abolish the federal reserve, abolish the draft, abolish the income tax, open a new independent 9/11 investigation, abolish the CIA, cut off funding to Israel, legalize pot, help stop the murder of unborn babies, and a bunch of other good stuff. He sucks. I wish he would play into Fox News' trap & eliminate his chances of being able to do any of these things that would be awesome.

Exactly


http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?sh...13819&st=20


Even for those who can't comprehend his words, you must remember that the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

[Archie1970]

Quote:you must remember that the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

That attitude is what caused the resurgence of the Taliban in Afghanistan. It's also what's enabling the daily mass-murder that's occuring in Iraq.

[TraxusIV]

Though I acknowledge the fact that Ron Paul will never touch the presidency unless he is controlled, lets remember that Ognir doesn't believe the US government did it either.

[freeon]

Quote:

Quote: you must remember that the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

That attitude is what caused the resurgence of the Taliban in Afghanistan. It's also what's enabling the daily mass-murder that's occuring in Iraq.

Nonsense

The neo-cons are the driving force behind the NWO in the States and Paul is diametrically opposed to the neo-con agenda.

It's simple: anti-nwo = pro-paul

[Cycle of Eternity]

c'mon, we should know every president has had secret oaths and
allegiances to other people before the people. if he does end up becoming
president, he'll either go along with their plans (for some reason like fear for his life)
or end up like JFK. Either way, i'm not looking at him as a savior or hero for
what he's doing.

[Guest]

Quote:

Quote:

Quote: you must remember that the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

That attitude is what caused the resurgence of the Taliban in Afghanistan. It's also what's enabling the daily mass-murder that's occuring in Iraq.

Nonsense

The neo-cons are the driving force behind the NWO in the States and Paul is diametrically opposed to the neo-con agenda.

Bullshit. Shall I begin listing Komrade Klinton's efforts?

How about Goals 2000 edukashun liftd strate frum d unesco agenduh?
How about the deliberate torching... ie burning to death 80+ Branch Davidians?
Blowing up the Murrah building?
USS Cole?
Pummeling the Chinese Embassy in the Balkans with a missile?
Blowing up an asparin factory under the guise of something else?
Being offered Osama's head on a plate from Sudan THREE TIMES ansd turning it down?
How about the two dead kids on the railway tracks back in Mena Arkansas while Komrade Klinton was still Govenor there? For coke.... their lives for coke...
How do you explain that 3 our of the 4 BATF agents killed in the initial Waco raid had also been at one point in time on Klinton's OWN SS security detail as body guards?

Imagine that.... of 4 agents killed in one raid, 3 of them happened to be President Komrade Klinton's BODYGUARD! Chances? About as chancy as John O'Neil at wtc on 911... I cry foul.

My point is, don't get wrapped up in the "neo-cons" did this, or are "preparing us for that".
That's bullshit.

Sometimes simply refering to them as TPTB really makes the most sense to me. There's a lot of theatre, a false left/right struggle going on yada yada.

[edit] Add Vince Foster's death into a Klinton Krime too.

[edit2] And of course Ruby Ridge...WTC 1993 bombing... All Klinton's shit.

Neocons my ass. Same shit, different pile.

[Ognir]

What he said, as they were all s-elected to begin with

[harmonius]

Quote:Rod:
I like the comment, but I’m not sure on how to take it. It would be akin to saying that if ConCen was in the top ten of all web pages that it would suddenly become controlled opposition. Is it impossible to conceive of any grass roots making into the public spectrum?

I've thought about this point many times too. I have a feeling no one would trust anything that made it into the mainstream, whether or not some made it there legitimately or not.

The problem with conspiracies is that you can fall into the guilt by association thing far too easily, without any hard evidence to back up the theory behind our belief. The most difficult hurdle for any of us to get over IMO is in how we see conspiracies (a term I am coming to like less and less...)

The catch is that we get into knowledge of how the patterns of corruption, control etc. work and we become lazy in our thinking. It's sad to say but we are like scientist that think they have things figured out and can just coast along comfortable that what they know is true. This is probably the most dangerous state to be in because ego has has paralyzed the mind.

We cannot afford that state of being at all. Ever. It is the reason we are in the mess we are in now. Straight up intellectual dishonesty about ourselves. It's human nature for the most part, so far as I can see. No detail can be overlooked as insignificant because that may be th lynch pin that unravels a false view, or the key that unlocks a new understanding.

We must struggle to create a new paradigm in our own lives every day.


Well I'm not sure where I really wanted to go with this, but that's it. I'm outta steam.


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