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inc7 · 10-31-2007, 11:59 AM

Books of Thomas, Judas, Gnostics, i have looked into them all. you think i "believe", because theres somethin i cant see, contrar my friend its because of something i can, once you hold that as being a possibility you open the door to learning, as learning cant happen if knowing exists.

I wonder if you ever went to the bible as an adult, with no bias, not assuming to know what its about, or having many preconceived notions.

What is it actually saying?

Also the alternate stories of history are no more provable in most cases then the established, of which we agree is false. In fact if i was controlling information as the controllers are i would be the one writing the alternate views as well, no?

BTW the whole bible challenges mans athority, from the books of Mosses, to Isaiah, to Jesus , everything. Read the bible for yourself, its so obvious you havnt, at least with a humble eye, but you know all about it, or what "they" want you to know about it.

V13 · 11-01-2007, 02:55 AM

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Quote:Intellekt, its obvious you havnt read the bible for yourself, your a sheep of the worst kind, but u think your not cause u can see some of the evils of the world and some of the truths, have you ever thought that maybe your being allowed to if thats what itll take to dam your spirit and believe other lies? Like plot of Zeigheist.

lols. i can't help it, i gotta laugh.

I haven't read the bible through and through, so that makes me a sheep? lols.
That has to be the dumbest shit I have ever heard. That's a book that turns people to sheep.

Jesus christ, stop talking before you make youself sound even more ignorant.

I mean, it's so obvious you know me... my god.

Religion, including the bible, is a manmade concept, you won't find any truth
in it besides in yourself with purity in your natural form... you just won't...
i really don't care what anyone says... nature is the best way to go imo.
There is no debating or questioning nature, period.

BTW, for the record, I was never comparing 'Pi' to religion in any way.
I just use the glyph to symbolize a circle for my own beliefs.
So what all of these dipshits are spewing out is not in anyway related to what I believe.

Apparently you think you have all the truth, when you read this book,
to answer and know any and all truths... that's just stupid.
So you know what is really obvious to me? You were just talking to a mirror, not me.

Go home.

And people wonder why Christians get bashed, they think they know it all.
There is NO use in debating a Christian-bible-Jesus lover... god... how sheepish.

Hmmm Pi... defines your religion of water... Just curious, what happens when sound hits water when there is no light, physically speaking? If there is no Word to ''see'' the water, what is water, intelligent, supernatural cause? Can man claim religion is natural by measure? PU PPU Pi... Is the Word... water in the dark or not? Pi... as a natural measure, not a supernatural cause, is the dark, denial, unknown...Pu PPPi... a measure of what is familiar... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprIR991EkY water with water, a measure of man/Natural [(be)(cause)], men do not know the perfection of the Word of God in Christ/cause... Natural man is claims cause, rebellion against perfect principle... Pi... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSkyEyBczU Men are apposed to the darkness of empty cause, religion of fools with out intelligence, know nothing to be cause yet, men claim the water in the dark is an intelligent offer in light of perfect principle, supernatural reality/cause... Men covet Pi defines Man/work or ability to account/measure something from/for nothing as a religion... Men claim natural cause. the water of life, the church/nature in agreement in darkness... silent to the supernatural/Word of God, the body of light, in Jesus name... Man/nature is not cause, it is what you know is not cause, as a religion... Pi is not relative... It is whole/intelligent... RIGHT! Natural cause Pi, IS NOT... To continue to measure time and NOT BE... in time with time, is only possible if Man/nature is not perfect cause... intelligence that was UNknown... What measure does not account for anything, is natural... What does count is, resurrection and life, endless unnatural conclusion... SUPERNATURAL CAUSE... The Love of God in Christ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-OTQmVOqJU The day will come, when you know the whole truth is not impossible and true holiness is a supernatural reality...

LeveL · (This post was last modified: 11-01-2007 03:14 AM by LeveL.)

According to Jordan Maxwell, there are more than five thousand mis-translations between the original Hewbrew text of the Bible and the "King James Version" of 1611. Most notably where the King James Version of 1611 says "a virgin gave birth" apparently the original Hebrew texts say no such thing: they actually say "a girl gave birth". No miracle there folks, girls/women the world over give birth every single day.

Just as well I don't read the bible. :rolleyes:

Maybe the Hebrew version is actually worth the read but I am not lerning Hebrew just to read that.

Plus they left the Dead Sea Scrolls out of even the original Hebrew version because it "conflicted" with the bullshit story that has now become the Bible. Fucking hell if anything was EVER blasphemous its the god damned 1611 King James Version. You might as well read the "Wizard of Oz" and claim it is real.

<span style="color:#666666">Edit: Mr BS posted this and I know he is banned etc but is he ever going to be allowed back? He sounded like a straight up guy from the audio he put on the tracker. Well, if I was Ognir I wouldn't let Mr BS back on just from it being personal but its a shitter that it got so personal... Mr BS is wrong IMO to post stuff, as he says "without smileys because whats the point of sarcasm if you spoil it with smileys" but no Mr BS... if you post shit here and you do not let others know its intended as sarcasm then they are none the wiser. I tend to take shit seriously here, always, no matter what it is being posted, because what am I supposed to do jst think everyone is a schmuck posting comedy? Come on this isn't comedy and you can't just say people should take "X" post seriously but oh "Y" post isn't serious, how the fuck do people know that? They don't because its just words on a screen. Get real Mr BS. Saying that though I think he sounds like a good enough guy, a loss to the forum in fact.

V13 · 11-01-2007, 04:41 AM

According to man, the World Trade Center fell because of fire... A religious impossibility in the spirit of 7... Now the facts that we do know, point to an intelligence, a conspiracy... It takes two or more people gathered in agreement in order to define the spirit of a lie... One of them must betray the truth at the expense of Pi/there own salvation/... fact remains with the whole truth... and we can forgive others for not knowing the secret of a Mason that built the tomb... To practice religion as the Word Of God, the perfect principle must be sustained... It is not hard to work out the fact that truth is cause... The whole truth is always the same... Power vested in a lie, a New World Order control, is the war against Pi/truth... The Love of God in Jesus is the only principle that agrees with truth/Pi... No man has the power to agree with the physical reality of God, only the physics/image of God... the fact that measures this, still does not account for presence with out Christ defined as the Whole perfect living being true/Pi/cause... that is why the Love of God gave His Son for His sake, to us... Nothing as a religion, is the art of man, the destruction of all flesh as a principle/Pie and graven image... How great thou art in Heaven as it is on Earth, if there is no intelligent love that has sacrificed physical presence as sin so that the true holy Spirit is known/Pi/sustained in agreement as the whole perfect body... and by the Spirit of God/Pi/truth sustains all flesh in agreement/perfect principle/Pi... The Spirit of God in Christ has overcome the New World Order. The war with man is won by the Spirit of God in agreement with the body and blood of Jesus... The Spirit of God in Christ was not written down for the apostle to read... The presence of Christ, the Son of God was revealed by the Holy Spirit of God in agreement with the apostle. That man answered a question that was confirmed by the truth, the Word, the light and Spirit, the Love of God in Christ... The fulfillment of the whole spirit of truth is Pi... if you accept the offer, truth is sustained... even when the war against it tries to alter it...

triplesix · (This post was last modified: 11-03-2007 12:37 AM by triplesix.)

Haha, I love that Pi has become such a mystical sacrosanct.

Think about it. Pi is a ratio. Ratio are coincidences. They are properties defined by themselves.

So who cares that a circle's Circumference = (Pi) * Diameter.

Pi is just a made up term applied to an irrational number.

Fact of the matter is, if Pi was equal, to say 1.5, then the term Pi wouldn't exist.

We'd just do calculations with 1.5. Think of it like this.

A regular polygon's Perimeter = (Kappa) * Side, where (Kappa) is the number of Sides.

Is Kappa (which I just made up, it'd be X; simple algebra) some mystical God number? I suppose. But not really. Rather just another peculiarity of math.

So Pi is really just a universal constant. There are many "universal constants" in math. And so it's no big deal.

And the King James Bible is whack. 1611? You want 1611 years of translations? Think of how fucking important this is. Your entire life's faith is decided on this book, man. Maybe I'm a bit more pig-headed than you, but nothing but the original is gonna work for me. This is a book written 1800 years ago, on what? During hostile occupation unfriendly to the work. The word of God, the original Bible, would have to survive unchanged for another 1400 years before the printing press would even be invented in Europe.

And as I believe someone mentioned, the Dead Sea Scrolls were ignored and rejected from the Canon because they conflict with the official version. How fucked up is that? It doesn't even make sense. It PROVES manipulation from earlier works. It simply proves it. I don't know what else to say.

V13 · 11-03-2007, 02:15 AM

Quote:Haha, I love that Pi has become such a mystical sacrosanct.

Think about it. Pi is a ratio. Ratio are coincidences. They are properties defined by themselves.

So who cares that a circle's Circumference = (Pi) * Diameter.

Pi is just a made up term applied to an irrational number.

Fact of the matter is, if Pi was equal, to say 1.5, then the term Pi wouldn't exist.

We'd just do calculations with 1.5. Think of it like this.

A regular polygon's Perimeter = (Kappa) * Side, where (Kappa) is the number of Sides.

Is Kappa (which I just made up, it'd be X; simple algebra) some mystical God number? I suppose. But not really. Rather just another peculiarity of math.

So Pi is really just a universal constant. There are many "universal constants" in math. And so it's no big deal.

And the King James Bible is whack. 1611? You want 1611 years of translations? Think of how fucking important this is. Your entire life's faith is decided on this book, man. Maybe I'm a bit more pig-headed than you, but nothing but the original is gonna work for me. This is a book written 1800 years ago, on what? During hostile occupation unfriendly to the work. The word of God, the original Bible, would have to survive unchanged for another 1400 years before the printing press would even be invented in Europe.

And as I believe someone mentioned, the Dead Sea Scrolls were ignored and rejected from the Canon because they conflict with the official version. How fucked up is that? It doesn't even make sense. It PROVES manipulation from earlier works. It simply proves it. I don't know what else to say.

By your assumption, as a conclusion, defined the principle, Coexistent/coincident, you have established no basis as a foundation to support your own conclusion. You define negative charge, an oxymoron... The spirit of your conclusion, baseless universal paranormal reality. Nothing defined as cause, is a whirlwind/natural spiral, an assault to presence, defined by gravitational pull as loss... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0seVq5ydqzk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPqRRFCCGnI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0Pg47Gmuf0 The expression of a memory lost and the reality that energy still defines cause... In order to sustain energy, your proposal offers a New World Order, death... What you sacrifice is truth, the present form of perfection and cause. Just because a principle loss is offered in opposition with perfect principle, does not mean a fool will profit a rate of return unto God. The Antichrist measure is a tomb of an unknown soldier... Jesus is known as the son of God. If you do not know this, the Spirit of God is not with you and the body of Christ in agreement as the principle force, the cause, will not sustain you as an equal measure in form as an agreement thereby the power and glory of the Word of God... Heaven and Earth may pass away but, the whole truth and Spirit of God in Christ is always in CHARGE! Your principle of, know nothing, is not an intelligent offer in the spirit of presence in agreement with perfect principle... What ever false Word is written, agrees with your assumed position, a criminal charge, imprisoned in eternity... Not a good place to be host... What principle in Christ is false, other than your denial of the power of God, Christ physical law? Does not the whole truth agree as one number and by virtue, your body is defined by the power invested in an offer from the whole Spirit and physical reality? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKty_inLAFo

inc7 · 11-03-2007, 02:44 AM

triplesix
ratios dont show coincidence but laws of relation.
No such thing as coincidence.

V13 · 11-03-2007, 03:27 AM

Quote:triplesix
ratios dont show coincidence but laws of relation.
No such thing as coincidence.

Co-Incident=With the whole... If God is not with you, where are you? Where do you think that is, concidently?

inc7 · 11-03-2007, 07:16 AM

Still within that realm of relation, as everything created is, by that fundamental fact. We were created, and not equal, but in relation to, a likeness to, a host to.

co-incident is not equal with the whole but within it, as one was needed for the other but not reverse, where by the whole transcends. Out side the realm of the equation.

TeslaandLyne · 11-06-2007, 04:42 PM

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp

In case any one has children, look out for this film.

Email warnings are going out:

Quote:FYI - Just passing this along. I know so most of you have children or grandchildren.

Denise

Subject: Movie Warning!

I am happy to forward this. Please continue to pass this along so we can
protect our children. I hope enough people get this email to make this
movie a flop. Click on the link at the very bottom for more details and to
check it out for yourself. Take Care. Kim

THE GOLDEN COMPASS, a new movie targeted at children, will be released
December 7, 2007. This movie is based on a the first book of a trilogy by
atheist Philip Pullman. In the final book a boy and girl kill God so they
can do as they please. Pullman left little doubt about his intentions when
he said in a 2003 interview that " *My books are about killing God.*"

The movie is a watered down version of the first book and is designed to
be very attractive in the hope unsuspecting parents will take their children
to see the movie and that the children will want the books for Christmas.

The movie has a well known cast, including Nicole Kidman, Kevin Bacon, and
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that we get the word out to warn parents to avoid this movie.

You can research this for yourself. Start with this article on
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then go to Google.

For all the God fearing people on ConCen.

V13 · 11-07-2007, 06:00 AM

Quote:Still within that realm of relation, as everything created is, by that fundamental fact. We were created, and not equal, but in relation to, a likeness to, a host to.

co-incident is not equal with the whole but within it, as one was needed for the other but not reverse, where by the whole transcends. Out side the realm of the equation.

You are thinking as if you know something? How would an innocent person feel walking with God? Well, you do not know, do you? No one escapes the Love of God in Christ. Christ did not rob God. The name Jesus, is the Word of God by which all thing are created equal with God... If you are perfect, that is just the way it is... The Word of God is, defined presence in agreement, God...

jack · 11-07-2007, 03:00 PM

Why i hate religion, Because most religious people are arrogant hypocrites.

nataraja · 11-07-2007, 03:52 PM

ya i have to agree with that one jack

mothandrust · 11-07-2007, 06:16 PM

jack, nataraja... absolutely with you

strange how (Bible bashing) Christians are so arrogant and judgmental, when they were instructed to be the opposite. from this perspective, all these 'Christians' must think Jesus was talking out of his arse:confused:

triplesix · (This post was last modified: 11-08-2007 03:13 AM by triplesix.)

"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."
Gatauma Siddhartha Buddha

I find myself agreeing with most of what spiritual people of any faith say, minus the labels. Through observation and analysis I have concluded that there is a spiritual side to the universe and probably a deistic one. On the same note, however, I have concluded that there is no such thing as a prophet. No human is perfect enough to elicit a manifestation of God. This is because God is perfection. Humans are fundamentally an illusion of the soul and therefore everything wrought by human hands is subject to the imperfection of the physical manifestations of the universe. Therefore even men such as Gatauma Buddha whom I have great respect for cannot be considered prophets because even he may be flawed in his perceptions of the universe. I especially give no credence to tales of men born to a virgin, impregnated by (a) god. These are the tales of the Romans, Greeks, pagans, scared spiritual babies in a confusing and primeval world.

Believers of the Bible (and other religions) suspend their logic in order to believe fantastic stories that cannot be proven deductively. This is why I pity religion. I don't say hate because I don't hate things any longer, it's a wasteful emotion. Rather I have pity for them, and wish them the knowledge they need to rise above the illusions and the stories. The reason Americans in particular are so ignorant is because the Christian mentality holds faith higher than knowledge and many of these threads are a testament to that. I hope they can all find the wisdom to recognize the fundamental flaw in a religious mentality and recognize the arrogance in assuming to know the correct answer, and with that, the immeasurable insult implicit in condemning others who don't share the same delusion.

"There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth: 1.) not going all the way; and 2.) not starting."
Gatauma Siddhartha Buddha