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mixmasterbert · 10-29-2007, 05:28 PM

well said

horseonwheels · 10-30-2007, 09:35 AM

Quote:God is Pi/Jesus... In case you have no principle the offering, the physical reality, sustains Pi... there is no escape... Denial is an expression defined by God with absence, your rejection and denial of Christ, the body of perfection in agreement with the principle Pi... If you have no conviction, the physical reality stands as a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF-PWZ9mUxw as you were, an offering opposed to your assumption as a conviction for the body with no cause to recognize... You go down a/in/lost journey consumed by the false conclusion of choice, if you will but, Pi is not a choice born to loose principle, that is not possible... The words '' I never knew you'' come to being, as you were... so shall you be unknown still... By principle, you shall loose the body denied being, as you were, offered by principle... You have no possible rate of return or reward for Pi, the definition of being intelligent and love eternal. Your value never measured whole with Pi? You must not square away with the world entombed as New Order principality, escape this measure http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-gMuBMPyic know the Love of God in Christ is the principle intelligence of Pi... Ask God... don't live like an accepted Freemason whore measuring degrees of separation/3.14ect... Knowledge is not a certain measure based on the highest New World Order established as the fall of man, it is based on the Love of God in Christ... not a pyramid scheme of denial... The body is Christ, perfect, Pi, principle. 3 P's for Pi, a whole measure, with out end and is perfect. 3=Pi, physical, intelligent, eternal... If you are not among the numbered saints, it is not because you did not count, it's because you don't know the whole number as a measure of perfection, you just keep counting your consciousness and ability as you were... There is no point of return beyond Pi as a whole measure... only countless numbers that have no meaning other than a measure of time in relation to a claimed end of intelligence, an endless denial defined by a point beyond forever whole as a New World Order Pi, not defined with out Pi and is a totally insane, endless, hellish claim of torment...

thats a lot of words to use, to say absolutely nothing at all. what youre doing is trying to come of as smarter than you actually are by juggling with expressions that you clearly do not understand. Pi is not a number of perfection, where did you get that lame idea from? I could have understood what you said if you had related it to PHI (with an H) but Pi, no. you have no clue what you are taling about it, is pseudo scienreligious babble at best and im inclined to label it as absolute nonsense.

horseonwheels · 10-30-2007, 09:45 AM

ahh now i get it, we dont operate by the definitions of words as commonly accepted. Like Pi or π is a mathematical constant, approximately equal to 3.14159, that represents the ratio of any circle's circumference to its diameter in Euclidean geometry. The number also represents the ratio of a circle's area to the square of its radius, and appears in many other formulas from mathematics and geometry as well. Pi is an irrational number, which means that its decimal expansion 3.1415926535897932... never ends or repeats.

But pi really means something else, right?

well then i have it all figured out, the universe came into being because of mlxflpwyz, and you cant disprove this because i use my own understanding of the words and its implications in the real world. and i made it up to be sure noone else knows the ACTUAL meaning and implication of the words im using.

mlxflpwyz...taste it, youre going to hear it a lot from now on. mlxflpwyz covers everything in perfect harmony with itself and christ...and kirstey Alley, mlxflpwyz is found on www.youtube.com/somewhitthatdoesnthaveanythingtodowithwhatimtalkingaboutbutitlooksasifahaveactua
lrefferencesformybullshit, mlxflpwyz is the logical interferrence of a square root calculation of a point in a tangent space, this mlxflpwyz explain bigbang perfectly. mlxflpwyz is pretty damn cool....

by now the clever reader understands that mlxflpwyz really coupld be replaced with pi, phi, alpha, beta whatever and still make as much sense both as the original poste and the PI replies...hey i rhyme perhaps i should become a rapper??? dj mlxflpwyz in teh house joooh

Cycle of Eternity · 10-30-2007, 11:38 AM

^arrogance and ego.

Pi is forever... and what is forever? EVERYTHING.
the circle/sphere is a universal shape that can be used
as a symbol to symbolize eternity without time or infinity with time,
hence encompassing everything that has ever been, is and will be...
forever with no beginning or ending.
Natural organisms from microorganisms to planets take this shape.
It is thee prime universal shape.

To me, it has nothing to do with Jesus or religion... it has to do with
a supreme, universal intelligence i believe nothing is separate from.

If you wanna get more multi-dimensional, apart from a circle and sphere,
a spiral will do major justice too (which is also circular).

LeveL · 10-30-2007, 01:41 PM

OMFG!!!

Every other post here is about Pi. :huh:

I have given up even trying to read it all.

WTF has 3.1416 got to do with "Why I hate religion".

Its like having a topic "Look at this new Ferrari" then people talk
about dolphins all the way through it, what the fuck is going on!!!

"I hate religion because... Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi"

If I was a mod here I would be deleting all these posts about Pi and warning people.

Yes, I am posting about it myself - but only in response to other posts about it, wondering what the fuck.

horseonwheels · 10-30-2007, 02:01 PM

Quote:^arrogance and ego.

you couldnt hold a candle to me buddy, let me quote...

Quote:what a laugh.

you're just a person that has nothing to say about anything, because you're a moron,
hence your lack of ability to articulate and explain yourself or to even say anything of meaning.
Please... go fuck yourself.

those are your own words, so if anything youre speaking as an authority and master on arrogance and ego.

0110110 · 10-30-2007, 03:16 PM

I think this "Why I hate religion" should be under the "Religion and Occult" thread, imho

mothandrust · 10-30-2007, 09:42 PM

don't know about pi representing ultimate truth (God) - guess it seems to in some ways. to my mind though, it says: even though humanity thinks it's so fucking smart, in reality it can't even measure a circle accurately.

V13 · 10-31-2007, 03:02 AM

Quote:OMFG!!!

Every other post here is about Pi. :huh:

I have given up even trying to read it all.

WTF has 3.1416 got to do with "Why I hate religion".

Its like having a topic "Look at this new Ferrari" then people talk
about dolphins all the way through it, what the fuck is going on!!!

"I hate religion because... Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi, Pi"

If I was a mod here I would be deleting all these posts about Pi and warning people.

Yes, I am posting about it myself - but only in response to other posts about it, wondering what the fuck.

Hee hee... You got it. ''Why I hate religion'' because, it is a subject of perfection... If no one is perfect, well... Do the math... What time is it? Oh ya, the calender says what ever you want it to be, as a measure of a man, a secular New World Oder of... Ha haa haa... Pu Puuu PHUU Phi Pi now... can that be right? ME ME ME... I I I... AM religion? People actually do not love their life unto death? Hmmm, sound familiar... People hate the fact that they are not perfect... How healthy... in a way... What way? Religious?

inc7 · 10-31-2007, 03:41 AM

The whole system is being controlled and manipulated, not just religion(s). However there is a book that stands alone as the enemy to this control, The Bible 1611. The controllers have convinced most ppl even the ones who think there enlightend and the smartest of the smart, that they know what the bible is about, no need to read, but do u really.
All those bashing Christian religion in ignorance are a kin to blaming Muslums for the trade centres. Both have been takin over, and manipulated. But the bible has consistently been a threat to them through out history. Why is that, they love paganism and new age bull, spiritism etc, why do they hate the bible if thats what breeds sheep, and do u really know what it says, or do u just trust someone elses interpretation. medias, schools, theres. The controllers have been misinterpreting the bible for the masses always, time to read for yourself. All it claims to be is the truth, and there in lies the power, what a concept.

Intellekt, its obvious you havnt read the bible for yourself, your a sheep of the worst kind, but u think your not cause u can see some of the evils of the world and some of the truths, have you ever thought that maybe your being allowed to if thats what itll take to dam your spirit and believe other lies? Like plot of Zeigheist.

I will debate any spiritual concepts , any world views, in light of the bible and show just how ignorant all the bashers are who dont realize theres a difference between religion and the bible.
See who can connect the dots.

I think people who are sincerely, humbly trying to see the truth will, but for most the spirit of pride and the desire to keep living the way they r prevents them. There is only one truth amongst thousands and thousnds of lies and half truths. The truth is very simple and easy, a child see it easiest as they are least bias, no need for a huge intellect it just gets in the way.

Its like listening to Greenspan about the economy, some of the most intellectual jargon there is, but its all bull, the truth is quite simple, a few ppl own all the money and things are the way they are cause they want them that way.
Most people are listening to the Greenspans of religion, instead of the bible and there heart.

For all you occult people maybe you might understand this concept, The Word(the bible, truth) is alive and has a spirit, the one and only spirit that man should be a host to, which will govern his actions and personality,make him whole, but all the other words, lies, spirits, hate the one word, they covet its power. This world isnt about perceptions, but absolutes, there is only one truth, maybe many ways to say it but one truth. If all were living by this truth, The Word, we would have no worldly controllers.

truth is money does grow on trees, everything needed for life is free, but has been monopolized and controlled, and will continue that way and get worse if we keep playin by those rules, or being apathetic and not having a voice for whats right, the truth. What should we change, ourself, to conform to the truth, and teach others who sincerely want the truth to as well.

What spirit(s) are you living by. Choose one of two trees, life or knowledge. If everyone was living in the spirit of life, money, paper wouldnt be the source of so much evil and death.

V13 · 10-31-2007, 04:10 AM

Quote:The whole system is being controlled and manipulated, not just religion(s). However there is a book that stands alone as the enemy to this control, The Bible 1611. The controllers have convinced most ppl even the ones who think there enlightend and the smartest of the smart, that they know what the bible is about, no need to read, but do u really.
All those bashing Christian religion in ignorance are a kin to blaming Muslums for the trade centres. Both have been takin over, and manipulated. But the bible has consistently been a threat to them through out history. Why is that, they love paganism and new age bull, spiritism etc, why do they hate the bible if thats what breeds sheep, and do u really know what it says, or do u just trust someone elses interpretation. medias, schools, theres. The controllers have been misinterpreting the bible for the masses always, time to read for yourself. All it claims to be is the truth, and there in lies the power, what a concept.

Intellekt, its obvious you havnt read the bible for yourself, your a sheep of the worst kind, but u think your not.

I will debate any spiritual concepts , any world views, in light of the bible and show just how ignorant all the bashers are who dont realize theres a difference between religion and the bible.
See who can connect the dots.

I think people who are sincerely, humbly trying to see the truth will, but for most the spirit of pride and the desire to keep living the way they r prevents them. There is only one truth amongst thousands and thousnds of lies and half truths. The truth is very simple and easy, a child see it easiest as they are least bias, no need for a huge intellect it just gets in the way.

Its like listening to Greenspan about the economy, some of the most intellectual jargon there is, but its all bull, the truth is quite simple, a few ppl own all the money and things are the way they are cause they want them that way.
Most people are listening to the Greenspans of religion, instead of the bible and there heart.

Well said...

mothandrust · 10-31-2007, 08:05 AM

Quote:The whole system is being controlled and manipulated, not just religion(s). However there is a book that stands alone as the enemy to this control, The Bible 1611. The controllers have convinced most ppl even the ones who think there enlightend and the smartest of the smart, that they know what the bible is about, no need to read, but do u really.
All those bashing Christian religion in ignorance are a kin to blaming Muslums for the trade centres. Both have been takin over, and manipulated. But the bible has consistently been a threat to them through out history. Why is that, they love paganism and new age bull, spiritism etc, why do they hate the bible if thats what breeds sheep, and do u really know what it says, or do u just trust someone elses interpretation. medias, schools, theres. The controllers have been misinterpreting the bible for the masses always, time to read for yourself. All it claims to be is the truth, and there in lies the power, what a concept.

Intellekt, its obvious you havnt read the bible for yourself, your a sheep of the worst kind, but u think your not cause u can see some of the evils of the world and some of the truths, have you ever thought that maybe your being allowed to if thats what itll take to dam your spirit and believe other lies? Like plot of Zeigheist.

I will debate any spiritual concepts , any world views, in light of the bible and show just how ignorant all the bashers are who dont realize theres a difference between religion and the bible.
See who can connect the dots.

I think people who are sincerely, humbly trying to see the truth will, but for most the spirit of pride and the desire to keep living the way they r prevents them. There is only one truth amongst thousands and thousnds of lies and half truths. The truth is very simple and easy, a child see it easiest as they are least bias, no need for a huge intellect it just gets in the way.

Its like listening to Greenspan about the economy, some of the most intellectual jargon there is, but its all bull, the truth is quite simple, a few ppl own all the money and things are the way they are cause they want them that way.
Most people are listening to the Greenspans of religion, instead of the bible and there heart.

For all you occult people maybe you might understand this concept, The Word(the bible, truth) is alive and has a spirit, the one and only spirit that man should be a host to, which will govern his actions and personality,make him whole, but all the other words, lies, spirits, hate the one word, they covet its power. This world isnt about perceptions, but absolutes, there is only one truth, maybe many ways to say it but one truth. If all were living by this truth, The Word, we would have no worldly controllers.

truth is money does grow on trees, everything needed for life is free, but has been monopolized and controlled, and will continue that way and get worse if we keep playin by those rules, or being apathetic and not having a voice for whats right, the truth. What should we change, ourself, to conform to the truth, and teach others who sincerely want the truth to as well.

What spirit(s) are you living by. Choose one of two trees, life or knowledge. If everyone was living in the spirit of life, money, paper wouldnt be the source of so much evil and death.

inc, i think you need to read some history beyond the establishment version. the bible as we know it, was constructed and edited by the Roman church during the 2nd/3rd centuries. all the books that challenged their authority and suggested people think for themselves, like for example the gospels of Thomas and Judas, were excluded. the Roman church then spent the next 3 centuries attempting to obliterate all copies from existence, along with the Gnostics - i.e. those who wanted to think for themselves, rather than surrender their liberty to authority. they did a pretty good job, it wasn't until 1947 (ish) that copies of these manuscripts were found in Egypt.

Cycle of Eternity · 10-31-2007, 10:59 AM

Quote:Intellekt, its obvious you havnt read the bible for yourself, your a sheep of the worst kind, but u think your not cause u can see some of the evils of the world and some of the truths, have you ever thought that maybe your being allowed to if thats what itll take to dam your spirit and believe other lies? Like plot of Zeigheist.

lols. i can't help it, i gotta laugh.

I haven't read the bible through and through, so that makes me a sheep? lols.
That has to be the dumbest shit I have ever heard. That's a book that turns people to sheep.

Jesus christ, stop talking before you make youself sound even more ignorant.

I mean, it's so obvious you know me... my god.

Religion, including the bible, is a manmade concept, you won't find any truth
in it besides in yourself with purity in your natural form... you just won't...
i really don't care what anyone says... nature is the best way to go imo.
There is no debating or questioning nature, period.

BTW, for the record, I was never comparing 'Pi' to religion in any way.
I just use the glyph to symbolize a circle for my own beliefs.
So what all of these dipshits are spewing out is not in anyway related to what I believe.

Apparently you think you have all the truth, when you read this book,
to answer and know any and all truths... that's just stupid.
So you know what is really obvious to me? You were just talking to a mirror, not me.

Go home.

And people wonder why Christians get bashed, they think they know it all.
There is NO use in debating a Christian-bible-Jesus lover... god... how sheepish.

inc7 · 10-31-2007, 11:17 AM

Some things are the truth weather we want to believe them or not, there required to facilitate the order nessesary for life and everything around us, dosnt matter if we see it or not it governs us. A math book speaks of one plus one equaling two, is that a perception, or do u think some things are true? Cause and effect is the math of life.

New testament:
The bible never says the truth should be enforced by human hands.
The Bible dosnt promote policies of organized religion, especially war and killing, lying or stealing, greed or strife, none of it, nor looking to someone els for salvation. Its within.
Human hands can be governed by spirits to write (just ask the occult) the one spirit of truth, or others.
Also the "they" i speak of that hate the bible are the controllers, not the masses(however anyone in sin hates the bible, its condemning them). The Controllers have always hated the bible and wished to distort and manipulate those from the bible to "religion", mislead them from its teachings. Just like religious right supporting Bushes war, thats not even close to to what the bible teaches. If someone hits u on your cheek, turn to him the other. Love your enemy etc. (even if 9/11 was believed, revenge or preemption is not taught in the new testament).

Do i think the bible should be enforced on others, no, not any more then i think trees should be forced to use the sun, or water to make fruit. Trees dont have free will, we do. Free will dosnt denote a right way. If trees did have a free will the whole ecosystem of life could be killed with a lie misleading them from the truth of there purpose.

Think your dealing with the fundamental question, is there a right way, a truth, and is the only way of knowing it from another man. Its not, in fact i would say look to the intelligence of the natural world, chemistry etc for proof of the math, order, right, truth. We've just lost our way because of free will and manipulation and lies. I saw the "truth" in science, chemistry before i opend the bible, its what made me open the bible, and behold, the truth is in there.

I would say, dont be so rigid in thinkin you already know, listen to logic and not presumption, the bible can be proved in an analytical way, no need for a "leap of faith".

inc7 · 10-31-2007, 11:31 AM

On history and manipulation of the bibles, i agree its been done, i think however the 1611 bible holds true, i wouldnt say the same about newer translations as i have seen certain words changed that convey diff meanings. The truth is in the code of life all around us, most will never see it, you dont even need to. The bible will speak to you on your level if u let it. If you listen to the bible in a certain spirit, youll hear the truth, even the new translations, its like putting on a lens, what comes through will be filtered, the lens is humility, desire for truth. Humility is the opposite of pride, i think most people dont know what pride is, or they think its something to covet. Also i dont think ppl wanna really hear the truth, they wanna hear there good, and the millions of ways to justify that opinion, what if the truth is, your not being good, and you need to change, can you handle that level of truth?