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Who Really Started the WW2?
11-25-2007, 08:54 PM
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Who Really Started the WW2?
Quote:Another reason for Germany's lack of preparedness, Suvorov contends, was that her military leaders seriously under-estimated the performance of Soviet forces in the Winter War against Finland, 1939-40. They fought, it must be stressed, under extremely severe winter conditions -- temperatures of minus 40 degrees Celsius and snow depths of several feet -- against the well-designed reinforced concrete fortifications and underground facilities of Finland's "Mannerheim Line." In spite of that, it is often forgotten, the Red Army did, after all, force the Finns into a humiliating armistice.
Some remarks are in place:

The Mannerheim Line was only one small area of the Winter War. Yes it was a very important area, but we Finns also achieved decisive victories in other areas of the long front: In South Eastern area, in the middle of long front, in North East and in the North.

This is the map of Finland:
[Image: Winter-War-Overview.png]
The Mannerheim line was in South, between the Lake Ladoga and the Gulf of Finland. This was the only area in the Finnish frontier that was heavily fortified.

In the North we Finns took amazing victories with many times inferior troops, by encircling them, and destroying them completely. Among other divisions, we completely destroyed the best Soviet division, The Soviet 44th Infantry Division (c. 25,000 troops).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_war

And concerning the "humiliating armistice": We were a nation of 4 million people, we had no tanks, no aircraft, no navy, just 4 million people (of which about 200,00 in arms). Soviet Union had 200 million people, endless amounts of tanks, artillery and aircraft. We were one of the few countries, who fought the war and managed to preserve our independence during the Second World War. I dont consider our armistice humiliating, I consider it rational. I consider it a rational move by our rational leaders.

But yes, Hitler did admit later that the Finnish Winter War, was one big reason that lead him to underestimate the Soviet Union and the capabilities of the Red Army.

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