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Putin warns against Iran attack on landmark visit
10-16-2007, 05:23 PM
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Putin warns against Iran attack on landmark visit
Putin warns against Iran attack on landmark visit

16/10/2007 13h27

TEHRAN (AFP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin Tuesday warned against military action against Iran and backed its right to nuclear energy, during the first visit to the country by a Kremlin chief since World War II.

Putin, attending a summit meeting of Caspian Sea states, arrived in the Iranian capital amid heavy security and secrecy over his travel plans after reports a squad of suicide bombers planned to kill him.

His visit is of major significance for the Islamic republic at a time of mounting tensions with the West over its atomic drive. Putin met President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and was also to see supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

"It is important... that we not only do not use any kind of force but also do not even think about the possibility of using force," Putin told the four other Caspian Sea leaders gathered for the summit.

"It is also important that we talk about the impossibility of using our territory for other countries to carry out aggression or military action against other Caspian littoral states."

Along with the presidents of Azerbaijan, Iran, Kazakhstan, and Turkmenistan, Putin declared the states "would not allow their territory to be used by a third country to commit military action against one of the parties."

The United States has never ruled out military action against Tehran but Iran's northern neighbour Azerbaijan, a US ally, has repeatedly insisted it would not allow the US military to launch an attack from its soil.

The declaration also supported Iran's right to nuclear energy, which the United States claims Tehran only wants as cover for a atomic weapons drive.

It backed the right of Non-Proliferation Treaty members to "research, produce and use nuclear energy for peaceful ends, without discrimination, within the framework of this treaty and the mechanisms of the UN nuclear watchdog."

The countries had "expressed the idea that peaceful nuclear activities must be allowed," Putin told a news conference.

"Russia is the only country helping Iran to construct a nuclear power station for peaceful ends," Putin added, referring to the still unfinished project to build Iran's first nuclear energy plant in Bushehr.

Putin's comments highlighted the differences between Russia and the West, which is seeking more unilateral and UN sanctions to punish Tehran for its nuclear defiance.

Russia however has insisted diplomacy is the way to solve the standoff and has said it is not convinced by the Western claims Iran's nuclear programme is military in nature. Tehran insists the atomic drive is entirely peaceful.

Reports on Russian news agencies of an assassination threat had cast doubt over whether Putin would go ahead with the visit and his arrival was delayed from the scheduled touchdown on Monday evening.

But much to the relief of Iranian officials, his plane finally landed at Tehran's Mehrabad airport early Tuesday.

Russia's Interfax news agency, citing a source in the Russian special services, had reported on Sunday that a group of suicide bombers would try to kill Putin in Tehran. The Kremlin said Putin had been notified of the report.

Iranian media reported that Putin's armour-plated car had been air-freighted into Tehran ahead of his visit to ensure his security.

His exact travel plans were kept closely under wraps, with Kremlin officials refusing even to disclose what time he left Germany after talks with Chancellor Angela Merkel for the five hour flight to Iran.

Putin had insisted that he would "of course" press ahead with his visit, saying that talking directly to Iran's leaders could help end the standoff over its nuclear programme.

The Islamic republic has regularly hosted allies who share its antipathy towards the United States such as Belarus President Aleksander Lukashenko, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and Venezuela's Hugo Chavez.

But a visit by a statesman of Putin's stature -- his country is a veto-wielding permanent member of the UN Security Council -- is a major event.

The last Kremlin chief to visit Iran was Soviet dictator Josef Stalin, who attended the famous conference of the "Big Three" World War II Allied powers in Tehran in 1943 alongside Winston Churchill and Franklin D. Roosevelt.
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10-17-2007, 09:34 AM (This post was last modified: 10-17-2007 09:35 AM by justice.)
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Putin warns against Iran attack on landmark visit
Israle has nukes and they are just as extream as Iran and who can blame Iran for wanting nukes when mad dog bush is attacking people all around the world

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The USA's enermies are ganging up and this is a clear sign that they are ready to kick back as Bush goes for the oil and all we need now is for China to come on side and it's all over for the thugs running america.

9/11 was the a start but it has not fooled anyone and many americans would like to ask bush some very serious question about his involment and yet he's so powerfull no one can touch him in this so called democracy sweeping the USA.

Bush just might get us all killed in an effort to boost his vast oil profits.

9/11 was an inside job and the economy is going into meltdown so keep some spare food put by just in case justice is right.
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10-17-2007, 12:15 PM
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Putin warns against Iran attack on landmark visit
Well its not bush who gets you killed, its hillary clinton the next us president.
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10-19-2007, 02:03 AM
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Putin warns against Iran attack on landmark visit
here's another
Quote:Putin warns Washington over missile shield
By Christian Lowe
Thu Oct 18,

MOSCOW (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin warned the United States on Thursday that Russia could take retaliatory measures if Washington failed to take heed of its concerns over a missile defense shield in Europe.

"I can assure you that such steps are being prepared and we will take them. Where we should station what, that is for specialists of the Russian military's general staff," Putin said in response to a question about how to respond to the shield.
The United States plans to place interceptor missiles in Poland and a radar system in the Czech Republic as part of a shield Washington says is needed to counter possible attacks from "rogue states" such as Iran and North Korea.

Russia says the shield is a threat to its security and could spark an arms race, concerns U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates sought to ease in Moscow talks last week. Putin welcomed their efforts.

"The latest contacts with our American colleagues show that they have indeed given some thought to the proposals we made and they are looking for a solution to the problems and for ways to ease our concerns," Putin said.

Putin's comments appeared to echo a warning made in July by First Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov that Russia could deploy new missiles, including in its Baltic enclave of Kaliningrad, in response to the missile shield.

His warning on missile defense was in response to a question from a voter in Kaliningrad, Russia's westernmost outpost, at a three-hour annual question-and-answer session.

The Kremlin leader also said Russia was working on new types of nuclear weapons as part of a "grandiose" plan to boost the country's defenses.

Military experts have speculated that Russia could eventually deploy its new Iskander-M tactical missiles to counter the U.S. missile shield.

POLAND'S RESPONSE

Russian generals say the shield would allow the United States to scan Russia's territory as far as the Urals, and would give the Pentagon the capability to shoot down Russian ballistic missiles soon after launch.

Putin has offered the United States joint use of a Russia-leased radar station in Azerbaijan as an alternative to the missile shield in Europe.

Kaliningrad is surrounded by new NATO members Poland and Lithuania. The city of Kaliningrad -- the former Prussian city of Koenigsberg which was seized by Russia as a World War Two trophy -- is closer to Warsaw than Moscow.

Polish Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski said on Thursday in Warsaw that hosting the shield could help protect his country, citing a possible threat from Russia.

Poland, which votes in a parliamentary election on Sunday, has previously said the shield was not linked to Russia.

"This will boost our security ..... We have to remember that we are in a state of permanent threat. The Russians have not accepted the changes since 1989 and it is obvious that they consider us as within their sphere of influence," he said at a news conference."

Kaczynski was referring to the fall of communism in 1989, which ended Soviet domination over Poland.

(Additional reporting by Natalia Reiter and Conor Sweeney)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071018/ts_nm/...russia_putin_dc


and I have read that
Quote:The Russian people are being oriented to a new enemy. They are being told to fear and hate the Americans. According to Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin, the Russian Desk of British intelligence has warned that Putin may be preparing a new Cold War against America. But this is old news. Those who have been paying attention need no secret intelligence to see what is coming – what has already arrived. The whole period of perestroika and the collapse of communism and the “democracy” of Boris Yeltsin was nothing more than a preparatory interval. And now the preparations are nearing their completion. Russia has begun using its economic weapon – energy. The Europeans pretend that they are independent of Russia, but in reality the game is up. All that is required, in the long run, is the right propaganda. And Putin has discovered this propaganda. By mischaracterizing America’s military plans, Russia plays the injured innocent. By likening Bush to Hitler, and America to the Third Reich, Putin seizes the moral high ground – rallying the international Left to Russia, impressing the dictators of the Third World with his anti-American credentials. At the same time, he sends a warning message to Europe. The world is against America, and you’d better join us.
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Here is the fateful method of launching a nuclear war without fear of retaliation. Note the precondition: false flag terrorism (i.e., gray terror). Note the psychological preparations: Russian nuclear facilities aren’t terribly secure (i.e., Gen. Lebed’s claim, years ago, that Russian warheads were “missing”). Note America’s credulity: (1) Russia is no longer our enemy; (2) Islam is the main threat to America’s survival; (3) the alliance between Russia and China is not aimed at America; (4) America is the lone superpower.

http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/g.../2007/0511.html


RUSSIA'S UNDENIABLE WAR PREPARATIONS
by J. R. Nyquist

Since 1998 I have publicly warned of Russia’s war preparations. The idea of preparing for nuclear war is absurd for most Americans, because the idea of nuclear war makes no sense in a consumer society. However that may be, Russia’s war preparations were as undeniable then as they are today. And Russia is not a consumer society. In the late 1990s Russia was refurbishing huge nuclear war bunkers and building underground cities. The only purpose such bunkers and cities could serve is in relation to a future nuclear war. For a country that was supposedly broke to be spending its precious resources on something so expensive, so far out of the way of “normal” expectations, seemed inexplicable. “Oh well,” people would shrug. “The Russians are used to doing this sort of thing. It gives them psychological comfort. Let them do what they want. It needn’t trouble us.” The public missed the fact, however, that Russia was continuing to violate arms control agreements. It was not admitting to all the nuclear warheads it possessed, and was not reliably disposing of them. It was developing new, deadly, biological and chemical weapons.

Why in the midst of peace, a few short years after the end of the Cold War, were the Russians adhering to this insane path? Were they anticipating a future war?

The answer must be yes. And the answer continues to be yes. In the 1990s Russia forged an alliance with China that involved a growing series of joint military exercises. Why would the Russians do this? Why would they seek to develop a joint military capability that would link Russian missile power with Chinese manpower? For over a decade the Russians have been providing the Chinese with technology and weapons. This is not merely a commercial transaction, as some would insist. These transactions are carefully considered strategic steps. Since the mid-1990s, Russia and China have initiated joint-armaments programs that further solidified their military partnership. It is obsolete thinking to suppose Russia and China are enemies. It must be understood, as a practical matter, that Russia and China are underdog powers locked in a struggle for primacy with the United States. The only sensible strategy, if Russia and China expect to emerge on top, is to unite against the Americans. And that is what the two countries have been doing for the past decade.

http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/g.../2007/0824.html

any opinions on this, Nyquist or his claims ???



also, mildly interesting-
Prophecies concerning Russian invasion of America
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/tsgibson/russiaus.pdf

&Alice laughed, &There's no use trying,& she said: &one can't believe impossible things.& &I daresay you haven't had much practice,& said the Queen. &When I was your age I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.&
- Lewis Carroll

&Things are seldom as they seem ... Skim milk masquerades as cream.&
- Gilbert and Sullivan (Pinafore)

At NASA, it really is rocket science, and the decision makers really are rocket scientists.
But a body of research that is getting more and more attention points to the ways that smart people working collectively can be dumber than the sum of their parts. .. Irwin Janis? &Groupthink:& is a mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive in-group, when the members' striving for unanimity override realistic appraisals ? It is the triumph of concurrence over good sense, and authority over expertise.&
-John Schwartz & Matthew L. Wade
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10-19-2007, 03:01 AM
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Putin warns against Iran attack on landmark visit
Didn't Russia, China, Syria, sign an agreement that if Iran was invaded or attacked they would defend Iran?
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