Anybody notice anything weird lately on the board?

[subgenius]

Quote:Yeah, wolves in sheep's clothing don't stay hidden long in the information age. So, when criminal atrocities are underway it is very hard for REAL people to be down with the agenda of global genocide. You hear that Gnostics!! Who do you think REAL people blame!! Who do you think REAL people think the NWO are anyway? Crowley-Phoenix....Gnostics!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJQFf0qj9Nk

WTF??!??!?1?! :suspicious: I don't get it AT ALL What are you meaning by this. It makes no semblance of sense other than to yourself perhaps. Logical clarification?

and this: Oh, I will leave the Self love to those that that comes naturally to, and they should all join the OTO. I have never believed in self love or self deification. That concept sickens me and is anathema to REAL Christianity.
So yours is the REAL one out of how many variations.... go ahead and give away your personal responsibility, not my problem. Wtf does the O.T.O. have to do with this idea? You must be a flagellist i guess. I am feeling stupid myself that I actually wasted the calories to respond to this drivel.

[SerialExpLain]

And as a bonus, all about chaos magic. Now, that wouldn't be NWO planning or anything, naw....

In fact one link addresses a statement All the Chaotes I've met are assholes

http://www.chaosmatrix.orgbrary/chaos_all.php

[SerialExpLain]

Don't make me laugh, oh illiterate one....read on....

[subgenius]

".....spew more secondhand knowledge and experience here...."

:dazed:

[SerialExpLain]

Can you not see why such nefarious groups - UNIVERSALIS -- (no less) are destined for what the KJV Bible THE WORD says they are destined for.

So, I really don't care what you think. It is what it is. Gnostics hate the Bible because the Bible tells the truth about them, just as those WIKEPEDIA sites tell the truth about them.

Pride comes what now?

So, don't be smug with me.

(Oh, B Love 8 ask HBNWOK what animal I referenced last night. Showed up in one of those links....had no idea it would be there. Must of been one of those synchromysticisms. I think they show up for a reason, lol)

[blove8.]

Quote:So, I really don't care what you think. It is what it is.

Yes, that is quite evident. And yeah, I agree, it is what it is. So, let's come to an agreement on what is. Sound good?

I would like to end this debate right now, forever. If you're willing to end this debate right here and right now, from now on, agree to work with me here on something. If not, I hope someone might gain from what I just typed.

Now, I know that you might feel that this is an attack. I want you to understand that this is not intended to be an attack of any sort (this is not doublespeak either, tho could be perceived as such, i think.. maybe). I'm only looking for clarity of our opinions from my perspective and hoping it helps you clarify yours as well.

A simple 'yes' or 'no' answer should do us just fine. No need for further debate as far as I'm concerned.

ok.

Can we agree that there is a creator of all things, be it us, our existence, the universe, everything... and some call this creator 'God', correct?

Ephesians 3:9 Wrote:"and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things."

ok, so we've established that God created all things.... correct?

This same God, gives us all the will to do as we choose, in other words, God gives us free will.... correct?

Now if we can establish an agreement to those two questions, we've come a long way. That makes me happy. If not, I can agree to disagree about this 'free will' opinion. Sound good?

ok.

Now, if we agree that we are all created by the creator... God. This would mean we are all related, dare I say, somehow connected... correct?

If you disagree with that statement, I can agree to disagree and drop the debate forever.

ok good.. we're getting there.

Since we are all created, all have free will, and are all somehow connected, wouldn't that logically mean that we are what we be?

Since what we be... it is, we are, and this is.

We can agree to that or not.

If not, ok, I accept that we don't agree and I hope you can too. Thusly, ending the debate forever.

[SerialExpLain]

Well, that is something that isn't as open and shut as it seems.

Yes, everything is under the control of an ominiscient and omnipotent Creator. It is no biggy for the Creator to do ANYTHING, including providing THE WORD MADE FLESH in atonement for the sins of all mankind.

But, only a portion of names are written in the Book of Life.

So, no it is not by free will for all. Think of Cain. God KNEW Cain wasn't going to make it.

Something happened, that was not the Creator's ideal plan so in a way, a plan B had to go into effect.

What was kept from Christians and non-Christians alike, but in the year 2007 can no longer be kept from anybody as the tares gathered first. They gathered in secret.

See, they organized in secret those that were interspersed. That would be what was covered in the above links, the sordid details of that GATHERING. Yes, the word GATHERING comes up again in popular culture.
Gathering, the Masquerade.

All throughout the Bible, a division of two is emphasized over and over again.

So, although all MANKIND was created by the Creator. All OTHERKIND, in effect, served a purpose but in actuality they are probably as DJINN. There is an issue of parentage, and it is a big one. And if you read the KJV Bible it is very very consistent throughout that that is what is going on and why the existance of all was not the paradise intended.

The reason it was stressed in the Bible - NO TREE OF KNOWLEDGE -- just don't go there was because of the qlippoth. Not the front side of the tree.

So, now that occured, it is a combination of both. Lineage of those whose names WERE NEVER IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, WILL NEVER INHERIT THE KINGDOM.....why? Because they are incapable of repentance and acceptance of the one time atonement sacrifice. Truly, because of that construct it IS MORE LIKE THEY LIVE. And THEY KNOW THAT. And Christians know more about the NWO's outcome because PROPHECY -- REAL DEAL PROPHECY is STILL HAPPENING. Ok, the Holy Spirit is operative among those of the Kingdom. It is not only the forces of darkness with power. Those of the Kingdom have a different source of their power. It is also for lifting-up those of other religions that are possessed of the Holy Spirit as sins against Jesus WILL BE FORGIVEN. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is something NOONE from the Kingdom could ever do. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is something purposely undertaken by those NOT of the KINGDOM. Why? Because they are not of the Kingdom, never was -- never will be.

If they were from the Kingdom they could accept that and the submission of their will to God. Without that capacity, well obviously that is what was the basis of commonality for groups like Crowley's, etc.

But, by that occurring, that hastens the division time. Why? Because THEY WILL make war with the saints.

Everything that is occuring, has ever occurred, will ever occur is all in the Bible.

So, with that in mind, I say it is what it is. No more, no less.

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Jill Gregory & Karen Tintori's THE BOOK OF NAMES. An amazing read. :wink:

And another "doctrine" by the "father" of modern Gnosticism, Samuel Aun Weor

This Pistis Sophia Unveilled

http://www.gnosiscentral.com/englishbooks/...ia_Unveiled.pdf

Whose into that? Well, J.J. Hurtak for one. And lots of NWO movers and shakers. So, yeah, it all ties togeth B Love 8. NWO-religion is Gnosticism. And the Bible speaks of that and where it will come into play - all throughout, Gnosticism has nothing to do with Christianity it is antithetical to Christianity in every way.

So, the moral of the story. God made lists too.

[blove8.]

ok, so i believe that we have 'free will'.. you don't. right?

i now understand. thank you for your help.

[blove8.]

Quote:

Quote:is this a youtube link battle i am witnessing?

heh not the first time :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-0BLV04vbE...feature=related

LMFAO! :laugh:

[SerialExpLain]

I didn't write THE RULES. So, don't act like it ISN'T SPELLED OUT in the WORD, before Jesus' incarnation He still existed.

And what do you expect when the father of modern Gnosticism is name Weor. Get is B Love 8. Were -- as in wolves among sheep.

http://www.geocities.com/gnosis002/The_P...veiled.pdf

Free will is not for those whose WILL is aimed at self-deification, that is narcissism and psychopaths. No free weill there. Sorry, I did not write THE BOOK.

[blove8.]

Quote:No free weill there. Sorry, I did not write THE BOOK.

Right, your interpretation of the bible is that you or I do not have 'free will'. My interpretation is otherwise.

As subgenius stated, your interpretation gives away your personal responsibility... it's as if you are possessed or something similar.

So, it looks like we have a disagreement here. Therefore, I agree to disagree and hope you will as well.

[subgenius]

Anyone with even a crumb of brain cell left should be able to see what's what in here. "Know thyself " takes on it's ultimate challenge .....

The map is not the territory, nor can it ever be.

[LivingPharaoh]

Quote:Oh, and a double ouroboros (two creatures swallowing one another) in alchemy signifies volatility. :wink:

Oh, it is? Thanks for letting me know. That's very similar to my family crest.

Now what's going on here?

[itmakesmewonder]

why do people say "bless you" when you sneeze !?!?!?!?


Isnt it from the times of The Plague. A sneeze indicated a sign of the Plague and it was supposed to bless the person so they dont die. Also some people think certain spirits can get inside a person at the moment of a sneeze.
BLESS YOU!

[itmakesmewonder]

And was it here that i read the Plague was started and put into the water supply by the Catholics.
Diseases will come and go like always. Still we march onwards:)