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~~---~~ · 09-02-2009, 09:18 PM

No such thing as ethnic groups, genetically speaking
Published: Monday, August 31, 2009 - 18:28 in Psychology & Sociology

Central Asian ethnic groups are more defined by societal rules than ancestry. Researchers writing in the open access journal BMC Genetics found that overall there are more genetic differences within ethnic groups than between them, indicating that separate 'ethnic groups' exist in the mind more than the blood. Evelyne Heyer, from the Musée de l'Homme in Paris, France, led an international team of researchers who studied mitochondrial DNA and Y chromosome data from several populations of two major language ethnic groups of Central Asia, the Turkic and Indo-Iranian groups. She said, "Our results indicate that, for at least two of the Turkic groups in Central Asia, ethnicity is a constructed social system maintaining genetic boundaries with other groups, rather than being the outcome of common genetic ancestry".

The boundaries used by individuals to distinguish themselves from members of other ethnic groups are generally cultural, linguistic, economic, religious and political. Heyer and her colleagues confirm the absence of common ancestry in a specific ethnic group; there were on average more differences between members of the same ethnic group than there were between groups. Speaking about these findings, Heyer said, "Analysis of genetic data, such as in this study, is an important tool for investigating ethnological issues"

http://esciencenews.com/articles/2009/08/3...ically.speaking

Genetic diversity and the emergence of ethnic groups in Central Asia

Evelyne Heyer email, Patricia Balaresque email, Mark A Jobling email, Lluis Quintana-Murci email, Raphaelle Chaix email, Laure Segurel email, Almaz Aldashev email and Tanya Hegay email

BMC Genetics 2009, 10:49doi:10.1186/1471-2156-10-49
Published: 1 September 2009
Abstract (provisional)

Background

In this study, we used genetic data that we collected in Central Asia, in addition to data from the literature, to understand better the origins of Central Asian groups at a fine-grained scale, and to assess how ethnicity influences the shaping of genetic differences in the human species. We assess the levels of genetic differentiation between ethnic groups on one hand and between populations of the same ethnic group on the other hand with mitochondrial and Ychromosomal data from several populations per ethnic group from the two major linguistic groups in Central Asia.
Results

Our results show that there are more differences between populations of the same ethnic group than between ethnic groups for the Y chromosome, whereas the opposite is observed for mtDNA in the Turkic group. This is not the case for Tajik populations belonging to the Indo-Iranian group where the mtDNA like the Y-chomosomal differentiation is also significant between populations within this ethnic group. Further, the Y-chromosomal analysis of genetic differentiation between populations belonging to the same ethnic group gives some estimation of the minimal age of these ethnic groups. This value is significantly higher than what is known from historical records for two of the groups and lends support to Barth's hypothesis by indicating that ethnicity, at least for these two groups, should be seen as a constructed social system maintaining genetic boundaries with other ethnic groups, rather than the outcome of common genetic ancestry
Conclusions

Our analysis of uniparental markers highlights in Central Asia the differences between Turkic and Indo-Iranian populations in their sex-specific differentiation and shows good congruence with anthropological data.

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/10/49/abstract

mastermg · 09-02-2009, 10:00 PM

What now Joos:)

~~---~~ · 09-02-2009, 10:57 PM

What Now? Juice.. sounds cool B)

09-03-2009, 01:54 AM

Quote:Researchers writing in the open access journal BMC Genetics found that overall there are more genetic differences within ethnic groups than between them, indicating that separate 'ethnic groups' exist in the mind more than the blood.

Bullshit. Do I imagine the ni**er in the porn film has an 11 inch dick? A thicker skull? More body mass on average?

No, were ARE NOT all the same be it in colour, stature, physique or perhaps even intelligence.

If you don't like what I said, fuck off! I'm tired of your politically correct "diversity".

mexika · (This post was last modified: 09-03-2009 05:43 AM by mexika.)

There is differences... Genetically, cultural, social, even philosophically... Native Americans view of the earth is comparable to many Indigenous people on the planet and it also varies to the modern savages...

by the way, mine is 13....

09-03-2009, 07:49 AM

LOL Mex.

I'm glad you see the issue for what it is.

Try not to scare the women away with that thing.

***Shinobi*** · 09-05-2009, 10:05 AM

LMFAO

~~---~~ · (This post was last modified: 09-06-2009 03:19 AM by ---.)

Quote:Central Asian Turkic groups

yeti · 09-06-2009, 05:24 AM

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Quote:Researchers writing in the open access journal BMC Genetics found that overall there are more genetic differences within ethnic groups than between them, indicating that separate 'ethnic groups' exist in the mind more than the blood.
Bullshit. Do I imagine the ni**er in the porn film has an 11 inch dick? A thicker skull? More body mass on average?

No, were ARE NOT all the same be it in colour, stature, physique or perhaps even intelligence.

If you don't like what I said, fuck off! I'm tired of your politically correct "diversity".

The point is that there is far more genetic variation within an ethnic group than between different ethnic groups. This is a fact. It's something to consider when stereotyping races.

It's also a good idea to keep in mind the difference between how culture and genetics affect the personality of an individual...

mastermg · (This post was last modified: 09-06-2009 05:49 AM by mastermg.)

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Quote:
Quote:Researchers writing in the open access journal BMC Genetics found that overall there are more genetic differences within ethnic groups than between them, indicating that separate 'ethnic groups' exist in the mind more than the blood.
Bullshit. Do I imagine the ni**er in the porn film has an 11 inch dick? A thicker skull? More body mass on average?

No, were ARE NOT all the same be it in colour, stature, physique or perhaps even intelligence.

If you don't like what I said, fuck off! I'm tired of your politically correct "diversity".
The point is that there is far more genetic variation within an ethnic group than between different ethnic groups. This is a fact. It's something to consider when stereotyping races.

It's also a good idea to keep in mind the difference between how culture and genetics affect the personality of an individual...

Fact is joos come in different flavors! :D

09-06-2009, 05:30 PM

Quote:Fact is joos come in different flavors! :D

Ever found a flavor you like yet?

mastermg · (This post was last modified: 09-06-2009 09:21 PM by mastermg.)

Yeah, any organic home-grown joos:)

09-08-2009, 06:25 AM

Quote:Fact is joos come in different flavors! :D

Ever found a flavor you like yet?

Quote:Yeah, any organic home-grown joos:)

"home grown Jews"? What's that? A subtle difference btween a Zionist in Jerusalem who eats
kosher versus a lazy yankee Jew in New York that doesn't?

I honestly ask myself as I post this, am I more down on Israeli's and Jews than the resident Palestinian on concen?

mastermg · 09-08-2009, 07:30 AM

I just thought it would be funny to write that. I fight for the Palestinians, Jews already got what they wanted and more. Fuck um. Even the so called anti-Zionist Jews aren't against Israel because they are sympathetic to us, they have their own goals.

09-10-2009, 03:48 AM

Quote:Even the so called anti-Zionist Jews aren't against Israel because they are sympathetic to us.

That makes no sense. At least not to me.