Some recent Ron Paul related stuff

[SiLVa]

Good points made here all around. I still do support RP based on his views, and what he says, BUT all I can do is watch what happens because even still I hear and see things that Im not happy with.
something else I found...
an interview with Paul he names a possible running mate...
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2007...babies_pro.html

excerpt:

Quote:Sleuth: If you were to defy the polls and the odds and win the nomination, who would be your running mate?

Paul: Well, I don't know, but if I won, you know, I'd want a recount. You know, lets be certain about what's going on here.

But a running mate. Somebody like Walter Williams. Walter Williams is a very good economist. John Stossel, John Stossel would be good.

Walter Williams? Bio on Walter Williams

Quote:He is a member of the Mont Pelerin Society, American Economic Association and the Bohemian Club of San Francisco.

The guy does radio shows for Rush Limbaugh... I dont want him being one bullet away from becoming President. FUCK THAT!!!
This better not happen.

[edro]

I've said it previously, this time I'll attempt to shout louder.

Stop putting faith in an empty system. The game is rigged. The popular vote for the executive branch means squat! They bankrupted our ancestors and they are going to do it again. So, what are we going to do about it? Keep voting - perhaps we could vote it all away? Doubt it. But please, keep gobbling up their propaganda like 'vote or die' as if you really had a say. On the other hand, I'm kinda glad we have the electoral college because Americans, in general, are irrational peasants.

I've been accused of having DBS as my messiah whereas I could easily make the charge that many people are praying to and worshipping ron paul as if he is the second coming of christ. Don't take my word for anything, go listen to what the man is saying. He is raising legitimate questions and concerns that everyone should be thinking. But in America, we have an unthinking majority and if things get ugly we just cover them with makeup.

Please. Please. Please. Please. PLEASE. Stop believing in political candidates. They will say anything to get a vote. Unfortunately, this common wisdom seems to be rare among the common folk.

Look, RP has had 6 years to push for 9/11 re-investigations etc. Has he ever yet attempted to do so? Perhaps he has a favorable voting record. Congratulations, Ronnie. What good does that do us? How does that defeat the bad guys? How does that stop the shenanigans that the zionists have pulled in the last century? They couldn't care less about us. They only need us to be a host so they can continue to leach off of us.

Ron Paul is the new dogmatic religion, question it and you will be persecuted and tomatoed. If delusional can be said to be anything, it would be believing that RP is just keeping quiet until he wins the election as there is no evidence of it. And that once he does, he will literally solve all of our problems. If you believe that, you might as well also get ready for the rapture and the return of Jesus Christ. It is not probable.

Ron Paul is going to be to politics what Loose Change and Alex Jones are to conspiracy research: a controlled opposition that causes people loosen their guards and go back to sleep while shifting blame away from actual culprits. The motivations of someone who incessantly preaches Ron Paul as America's sole truth and savior should have their motives come into question.

These people know they are losing and think they can outsmart those who know the game by offering a sweet, tasty snack thats attractive and says the right things. And if we are naive enough to not even question it, then perhaps these people do deserve to rule the earth. They will have won the game, fair and square

[burtlancast]

DBS circus in full swing lately; now he's after his old partner, Hufschmid !!

"If you can't see through this deception, then something's wrong with your vision. And why would Hufschmid delete 40% of our interviews?"

Everybody is a fake !

Trust no one !!

HA HA HA !!

:freaked: :freaked: :geek:

Trust my vision !!

:dazed::dazed: :cool:

[Crimson]

Well I haven't read this whole thread, but here is my opinion

Ron Paul is on our side
DBS sucks

[Admin123456]

Ten reasons why I DO NOT trust Ron Paul

1. Ron Paul gets supported by alternative media guys like Alex Jones who are proven to be selling half truths to people. Alex Jones for example supports Ron Paul as loyally as possible, even though he critizises everyone who doesnt believe that 911 was an inside job , but so does Ron Paul.
This is strange.

2. Ron Pauls voting records are in total conflict with his enviroment, the most corrupt place on the earth, namely washington dc. A fish cant survive on the land and a bird cant survive under the sea. its impossible.
there must be something wrong.

3. Ron Paul wants to get back to the gold standard. Doesnt he know that the most of the gold of the world is in the hands of the Rothschilds and other ultra rich jewish familys ? If you back up a currency on this, you will be even more hopelessly depended then we are now on these devils, which is practicly unthinkable, but he wants to do this it would be THE final suicide to get back to gold now, because they could control the economy even a thousand times easier by this than they do now!

4. The slogan Ron Paul Revolution, with the word LOVE written backwords. You know what that means?... yes.

5. People follow and trust him blindly and loyally, in a world where you should trust no one except God.

6. He attracts the whole anger , hope and energy of the frustrated people who know there is something very wrong. He critizises the real problem, the banks and wants to get rid of them, he wants to liberate his people and wants to make his country strong again, he even wants a revolution.
This doesnt happen often that a person with such a program is aiming for power.
The last time it happend 75 years ago and ended in the biggest blood bath of the last century.

7.People follow him desperately, even the guys who dont believe in the official 911 lie who should know it better are following him because they believe he supports their concerns. he does not, he says he believes "that 'they' attacked us because we were over there. "
this is total BS but the people dont even seem to care. Why ?? why do they follow him so desperately?
People are avoiding action and believe that ron Paul is the new hope that will manage things for them.
Ron Paul is running people in circles.

8. He worked together with guys that later worked on PNAC, members are mostly big jewish Zionists.
Paul Watson of Prisonplanet for example says, hey it s allright. Everybody does mistakes.
this is an example how foolish people are even though all signs point to avoid Ron Paul.
It s unbelivable how blind they want the people to be , because usually everyone in the orbit of such projects or organisations is the public enemy number one for them, but in the case of R. Paul? Well, it doesnt matter. who cares.

9.Ron Paul is a politician, but for him the people want to make a exeption AGAIN even thought politicians abused theyr trust as hardly as they could not in the past decade but in the whole past century. Its like when you would live in the most criminal area of your town, you would have been robbed several times but when you were seeing a guy at midnight with black clothes and a crow bar snekaing around your house you would throw your house and car key to him with the words its all yours, buddy.



10.I believe that people must get control over their owen lives instead of following mortal leaders,
People must think for theirselves, instead of beeing part of any movement that kills individuality

[Nyte]

No matter what you guys are going to find a bullshit reason not to trust in someone who has shown they care
(AJ,Ron Paul)


Should we all just become green anarchists or something since you trust in no one

[ozlo]

Quote:No matter what you guys are going to find a bullshit reason not to trust in someone who has shown they care
(AJ,Ron Paul)


Should we all just become green anarchists or something since you truth in no one

Some people believe there is a conspiracy behind everything and that no one has good intentions or controls his own actions. The only solution they offer is apathy, preaching to the online choir, and sitting around on their thumbs rather than taking action.

[Nyte]

Now you see how I see it

BTW
Nice signature

[slinkymaster]

soooo much cynicism on these boards. Ron Paul was actually created in a CIA lab to say the same thing for 30 years of his public life, right books about it, and then all of the sudden he is gonna change his tune and expand our empire.

Yes he did support Reagan, but he also called Reagan a failure and even left the republican party out of disgust. This ideology of apathy only makes you powerless because you feel nothing you can do will ever change anything. If that was true we'd still all be peasants for King Louis the 37th and King Henry the 18th. Get you heads out your asses.

Anyway this will be officially the last of limited post i'll put on here. I cant listen to the conspiracy version of the book of revelations anymore. What is the point of knowing the truth if you use the truth to create a prison for yourself. Ron Paul is not the Manchurian candidate.

now to respond to the top ten list.

1. what the fuck does aj have to do with ron paul other than endorsing him?

2. apparently the people in ron pauls district like him, shocker considering what he is doing on the national level. not to mention the house has all kinds of weirdos in it because people dont really pay attention to the house.

3. at least when we buy the gold back from them we can stop paying interest on it.

4. paranoia cha cha cha. he didnt come up with the sign either

5. im not really sure what number 5 means. but i trust his loyally because even areas where i dont agree with him he shoots straight and i know where he stands.

6.i guess this is a hitler comparison. really? hitler?

7. well even though i know the truth the large majority of the country doesnt, he is making a more rational argument (even if the whole argument is based on a lie) than they hate us for a freedom.

8. damn he worked with some dude on pnac like 20 years ago. CONSPIRACY!!! we have no idea how he knows the guy, how they got hooked up, who the guy was a part of bback when they work together etc.

on a side note to this about the williams guy who he mentioned as a vp possible. did you notice the guy was black? maybe he just joined these groups not because he wants to destroy the world, but maybe because there are powerful people in them who could help the guy advance personally in life. did i mention he was black? if george bush was black some redneck would of killed him by now.

9. if i had more time i'd tally up the amount of times there was a 434-1 vote in the house and rp was the 1.

10. unfortuanely that is not possible at this point in human history. and if it is please cite 1 example in the last 6000 years. sadly you have taking individual control of you life and determined that your life is usless because you are not capable of doing anything other than thinking for yourself, which will get you real far if you dont do anything with it.

go ahead and call me a blind follower, heaven forbid i wake up and not feel despair everyday and still have some hope that change is possible through the system.

At least I dont live in a world of fear.

[Admin123456]

I just will answer on the third point , because it is the most important.

so with what will you gonna buy back the gold from THEM ? with the money THEY printed ? Probably you like ron Paul because he ciritizes the Federal Reserve Bank, but you do not even know what the Federal Reserve Bank really is. It was set up by people, they were as rich and powerful that they could set up a central bank for an entire country and this central bank is in private hands.
do you know why your and my country suffered so hard on hyper inflation in WW II ?
It was because the goverments lended money from the bankers to finance their war because they couldn't pay their troops and tanks buy shells or coffeebeans.
So an immense sum of more money was pumped into the system out of nothing, so of course the actual worth of the money fall extremly because the ammount of money rise!
Look at Iraq war, how your country makes BILLIONS of dollars new debt each day, this is just the same. The banks own your country, like mine. They run everything. The print a 100 Dollar costs them 8ct. and they lend it to your goverment for 100 dollar plus interest. that means 99,92 plus for them plus interest.


So I can not believe that to buy back the gold from the persons who stole it or bought it with worthless paper money we borrowed from them and even gave our homes and land as collateral for it would be the solution, it is the exact opposite, at this point the serpents will bite herself in its own tail.

[Vomitor]

What exactly is it that is exposed about ron paul in that glenn beck interview (i assume you mean this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZXWW4C2kpE)? From the reactions i can gather that people are pissed off that he doesnt mention 9-11 as an inside job, or anything agreesively about israel...even if he has these views but what exactly what you expect him to say? As others have mentioned, it would be devastating for his campaign and be fodder for an easy smear campaign, that should be pretty obvious. So you know that Ron Paul is basically gonna play into the system..what else can the man do? And do you think its strange that he knows people that have been in places like bohemian grove? To get on top you cant just avoid these kinds of people, the main difference is do you work together with people or do you conspire?

Great that people point out suspicious connections, but many seem to ignore that every one of us has to many times in our lives with assholes, and ron paul cannot just put on his blinders and pretend he can get around it all by going a straight line through the shitfield. Let the man become president ffs sake, even though i dont believe at all that he will be. And yes, if people think RP is gonna save the universe, they deserve to be conned, but some asshole is gonna become it anyway so why not let him try. I cant believe that any of you could honestly say you would want Hillary or Guilliani instead...in this case i would really go for the lesser of a whole lotta evils

[NtCkEr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-iJKwskH4

No visas for students from "terrorist nations" ?

He isn't suggesting starting the deportation of foreign students (yet ?), but surely this is highly suspecious to say the least.

[burtlancast]

Quote:I just will answer on the third point , because it is the most important.

so with what will you gonna buy back the gold from THEM ? with the money THEY printed ? Probably you like ron Paul because he ciritizes the Federal Reserve Bank, but you do not even know what the Federal Reserve Bank really is. It was set up by people, they were as rich and powerful that they could set up a central bank for an entire country and this central bank is in private hands.
do you know why your and my country suffered so hard on hyper inflation in WW II ?
It was because the goverments lended money from the bankers to finance their war because they couldn't pay their troops and tanks buy shells or coffeebeans.
So an immense sum of more money was pumped into the system out of nothing, so of course the actual worth of the money fall extremly because the ammount of money rise!
Look at Iraq war, how your country makes BILLIONS of dollars new debt each day, this is just the same. The banks own your country, like mine. They run everything. The print a 100 Dollar costs them 8ct. and they lend it to your goverment for 100 dollar plus interest. that means 99,92 plus for them plus interest.


So I can not believe that to buy back the gold from the persons who stole it or bought it with worthless paper money we borrowed from them and even gave our homes and land as collateral for it would be the solution, it is the exact opposite, at this point the serpents will bite herself in its own tail.

Great post for a 10 year old.
There is a torrent here from Edgar J Griffin called a short course on monetary history; study it and comeback to apologise.

[Guest]

Quote:

Quote:No matter what you guys are going to find a bullshit reason not to trust in someone who has shown they care
(AJ,Ron Paul)


Should we all just become green anarchists or something since you truth in no one

Some people believe there is a conspiracy behind everything and that no one has good intentions or controls his own actions. The only solution they offer is apathy, preaching to the online choir, and sitting around on their thumbs rather than taking action.

Campaigning on a platform of taking US troops out of Iraq can not be taken away from him and it shows a determination to end conflict in that arena.

His dedication to statism and lower taxation, gunownership rights,scrapping the FR and wider US economic protectionism obviously will strike a chord with long suffering Americans and that is understandable. Whoever is elected as your premier has repercussions for pretty much all the world - if not militarily then largely throught economic effects of influence from transnational corporations with strong base connection to the USA. On most of his campaign manisfesto I too totally favour the Ron Paul camp.

However, IMO, OTOH standing also on the abolishment of all overseas foreign aid whilst also campaigning on a ballot thats not only completely perpetuates the global economic carte blanche transnationals have but actually increases their sway. This paradox is dodgy and the policies reflect potentially to where his camp is ultimately cowed to. securing limited resistance to plans for major federal government reform by enabling aggressive free reign transational corp. interests jmo

Whether or not haaretz omitted him from their coverage of candidates and other such media bias against him shouldn't completely preclude any critique of RP's manisfesto nor provoke general allegations of procrastination.

The primaries haven't got off to a great start for him and what with the counts controlled it's probably a mute point anyway.

I still hope we would win as he campaigns against continuing US led slaughter in the ME and is brazenly anti conformist in comparison to the others running.

cheers

[Admin123456]

burtlancaster, your argument doesnt make much sence, at least its not even an argument.

I just want you to remember that politicians tell you every shit you want to hear.

CNN and the rest of the gang make or brake your president, not you, the people. If Ron Paul was this exeption to the rule, they would have done already everything in their powers to destroy him, but they do not, this prooves he is the Wolf in sheep clothings.

Just look at it, I'm Not from the US , but in my oppinion all people should be fighting, protesting and crying out as loud as they can, because your country is as close to the edge as it can possibly be, and the NWO depends totally on America.

but all the people who are against this may i call it "One World Goverment" will just be running around the next year until the election with a Ron Paul Revolution T Shirt.

they will sacrifice all their power, hope, energy, individuality and own thoughts and ideas for this totally daft movement, which is doomed to betray you utterly.