Some recent Ron Paul related stuff

[SiLVa]

Dont get me wrong I like the guy at face value but we know shit gets much deeper here so that being said....
What do you make of the recent revelations of lately? Him being apart of the machine in general for starters but, helping Reagan, somethin aint right? or what about
Ron Paul writing a book with this PNAC Lewis E Lehrman fellow? or him being endorsed by Barry Goldwater Jr.? Abstaining from key votes on issues he's even campaigned on...Some campaign donations...His stance on the Gold issue doesnt seem right to me either...just having some feelings we're being set up or some other shenanigans.
I mean Ive been behind the guy and I agree with alot of what he says. If I had to vote I would vote for him but I just dont know... Part of me is 100% sure Hillary is gonna win anyway but I feel like I have to vote against her...at the same time Im wary about being a contributor to this political circus

another "coincidental" thing I found that didnt leave me confident...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-FiXTgKFo

So is he just another politician? ... thoughts?

[rockclimber]

Quote:Dont get me wrong I like the guy at face value but we know shit gets much deeper here so that being said....
What do you make of the recent revelations of lately? Him being apart of the machine in general for starters but, helping Reagan, somethin aint right? or what about
Ron Paul writing a book with this PNAC Lewis E Lehrman fellow? or him being endorsed by Barry Goldwater Jr.? Abstaining from key votes on issues he's even campaigned on...Some campaign donations...His stance on the Gold issue doesnt seem right to me either...just having some feelings we're being set up or some other shenanigans.
I mean Ive been behind the guy and I agree with alot of what he says. If I had to vote I would vote for him but I just dont know... Part of me is 100% sure Hillary is gonna win anyway but I feel like I have to vote against her...at the same time Im wary about being a contributor to this political circus

another "coincidental" thing I found that didnt leave me confident...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-FiXTgKFo

So is he just another politician? ... thoughts?

Not sure Silva, these latest revelations are making me rethink things...but really hesitant to give you a reply that would be satisfying...:(

[edro]

"How dare you question Ron Paul!" There are people out there who hold this attitude and believe this man can do no wrong.

How many more times are the American public going to be suckered by false hopes and promises of politicians? It is no wonder they call the 'goyim' which means cattle. The American people have been conditioned into docile sheep that do as they are told. They are smart enough to run the machines and keep the showing going, but too dumb to think critically. It is that way purposely, keep that in mind. If you are going to control people you must keep them dumbed down.

What sets Ron Paul above the best? Because he advocates conservative (in the true sense), limited government? I admit, he does talk a good game on some things. I'm sure there are other things that I'm forgetting to mention that he also talks a good game upon.

However, I want to remind people of what he [i]isn't talking about. This man is still talking about Osama bin Laden, the 'terrorists', and how 'they' hate us because of our foreign policy. We know this is nonsense. And please stop making excuses for him such as "well, he can speak the truth or else he'll have his character assassinated by the media." So what, everyone gets shit on by the media. Stop making excuses for leaders that are consciously misrepresenting the truth, not just Ron Paul, but all of them. Put pressue on them to speak the truth, regardless of consequence. Until Americans do just that, they will get what they deserve: lying criminals in public office who put the interests of a foreign nation (Israel) ahead of the host population (American public).

Need I remind people of Ron Paul's close association with Alex "Zion-lover" Jones? Not to mention him co-authoring a book with neo-con king Lewis Lehrman who was one of the PNAC signatories. Ron Paul is still standing behind the conclusions of that book, which advocate a return to the gold standard. However, the very same criminals own and control the gold. So we would be returning, in essence, to a system with the same crooks in control. Am I the only one who smells something rotten? Connect the dots of his assocations, he's one of the boys. He takes his marching orders from Ludwig Von Mises Institute and Murray Rothbard, another pair of Zionist-dominated groups.

He talks about doing away with the Federal Reserve and the IRS. Why isn't he telling his constituents the truth about why he have those institutions and who controls them. He has a duty and responsiblity to his constituents. He talks about the Constitution and how glorious of statesmen the founders were. Do you think Jefferson, Adams, and Franklin would obfuscate like Ron is doing? Do you think they would run away from telling the truth? The man is bright enough to understand the economic system, I think he's smart enough to identify who's running these institutions. Ron Paul is many things but stupid is not one of them.

You have to think of this situation like an analogy. Take hunter and beast for example. The hunter lays traps and sets up bait to catch the beast. The bait is always tempting and attractive to the beast. The hunt is nothing more than a game of intelligence & deception - outsmarting & trapping your opponent. Ron Paul is the bait for the patriotic community of americans who are well-meaning citizens, aware of the misleading of the nation by this zionist cabal. This group knows they are not smart enough to smell a trap because they will get emotionally-wrapped around a candidate (Ron Paul) who says the right things to pull at their strings. A perfect example of how leaders will say anything to get votes is Bush in 2000. He was speaking truth and gave people the impression (and they foolishly bought it) that he would do the opposite of what he has done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX-FiXTgKFo

Whatever happened to the Ron Paul from 2003 who agreed that there was a concerted effort to overthrow the sovereignty of the United States? He started out agreeing with alot of the 'conspiracy' crowd but he isn't making any more concessions to our constituency.

The executive branch is not the most important branch, unlike Americans are conditioned to believe. The most important branch is the Legislature (the House & Senate). People's votes do not count for executive elections, the only votes that matter are the electoral votes which are cast by your local house representative. They can vote for whomever they wish and are not obligated to vote according to the majority of their constituency. If you are so committed to voting for Ron Paul, you should've voted Republican in the House elections which occur every 2 years. But again, the mass media has the American people's heads shoved so far up their asses they still think their votes count for presidential elections. And we are not even addressing vote fraud via electronic voting. Modern day machinations make government as the founders envisioned impossible because the criminals control the money.

"permit me to issue a nations currency and i care not who makes the laws" mayer amschel rothschild

[nataraja]

after some thought it would make sense for the power elite to give the illusion of a new politcal idealogy that is in charge, wether ron paul is "in on it" or realy beleives what he is saying is another question altogether.

i do think that the overall message of political and economic change is a move for the positive, as long as its moving in some what the right direction then i might be able to smoke a cigerette with my breakfast at some point in my life again.

this as mentioned, fundamentalist "ron paul is my hero", dogmatic following, is expected and goes hand in hand with the american political process. bunch of flag waving-hero loving population. if ron paul doesnt come out with the true reality once he is elected i will be dissapointed.

arrest the current administration and charge them on several criminal charges, not to mention the bankers, and the national debt. just lock them all up and wipe the debt.

but noo he has to "faze" it out, whatever that means, i just hope we dont look back in 5 years and say "fuck we were duped again"

when quotes like "let it not be said that we did nothing" will take an entire new meaning

[rsol]

why do i get the feeling we are being infiltrated from every corner?

[byrd]

i guess this is the best place to post this:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=marcaeld

what exactly makes him so different from the rest of them??

[byrd]

btw great post edro.

[SiLVa]

FOR FUX SAKE!!! I just watched that whole Glen Beck interview, and I recommend everyone else do too. I am not happy with Ron Paul. He says he thinks we need to let israel take care of themselves- that we hold them back, and on top of all that his POV on 9/11- My God people...we're being had...

[edro]

if you want to know about someone then look at the company they keep.

Apply that to Ron Paul and you find countless Zionists - Alex Jones, Aaron Russo, Lewis Lehrman, et al.

If you don't think he is working hand in glove with Jones then have a look at this: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/decem...ud_slinging.htm

Alex is his cheerleader/bodyguard. Why so defensive Alex??? Hahaha DBS is having an impact!!!!!!!!

[ephilution]

Quote:The vast majority of 9/11 truthers and Ron Paul supporters in general realize this but for those who also like to claim that Alex Jones is a "Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor," a Zionist or even a shape-shifting reptoid, their bizarre self-destructive cynicism prevents them from ever contributing towards positive activism and change because of their ninnying egotistic obsession with claiming that everyone but them is in on the conspiracy.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/decem...ud_slinging.htm

Watson accuses others of leveling ad hominem attacks but judging from the above excerpt ironically and hypocritically he demonstrates being not allergic to doing it himself either. This blatant act of desperation patently born out of sheer frustration means that the pressure applied from the critics of Paul is making dents in the Jones camp, even though admittedly some criticism may be ill-justified.

[Nyte]

oh jesus christ... some of you make my brain fry in a abd way

[ozlo]

Quote:oh jesus christ... some of you make my brain fry in a abd way

No doubt.

Some of you are playing right into the hands of the powers that be. Maybe you should be thanking Glenn Beck for exposing Ron Paul. LOL Ron Paul was playing politics...consider the audience he was addressing. Just imagine where he would be if he came right out and said "911 was an inside job!" A third of his supporters would probably drop off and he'd become even more of a vulnerable target by the media. He has indeed stated in the past that he supports a new investigation due to unanswered questions.

Anyway, it's not like he's losing many voters from this interview. Those who are up in arms weren't planning on voting anyway, or don't support him because they believe there is no hope for the future, everything's a conspiracy, or you're still trying to debate whether it is the Zionists or the Jesuits who are responsible for everything that is wrong in the world.

[SiLVa]

Phil youre exactly right...that whole article is dripping with hypocricy. I saw that the minute I read it. My interpretation of that article was...
"Stop questioning US. Question only who WE say to question. And anyone that WE say is a good guy, you NEED to trust...Stop being a loony conspiracy nut!"

[ephilution]

Quote:Phil youre exactly right...that whole article is dripping with hypocricy. I saw that the minute I read it. My interpretation of that article was...
"Stop questioning US. Question only who WE say to question. And anyone that WE say is a good guy, you NEED to trust...Stop being a loony conspiracy nut!"

Exactly Silva... Too bad really, I used to appreciate the Watson brothers for their eloquence and astuteness.

[Guest]

I read Hillary was going to be president in 2008. I read
this when she was not even a senator yet fwiw.