Michael Tsarion Under Fire

[IanPotter]

That similarities can be observed in terms of basic brain functioning between species is one thing. The term reptilian brain is simply an analytical construct and bears no relationship whatsoever to real-life reptilian genetics or DNA; or human for that matter. The concept of the reptilian brain having more than a coincidental relationship with the human brain is no more supported by hard evidence than any of the other historical explanations of our basic drives, such as Freud's writings on the Id for example, which covers very similar ground and makes rather more intuitive good sense without spinning it off into space.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but schools DO NOT teach that the human race is a reptilian hybrid. You didn't actually say that they did it's true, but I can imagine some wishful thinkers reading that into what you did say. I'm not getting at you BTW, I just find the reptile thing rather ridiculous - and my take on it all is that it was given to you by the elites to keep you entertained, overwhelmed and helpless.

(PS: Should a reptile walk up to me and shake my hand one day I reserve the right to retract this statement!)

[markko]

Quote:Please correct me if I'm wrong, but schools DO NOT teach that the human race is a reptilian hybrid. You didn't actually say that they did it's true, but I can imagine some wishful thinkers reading that into what you did say. I'm not getting at you BTW, I just find the reptile thing rather ridiculous - and my take on it all is that it was given to you by the elites to keep you entertained, overwhelmed and helpless.

Oh, one would need to really twist my words to get the idea I support reptile theory. Quite contrary, I think it's laughable.
What I've been talking about is not about DNA of reptiles/shapeshifting, etc, but kind of behaving more common for lower species than humans. The word "reptile" has really nothing to do with reptiles at all, there are just some similarities in the R-complex and reptile brain, and that's where the complex got it's name.

[IanPotter]

Quote:Quite contrary, I think it's laughable. What I've been talking about is not about DNA of reptiles/shapeshifting, etc, but kind of behaving more common for lower species than humans. The word "reptile" has really nothing to do with reptiles at all, there are just some similarities in the R-complex and reptile brain, and that's where the complex got it's name.

Then we are in compete agreement marko, as I suspected all along. I never really imagined you were one of Dickies gullible flock, but we both know they're out there and I thought it best to put a lid over that particular rabbit hole before the disciples turned up and jumped in feet first! You know how difficult they can be to rescue once their objectivity transmutes into the blind acceptance of any old nonsense Tavistock knocks up.

[scaramanga667]

Just finished watching the Origins & Oracles series a few days ago, gotta say that for the most part I think it's reasonably coherent and sensible.

The alien genetic interference stuff is a little whacked, but not so far fetched as to be impossible. Seems to me that unless we thoroughly scour every square inch of the earth, including the ocean floors, down to a mile or 2 deep, or find some old alien bunker buried somewhere, we will probably never know if there's any hard evidence for it. The whole thing about the US raiding baghdad museums and stuff is a little suss in this regard. It could be that a big part of the ultimate reasoning behind the whole gig over there is be to find these hidden places and artifacts and cover them up.

Some of his ETYMOLOGY (not semantics, sic) is a bit of a stretch, but most of it seems quite sensible. I did note a few of those bits down and did a little checking into the etymology. Although not even close to exhaustive, I did find that most of what I checked was correct.

The only single thing that kinda irked me was the Australian coin bit. In a string of dragon symbology examples, he puts up a pic of a coin with Australia written on, the queens head etc all correct, but a dragon stamped on the front. All he says was "On this australian coin, we see a dragon". Anyone like me who lives down here would immediately go OI I NEVER SEEN THAT IN MY CHANGE AT THE PUB!!! So I spent half an hour googling it and finally found that the coin was from a "Chinese new year collection" apparently minted in Australia but only sold in the US. Fair enough though, he didn't say it was a normal coin used everyday here, but the implication through lack of explanation was evident, at least that's what I assumed he meant at first. Apart from the stuff that simply cannot be proved, which could have come from anywhere including forced inclusion from TPTB, the coin and maybe a few other things that I didn't check are the only examples of disinformation I could see. And as an example of disinformation, the coin is pretty weak. Like others have said, most of his research is fairly well documented, but some things like this well could have been intentional fluff fakes designed to fill in the gaps and falsely enlarge the scope of the greater work. Even this does not negate the value of the majority of it that is verifiable.

Have seen a few of his other vids and read his book. Apart from the Tiamat planet caused the flood thing and the alien dna angle, I think he is a pretty decent sort of researcher to look to for info in a general way, but I would never contemplate calling him master.

I lost count of how many times he said "we want to share this information with you..." Who is we??? I thought it was just him.

One other thing in the vids struck me as odd. Can't recall exactly where in the vid he said it, but once when referring to the alien angle, he said "if you buy into this..." which struck me as bizarre since he (we?) is the one vehemently advocating it.

[infamouskiller]

Ive seen his videos he does have alot intresting stuff for sure.

But sorry aliens did not make us or atlantis. We are not aliens we have 2 eyes a nose testicles and repoductive organs. like all animals on this planet. we have blood red as every other creature.

maybe some primitive people got raped by alien men.

but it would have to be done ona massive scale to effect our humanity.

one or 2 alien rapings would not do much.

cept make a couple deformed humans that would die off.

Sorry all his stuff borderlines scientology.

if you heard hims peak.

sorry but it does.

[horseonwheels]

It is funny that you bring scientology to the table. I have for a while been suspecting that they are fairly influential in our movement, if you can call it that. I have no evidence for it, but hear me out on a few observations i have made that very much parralels that of scientology.

Obsession with copyright, claiming to be of highly spiritual origin, but strangely enough very obsessed with earthly goods and gain. Its all, everything is because of some evil aliens, who have millenium falcon technology but apparently not enough of it to just jackboot the earth to its will. Then there is the vitamin craze, which is as taken right out of a xenu manual. According to Tom Cruise, all mental illness in the world are going to go away if we just eat vitamins en mass.

It is true that a good health will get you far, but vitamins can be excessed, and a good health requires more than filling your head with them. Truth is, all youll get out of over eating them from non natural means (food) is a healhty toilet. Then theres all the MLM's build on the same principle altso on the loose, distorting the truth stream with biased garbage.

There are a lot of the main "truth speakers" who follow that same pattern. you know the names, but i will refrain from namedropping because i have no evidence (and evidence of what?), i just think its odd thats all.

[LeveL]

Tsarion says his O&O series is "60 hours" long.

Its not though, its 40 hours 14 Minutes...

Atlantis, Alien Visitation & Genetic Manipulation - 10 HRS 49 MINS
2012, Where History Ends - 08 HRS 17 MINS
Divination & the Goddess Tradition - 04 HRS 36 MINS
Weapons of Mass Deception, Behind the New World Order - 05 HRS 43 MINS
Astro-Theology & Sidereal Mythology - 05 HRS 31 MINS
The Subversive Use of Sacred Symbolism in the Media - 05 HRS 18 MINS

Tsarion talks slower on those O&O videos too.

I actually think his 3 hour Granada Forum video (a free video) is better than the O&O vids.

He does say some interesting stuff like when he says "Genesis" is "the generation of Isis" it makes me wonder.

[plasticfan]

Alan Watt says Michael Tsarion is being funded to push New Age Mystery Religion.


http://conspiracyclothes.com/nowheretoru...an_vid.wmv



(( Chris White made this video attacking Alan Watt for pushing Jesus as Astrological myth ))

[earthling]

Chris White is a jack ass. Watt talks a lot of shit and that is probably what happened with red ice. The history of the world is anyone's fucking guess. If you love revisionist history, Michael Tsarion has much to contribute. His new two volume work is about 1100 pages. The appendix is online at: http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/..._startpage.html

[IanPotter]

Quote:Watt talks a lot of shit

Please could you give details of all the "shit" you believe AW to have talked.

[Dexter]

Quote:It is funny that you bring scientology to the table. I have for a while been suspecting that they are fairly influential in our movement, if you can call it that.

You’re probably right about the connections and infiltration. But Scientology may not be at its root. Crowley probably is.

Crowley and Hubbard were associates and Crowley taught him a lot. There’s a connection between Scientology and Thelema on a fundamental level.

Crowley has had great influence on almost all secret societies since his time. Tsarion is a big fan of him as well. So yeah, it’s easy to see connections once you have an eye for it

[houdini]

wonder why Watt got asked to not appear on red ice anymore???
:quiet:

apparently there's enough pie for everyone if you... TOE THE LINE
right michael, david?

[interzone]

new age ,,,, i think there was a profficy club vid that dealt with the creation of the idea ....

[markko]

Tsarion on archeology?
I wouldn't waste a second on what he has to say about archeology. It's all based on myths and ridicolous reasoning, backed up by proofs which were made as a photoshop contest pictures and urban legends... Tsarion really has no clue about archeology and he never saw any digging and any research done in the field. Most of his "research" is based on bullshit, fairy tales of giants for scaring kids and very naive people.

[fjaneson]

The Nephilim er rather, the Giants-just beat the Patriots in the Super Baal.