LATEST INFO FROM LEO ZAGAMI ANTI MASON ( at least that's what they say on Masonic Info)

[nietzscheansuperman]

Oh and that still didn't confirm that he couldn't log on as he asked you to do Og so I guess we will just have to take his word for it :barf: (BTW I sent Ognir a PM asking him to answer Leo's question and varify his claims, I guess luckily for Leo that's not possible)

[LoopRadar]

Quote:Oh and that still didn't confirm that he couldn't log on as he asked you to do Og so I guess we will just have to take his word for it :barf: (BTW I sent Ognir a PM asking him to answer Leo's question and varify his claims)

That whole issue could easily be sorted by checking the server logs, IP's and a tiny amount of forensics...
(On the other hand CC don't keep tags on all of us, wich is also cool in a way...)

There's so many claims made by and about Leo/Khaled that it's all turning into jambalaya...
And if he is unable to answer the simplest of questions, what am I supposed to think?

LR

[nietzscheansuperman]

In his interviews he pretends that someone is tampering with the phone line and claims it is the illuminati trying to prevent him from speaking therefore I would not put it past him to tamper with the account himself and blame that on the Illuminati. So lets not let him get away on a technicality, the email thing is a little suspicious to me though but I am not an experienced with computers, perhaps someone else out there could tell me how the date said the 28th on my email when he posted it but I had already put it up on here on the 8th of December? Isn't that date supposed to represent the date that it was received?? It is on my computer!

[ephilution]

For what it's worth, I've been away during the day and I will have a closer look at the situation tomorrow. Please don't go because of one member being rude to you Leo. Like I've stated before, insulting behavior will be moderated.

[LoopRadar]

Quote:In his interviews he pretends that someone is tampering with the phone line and claims it is the illuminati trying to prevent him from speaking therefore I would not put it past him to tamper with the account himself and blame that on the Illuminati. So lets not let him get away on a technicality, the email thing is a little suspicious to me though but I am not an experienced with computers, perhaps someone else out there could tell me how the date said the 28th on my email when he posted it but I had already put it up on here on the 8th of December? Isn't that date supposed to represent the date that it was received?? It is on my computer!

Perhaps you can look at this? (and apparantly, so should Leo):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIME
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_tracking

?

It seems fairly obvious to me that there is a dicrepancy in the dates (of the said e-mail) and that it more likely than not is not due to non-human intervention... :geek:

[nietzscheansuperman]

"Please don't go because of one member being rude to you Leo. Like I've stated before, insulting behavior will be moderated."


Leo and I have already sorted that out ephilution, I have assured him that the abuse has stopped but I am glad you feel that way because I have a serial pest who is purposely harassing me at any opportunity he gets. Out of nowhere he hurled abuse at me in this comments page after I stuck up for a friend of mine who was also being abused. I think you will agree that the things he said about incest, etc are not exceptable:


http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/comments...8709088a20269cf


He has plagued me ever since and will not leave me alone, he has been told off by other members and I have threatened to report him so he has toned down the abuse a little but now he just criticizes everything I say just to piss me off, to the point that I am seriously considering not uploading anything anymore. I just uploaded 5 documentaries in a row on a shit connection and all I get is is insults and criticism from a serial troll who has NEVER UPLOADED ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE!!!

Here is the comments page for one of my last torrents but it almost seems like I have become the bad guy as he has baited me and I am now abusing him myself, as you can see I ignored him originally but I couldn't keep it up forever.

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/comments...24309f07bae40a0

Thankyou.

[nietzscheansuperman]

Quote:

Quote:In his interviews he pretends that someone is tampering with the phone line and claims it is the illuminati trying to prevent him from speaking therefore I would not put it past him to tamper with the account himself and blame that on the Illuminati. So lets not let him get away on a technicality, the email thing is a little suspicious to me though but I am not an experienced with computers, perhaps someone else out there could tell me how the date said the 28th on my email when he posted it but I had already put it up on here on the 8th of December? Isn't that date supposed to represent the date that it was received?? It is on my computer!

Perhaps you can look at this? (and apparantly, so should Leo):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIME
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_tracking

?

It seems fairly obvious to me that there is a dicrepancy in the dates (of the said e-mail) and that it more likely than not is not due to non-human intervention... :geek:

Did you mean human or non human interference loopradar?

[Leo Zagami]

Quote:

Quote:Leo since you named this thread "replying to latest info from masonic info" and claim to be a 33rd Degree Mason, then please respond to this:



"created a complete fantasy about receiving this honorary degree/recognition. Perhaps Mr. Young/Zagami would be good enough to produce his patent of membership? Perhaps he would deign to reveal where and when this event occurred - since they are all recorded by the governing Scottish Rite jurisdiction? Then again, we don't think that will happen."

of course more detailed look at my web site and you will find what you need and more.

The power of a 33rd degree depends from the power of the Supreme Council he represents, and that's usually decided by the date on their Patent/Charter , the more old their Charter/ Patent granted from Charleston Mother of all Supreme Councils the better it is! In Italy we have the Number 3 after the "Mother" Council of Charleston of 1801 and the one in France of 1804.
In 1805 the agent of Napoleon , Count Alessandre Auguste de Grasse-Tilly came to Milan to constitute the first Italian Supreme Council of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite in Italy, since then many claims have been made on who is in possession and in charge of the leggittimate de Grasse-Tilly Patent.

The Grande Oriente d'Italia who doesnt have the original de Grasse-Tilly Patent as strangely enough the only Supreme Council in Italy of the A.A.S.R. officialy recognized by the prestigious Supreme Council, 33°, in Washington, DC, the governing body of Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the Southern Jurisdiction, USA and the oldest Supreme Council in the world . But GOI's Supreme Council is not the only one the USA Freemasons are in contact with due to the fact that the original de Grasse-Tilly Patent is in the hands of far more secretive and powerfull set of Supreme Councils in Italy like the one of Grand Masters Luigi Piazza and Mauro Lazzeri in Livorno wich I was part of as stated in my reply to masonic info and many other interviews I gave in the past on Greg's show.

On the 22nd of December 2006 e.v. as documented in my site at :
http://www.illuminaticonfessions.webfriend...icles_51_60.htm
I went to visit Grand Master Mauro Lazzeri and Grand Master Luigi Piazza in their HQ's in Livorno to officialy resign from their Supreme Council and bring back ( following the ancient customs ) any documentation regarding my 33rd honorary degree given to me by Grand Master Luigi Piazza , somebody who was by the way an old friend of my grandfather Sicilian Senator and Freemason Leopoldo Zagami. Luigi Piazza was also as you know a member of the Monte Carlo P2 Lodge. I did this because I just started back then my first Blog and my accusations against this evil illuminati network ( in October 2006) , and I was now in conflict with my old Brothers of the Supreme Council so I wanted to clear my position with them in an official manner to protect me from any future involvement in their criminal P2 Network and I was very lucky indeed...
Because in the begining of June 2007 the HQ's of the Supreme Council of Grand Master Luigi Piazza of the Gran Loggia Unita Tradizionale and Mauro Lazzeri of the Grande Oriente Universale was raided by the police investigating the criminal activities of these irregular Grand lodges:
http://espresso.repubblica.it/dettaglio-lo...oggia/1635988/6
http://www.pmli.it/inchiestaloggiamassonicacoperta.htm
http://gracc.iobloggo.com/archive.php/tag/loggia

So finaly a new scandal erupted in the italian masonic scene with this new investigation and all my 33rd degree documents and my official resignation from their Supreme Coucil were present thanks God in the Solidarietà e lavoro srl HQ's and are now in the hands of the italian investigator and Magistrate Henry John Woodcock : http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cf...;contentid=4528

I'm so gratefull to God I resigned before this happened otherwise I will also be investigated by the police investigating these P2 criminals , but the Magistrate knows very well now that I distanced myself when I understood their real criminal nature well before the investigation was made public and I apparentely helped the investigators with my revelations on the web.


Magistrates Henry John Woodcock and Luigi de Magistris are doing something nobody as attempted for a long time in Italy by fighting these irregular illuminati masonic Lodges , but they are also having many difficulties in going on with their two investigations due to the corrupt nature of the italian political scene.

My 33rd degree can be also found in this important Memphis and Mizraim warrant issued by Nicholaj Frisvold that you can find at :
http://www.illuminaticonfessions.webfrie...ticles.htm

Hope all this clears my position even for the more skeptics.

Regards,
Leo Lyon Zagami
Khaled Saifullah Khan

Regarding my 33rd degree patent I cleared up my position in this post above a little quile ago , so please read it carefully and you will understand that my 33rd degree Patent was confiscated by the police in June 2007 in the HQ's of the GOU and the GLUT in Livorno known as Solidarieta e Lavoro and is now in the hands of italian Magistrate Henry John Woodcock as part of an official investigation on the illegal activities of these Masonic Obbediences . Regarding instead the change of dates I also told you already that I dont receive my post at illuminati Confessions directely but trough my collaborator Daniele Dal Bosco , who then sends it to me after a couple of weeks or more depending on how busy he is. I'm sorry this causes some delays in my eventual replies but the change of date is probably due to the fact I received myself that e-mail on the 28th of December from Daniele nothing more then that. Dont create conspiracies were they dont exist it sounds completely ridicoulose.

Regards,
Leo/Khaled

[nietzscheansuperman]

"Regarding instead the change of dates I also told you already that I dont receive my post at illuminati Confessions directely but trough my collaborator Daniele Dal Bosco , who then sends it to me after a couple of weeks or more depending on how busy he is. I'm sorry this causes some delays in my eventual replies but the change of date is probably due to the fact I received myself that e-mail on the 28th of December from Daniele nothing more then that."


Well, you seemed to recieve and respond to other peoples emails pretty quickly Leo and it says that it was sent from me not Daniele. I don't believe you but like I said I would hate to let you get away on a minor technicality so lets just ignore that for now shall we?


"Regarding my 33rd degree patent I cleared up my position in this post above a little quile ago , so please read it carefully and you will understand that my 33rd degree Patent was confiscated by the police in June 2007 in the HQ's of the GOU and the GLUT in Livorno known as Solidarieta e Lavoro and is now in the hands of italian Magistrate Henry John Woodcock as part of an official investigation on the illegal activities of these Masonic Obbediences ."

How convenient for you Leo, it seems myself and masonic info were correct after all, the question was not whether or not you would come up with the evidence but what ridiculous lie you would come up with to explain its absence. Firstly, I don't believe that the judge has your patent due to the fact that I am not an idiot but let's pretend he has, you mean to tell me that you or they didn't make a copy? Why do they still have it and why don't they have your other ones?? How long has this "investigation" been going on for and which police officers are in charge of the investigation??? This must have caused quite a stir in the media, are there any records of this??? What about the patents for all the other degrees you claim including the Illuminati ones???

[LoopRadar]

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:In his interviews he pretends that someone is tampering with the phone line and claims it is the illuminati trying to prevent him from speaking therefore I would not put it past him to tamper with the account himself and blame that on the Illuminati. So lets not let him get away on a technicality, the email thing is a little suspicious to me though but I am not an experienced with computers, perhaps someone else out there could tell me how the date said the 28th on my email when he posted it but I had already put it up on here on the 8th of December? Isn't that date supposed to represent the date that it was received?? It is on my computer!

Perhaps you can look at this? (and apparantly, so should Leo):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIME
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_tracking

?

It seems fairly obvious to me that there is a dicrepancy in the dates (of the said e-mail) and that it more likely than not is not due to non-human intervention... :geek:

Did you mean human or non human interference loopradar?

not non-human=human. Alas the :geek:
(Just trying to lighten the gloom a bit :wink: )
It is obvious that 'someone' has "handled" the e-mail. If it is Leo or someone else is impossible to tell.
But it would help if he could post the original including all the headers.

At the end of the day tough, it probably does not matter. At all...

[Leo Zagami]

Quote:"Regarding instead the change of dates I also told you already that I dont receive my post at illuminati Confessions directely but trough my collaborator Daniele Dal Bosco , who then sends it to me after a couple of weeks or more depending on how busy he is. I'm sorry this causes some delays in my eventual replies but the change of date is probably due to the fact I received myself that e-mail on the 28th of December from Daniele nothing more then that."


Well, you seemed to recieve and respond to other peoples emails pretty quickly Leo and it says that it was sent from me not Daniele. I don't believe you but like I said I would hate to let you get away on a minor technicality so lets just ignore that for now shall we?


"Regarding my 33rd degree patent I cleared up my position in this post above a little quile ago , so please read it carefully and you will understand that my 33rd degree Patent was confiscated by the police in June 2007 in the HQ's of the GOU and the GLUT in Livorno known as Solidarieta e Lavoro and is now in the hands of italian Magistrate Henry John Woodcock as part of an official investigation on the illegal activities of these Masonic Obbediences ."

How convenient for you Leo, it seems myself and masonic info were correct after all, the question was not whether or not you would come up with the evidence but what ridiculous lie you would come up with to explain its absence. Firstly, I don't believe that the judge has your patent due to the fact that I am not an idiot but let's pretend he has, you mean to tell me that you or they didn't make a copy? Why do they still have it and why don't they have your other ones?? How long has this "investigation" been going on for and which police officers are in charge of the investigation??? This must have caused quite a stir in the media, are there any records of this??? What about the patents for all the other degrees you claim including the Illuminati ones???

Sorry but you should realy ask my partner Daniele Dal Bosco at daniciao2004@yahoo.it about this strange situation with the dates , I just checked my mail and it seems I got yours even later then I thought on the 2nd of Jannuary as you can check from the following:

Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:16:37 +0100
From: illuminati@webfriend.it Add to Address Book
To: leoyoung1999@yahoo.com
Subject: Fwd: 4 Forwarded Messages

So if something spoky is going on with the dates it must be happening in my Milan HQ's not at my home in Oslo.

Regarding the investigation there is plenty of news about it and it realy caused a big stir in the italian media, this is the biggest investigation on irregular Freemasonry since the P2 scandal. That's why I gave you several links regarding this investigation in my previous statement , but you dont even seem to read them and check the evidence so Im starting to get bored with your superficial research , please dont make me waist my time having to post things again and again because you dont bother to read them and think they are all made up names and so on , please be a bit more intelligent as a researcher and you will get your info right otherwise believe in your corrupt Masons from Maine at Masonic Info:
Translate this from the espresso.republica link bellow and you might get the full picture:

" I poliziotti inviati dal pubblico ministero Henry John Woodcock hanno fatto tutto quello che dovevano. Hanno scattato foto e acquisito documentazione. Anche quella che, con ogni probabilità, metterà nelle mani del magistrato la lista dei «fratelli» che la frequentano. Non è una loggia affiliata al Grande Oriente di Palazzo Giustiniani, né a Piazza del Gesù. E’ una nuova famiglia massonica, nata a Livorno, in procinto di cercare rapporti con altre famiglie che hanno sede negli Stati Uniti d’America."

http://espresso.repubblica.it/dettaglio-lo...oggia/1635988/6
http://www.pmli.it/inchiestaloggiamassonicacoperta.htm
http://gracc.iobloggo.com/archive.php/tag/loggia
and there is even more if you start serching:
http://www.ilgiornale.it/a.pic1?ID=182966
http:/sts.peacelink.org/pipermail/rigas...une/000088.html
and this article on Conspiracy Planet :
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cf...;contentid=4528

At the moment there is a official ongoing investigation by the Procura della Republica of the city of Potenza on the illegal activities of the Gran Loggia Unita Tradizionale of Luigi Piazza and the Grande Oriente Universale of Mauro Lazzeri connected to the irregular P2 Network. The person in charge who as all the documentation is italo/english magistrate Henry John Woodcock who can be reached at :
Cancelleria Dott. Woodcock
+39 0971491757

Regarding my illuminati patents you can find them at : http://www.illuminaticonfessions.webfrie...ticles.htm
and my Monte Carlo Lodge masonic passport at : http://www.illuminaticonfessions.webfriend...ticles_6_15.htm

[nietzscheansuperman]

"Regarding the investigation there is plenty of news about it and it realy caused a big stir in the italian media,"

Does the news mention your name?

"please dont make me waist my time having to post things again and again because you dont bother to read them and think they are all made up names and so on"

I have a severe allergy to bullshit so I cant read much of what you post, luckily I don't have to in order to prove that it is crap! I don't doubt that some of the names you quote are real people, I just KNOW that you are lying about your connection to them.

"The Magistrate in charge who as all the documentation is Henry John Woodcock who can be reached at :
Cancelleria Dott. Woodcock
+39 0971491757"

Great, what is the number for your so called "friend and true Brother John Gordon Graves, Grand-Master Mason of the Grand Lodge of All England"?

[Leo Zagami]

Quote:"Regarding the investigation there is plenty of news about it and it realy caused a big stir in the italian media,"

Does the news mention your name?

"please dont make me waist my time having to post things again and again because you dont bother to read them and think they are all made up names and so on"

I have a severe allergy to bullshit so I cant read much of what you post, luckily I don't have to in order to prove that it is crap! I don't doubt that some of the names you quote are real people, I just KNOW that you are lying about your connection to them.

"The Magistrate in charge who as all the documentation is Henry John Woodcock who can be reached at :
Cancelleria Dott. Woodcock
+39 0971491757"

Great, what is the number for your so called "friend and true Brother John Gordon Graves, Grand-Master Mason of the Grand Lodge of All England"?

As I told you before I resigned in December 2006 from the Supreme Council in Livorno so Im not involved in the investigation thanks God , but I have a photo with me and Grand Master Mauro Lazzeri togheter in our Livorno HQ's in December 2006 and a historical photo of Grand Master Luigi Piazza and Francesco Murgia ( of the Grande Oriente d'Italia ) at the secret Universal Unity P2 meeting in the convent of San Cerbone ( near Lucca) in June 2006 , that proves my link with them was more then genuine, so please check this page for the photos :

http://beppegrillo.meetup.com/258/boards/v...pager.offset=60

in the meantime I have left you the phone number of my true friend and Brother the Grand Master Mason John Gordon Graves of the Grand Lodge of All England
so I'm now leaving for everybody else interested in contacting the Grand Lodge of All England the e-mail of their Grand Secretary: grandsecretary@btinternet.com

John initiated me a couple of years ago to the highest degree of the Emulation system, the degree of Installed Master. He can tell you a bit more about my masonic credentials but please use your manners with him because he is a true British gentlemen .


Regards,

Leo Lyon zagami
now
Khaled Saifullah Khan

[Rosebery]

Quote:in the meantime I leave you the phone number of my true friend and Brother the Grand Master Mason John Gordon Graves of the Grand Lodge of All England
+44 1258 820233
John initiated me a couple of years ago to the highest degree of the Emulation system, the degree of Installed Master. He can tell you a bit more about my masonic credentials but please use your manners with him because he is a true British gentlemen .

Hmm - posting peoples private telephone numbers on the forum is just a little bit naughty Leo. See how you like it: 21 91 61 76. I'll get a wrap over the knuckles for that (well that's what happened last time you did it and I joined in) but never mind.

Anyway want to tell REALLY what happened with RGLE / UGLAE? Otherwise it looks like a bit of a smokescreen.

Cheers

[Rosebery]

Quote:........................... to the highest degree of the Emulation system, the degree of Installed Master..........................

and you know how incorrect a statement that is Leo. Telling untruths like that just taints everything you write.

Cheers