Illegal Mexican invasion has to stop

[mexika]

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Quote: As the saying goes..


Its not [that]the Mexican who has been demonized as a cockroach by racist animals, it is the racist european [is]as the cockroach who has no boundaries of respect towards other people of different origin...

Well, some will say....it is because they are super superior....No, that has nothing to do with it....it has to do with european lies, deceit, treachery, no shame, moral character, and respect for that which is different. People color display those qualities of character, but many europeans do not understand honor, respect, and peace.....

as the saying goes....a violent entity without respect will only die by its own sword.. it is up to the european humanistic characteristic to change or they will simply dig their own grave...

I love all races...but I show no sympathy for wickedness, oppression, or treachery!!

Original LandLord.

Do you show sympathy for your own stupidity. Do you support the chiapas/sorbonne drug routes? Zapatista = cunning coke lines? oh no, poor marcos is not god. Using the word "many" doesn't disguise you. "first" or "only"? "many" or "all" makes no difference y'racist. "many" racists try and appear magnaminous in the public realm.
well, you guys enjoy your cokslapping now. I'll give it a miss as the saying goes.



I never liked landlords no matter how original they claim to be..even if it's thousand of years. Proudhon weeps for his dead words that never made it to you yet.
the global south is one thing but white as cockroach. I wonder which parties/clubs you might be joining in the next years the considering the particular "humanistic characteristic" you display.

first of all many people dont need clubs as skull and bone pirates to be self educated. you abviously dont have a clue of whats happening down in chiapas....too bad...CNN has you by the throat. Many so called U.S american patriots are nothing but brainwashed cattle.


people dont like landlord when its not convenient...but if it was...as it is with many brainwashed cattle, you would be the first to pick up a weapon and die like a rodent without any brain. Similar to 911 and IRAQ....defending a country when that nation is not american nation, but occupied land as is the Gasa Strip, palestine, and Africa.

[mexika]

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Quote:

Quote: As the saying goes..


Its not [that]the Mexican who has been demonized as a cockroach by racist animals, it is the racist european [is]as the cockroach who has no boundaries of respect towards other people of different origin...

Well, some will say....it is because they are super superior....No, that has nothing to do with it....it has to do with european lies, deceit, treachery, no shame, moral character, and respect for that which is different. People color display those qualities of character, but many europeans do not understand honor, respect, and peace.....

as the saying goes....a violent entity without respect will only die by its own sword.. it is up to the european humanistic characteristic to change or they will simply dig their own grave...

I love all races...but I show no sympathy for wickedness, oppression, or treachery!!

Original LandLord.

Do you show sympathy for your own stupidity. Do you support the chiapas/sorbonne drug routes? Zapatista = cunning coke lines? oh no, poor marcos is not god. Using the word "many" doesn't disguise you. "first" or "only"? "many" or "all" makes no difference y'racist. "many" racists try and appear magnaminous in the public realm.
well, you guys enjoy your cokslapping now. I'll give it a miss as the saying goes.



I never liked landlords no matter how original they claim to be..even if it's thousand of years. Proudhon weeps for his dead words that never made it to you yet.
the global south is one thing but white as cockroach. I wonder which parties/clubs you might be joining in the next years the considering the particular "humanistic characteristic" you display.

first of all many people dont need clubs as skull and bone pirates to be self educated. you abviously dont have a clue of whats happening down in chiapas....too bad...CNN has you by the throat. Many so called U.S american patriots are nothing but brainwashed cattle.


people dont like landlord when its not convenient...but if it was...as it is with many brainwashed cattle, you would be the first to pick up a weapon and die like a rodent without any brain. Similar to 911 and IRAQ....defending a country when that nation is not american nation, but occupied land as is the Gasa Strip, palestine, and Africa.

clearly....when it comes for the United Snakes of Amerikkka and its policy towards its next store neighbor it is racist with extreme poverty. When it comes to Israel...it is heaven with billions of dollars in extreme helping hand....see the hypocrisy and its alligence to white zionist jews....skin color is everything to white racist.. Many so called white americans live very close to mexico, but when it comes to understanding the nieghbor and its way of being, it is totally ignored. At the same time, europe which is far away is embraced and glorified, yet they ask many indigenous to forget their past while they 'europeans' embrace their past. the hypocrisy is great...nothing short of a capitalist mind set, racist attitude.

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Quote:first of all many people dont need clubs as skull and bone pirates to be self educated. you abviously dont have a clue of whats happening down in chiapas....too bad...CNN has you by the throat. Many so called U.S american patriots are nothing but brainwashed cattle.

"brainwashed cattle" - like "goyim" perhaps. you're worse than Kon3v and that's daying something mate.
CNN does not "have me by the throat". I'm not even american you dope.

I don't know anything about Chiapas. oh right. okay. I won't mention Ocasingo then. Why don't you have a look at the "Sorbonne school" you might find some interesting links to the EZLN.

Quote:people dont like landlord when its not convenient...but if it was...as it is with many brainwashed cattle, you would be the first to pick up a weapon and die like a rodent without any brain. Similar to 911 and IRAQ....defending a country when that nation is not american nation, but occupied land as is the Gasa Strip, palestine, and Africa.

you're just ranting and not making any sense...

[Guest]

Quote:Of course if that works then eugenics is not necessary. Genetic superiority theory could be another subject, in the future.

you can discuss it all you want it's still essentially bullshit. Perhaps you refer to the average IQ rating of ashkenazi jews being around 110 due to centuries of selective breeding? Or the bone fixers of Guatemala?

You severly limit your options as a human being in this shared experience if you believe in your racial genetics being in some way "superior" to anyone who isn't a white caucasian. There are many implicit differences in genetic make ups which correlate to habitat adaptation and illustrate the success of diversification in nature. But nothing is this designates a superiority. It's shite which ever camp spews it.

genetic marvels are seemingly random. Thanks Chris Carota

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/stats.ht...b618375ed194c47

Quote:Cannibalism does continue in Africa, even today. But this was a side note.

"racial bias than presenting any intellectualised cultural position"
No... Or maybe a bit. Do you think that all races are all the same, as good as everything, just different skin color, or do they have significant racial differences? This will be another topic later, but I'd like to know what you think.

Cannabilism exists in Europe too. In fact before reeling out the taboos maybe look where cannabilistic practices have been practiced in the world. It seems like a really unoriginal comment that some people rely on to try and denigrate an entire continent of people by. A fijian priest fork in the eye of your argument.

I think the "significance" of any racial differences are vastly outweighed by the similarities between all people.
The contention that races are generally "better" or "worse" than each other is crap. The same sort of rhetoric was used soon after the advent of mass agricultural practices in western europe to dehumanise Africans as no more than "cattle" which no doubt helped the uneducated white european conscripts kill and enslave without much reflection apon the atrocity, at the behest of their white european masters.

Quote:Well obviously I meant real help, not this fake help.

Yes, I do think that European intervention in Africa and especially European medicine has been the core reason for the population growth. What is your explanation?

I dont necess. downplay the effects of european medicine in population growth but now you want another forced "european" intervention to "stabilise" population.
"Real help" to my mind would have to start with the abolition of all "arrested development" projects and agendas. Otherwise, it's like pissing on someone and tell them not to get too wet and you'll pass an umbrella over in a minute.
Grabbing all the commodities. Pumping in firearms and formenting constant political instability. The requirements of restructural loans on common land and social provision. "real help" begins when we taje our own leaders agendas' to task. But of course we love our chocolate and wifi

Quote:How is that laughable that we did defend Europe against Arabs, Mongols and Turks, for hundreds of years. How is it laughable that we have struggled for thousands of years, against ourselves and others? I emphasize that we have struggled for thousands of years to maintain our civilization. I dont see anything laughable in that fact. Numerous civilizations around the world have perished for good, we havent. What is laughable or paranoid about that? And the point I was making with this, was not to somehow motivate us to "fight the NWO" or something like that, but to simply demonstrate that we Europeans have a right to our homelands, just like all the other races have a right to their lands.

So when 'we' get out of those lands 'we' have a 'leg to stand on' with 'our' argument. You give the impression of the 'noble white races' maintaining the integrity of a pristine culture under constant peril from barbaric hordes at the gate. Whites have been just as incredibly expansionist as any other race, if not more. The islamic expansion was far greater, all in all, than that of the anglo-christians,norse or vikings but go tell that to the maya or the aboriginies.White people trampelled over innumerable peoples. Migration is fluxus and the fear genetic dilution you are worrying about, well, let's hope no one in your family has to guess who's coming for dinner as the guest might worry about the safety of the food by all accounts.

The American case is not altogether unique but where we can perceive an orchestrated scheme to create an overburgeoning migrant population, well, I can see that for it's political poison. Sure, I agree America must be able to regulate how much of an influx of migrant workers and illegal non-nationals flow in across her southern border at this point in history.

But as a general, the idea that whites are having to defend their homelands is a nonsense when european interests are as aggressive as ever overseas.

Quote:We seem to agree that racism to some degree is natural.

"However, be that as it may, we do live in societies were multiculturalism has ALREADY occurred."
Yes, and it's costly, arouses racial tensions and problems of racism (which would not exist in homogenous nations), and numerous other problems. And the most significant problems start to occur, especially in the US, when it will be minority white.

I just advocate that Europeans, especially in the US would not bring anymore other races into their countries. No-one - except the illegal Mexican invaders - should be deported.

In the US they do prefer the company of their own race in scool cafeterias for example, this is common knowledge.

In Finland we have 5,2 million people, about 2,3% foreigners. Maybe 1% or less (0,5-1%) are non-whites. I'm not worried about Finland, our immigration policy is just fine (for us). I, just like the majority of our people, would like to see it strictly maintained this way.

It's the USA, that in 2050 will be majority non-white, that is an alarming example of multiculturalism. I later, in another topic, bring up the interracial crime and other statistics.

oh god. please. the crime statistics script. I guess that was the obvious next step after the accusations of cannabilism.:rolleyes: It can be only hoped you run a commentary on social exclusion to balance the picture.

Would you be against one of 0.5-1% non white finlanders holding a position in the finnish judiciary?
I think the rate of immigration into America across the mexican border should be regulated and significantly reduced primarily for economic considerations. Perhaps a more egalitarian balance of wealth in the world might encourage people to not wish to abandon their homelands and family in search of "the american dream"

[mexika]

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first of all many people dont need clubs as skull and bone pirates to be self educated. you abviously dont have a clue of whats happening down in chiapas....too bad...CNN has you by the throat. Many so called U.S american patriots are nothing but brainwashed cattle.

"brainwashed cattle" - like "goyim" perhaps. you're worse than Kon3v and that's daying something mate.
CNN does not "have me by the throat". I'm not even american you dope.

I don't know anything about Chiapas. oh right. okay. I won't mention Ocasingo then. Why don't you have a look at the "Sorbonne school" you might find some interesting links to the EZLN.

Quote:people dont like landlord when its not convenient...but if it was...as it is with many brainwashed cattle, you would be the first to pick up a weapon and die like a rodent without any brain. Similar to 911 and IRAQ....defending a country when that nation is not american nation, but occupied land as is the Gasa Strip, palestine, and Africa.

you're just ranting and not making any sense...

Whatever....that attitude of a capatalist!!!

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Whatever....that attitude of a capatalist!!!

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believe me. it was painful to realise the drug connection with the hierarchy of the EZLN. capitalist? why's that, mexica? what impels you to decide that?


] have a look. if you find that the zapatista dont secure routes then i'll take a big swig of coca cola and make a big burp in your honour as is want in parts of the region, get the bad spirits in the soul out

[mexika]

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[quote name='mexika' post='124397' date='Jan 19 2008, 11:49 AM']



Whatever....that attitude of a capatalist!!!

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believe me. it was painful to realise the drug connection with the hierarchy of the EZLN. capitalist? why's that, mexica? what impels you to decide that?


] have a look. if you find that the zapatista dont secure routes then i'll take a big swig of coca cola and make a big burp in your honour as is want in parts of the region, get the bad spirits in the soul out
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EZLN IS NOT involved with drugs. This is but a european white lie. BUt I do know who is involved with drug trade....basically The CIA, The United States government, and also the Mexican Government who could care less about the condition of the Mexican. You might refering to LA ZETA, which is a corrupt government entity as to what the CIA to the United States. LA Zeta is like another government in Mexico...

I THINK YOU ARE GETTIN YOUR INFORMATION TWISTED AS MANY EUROPEANS HAVE TWISTED AND DISTORTED SO MANY THINGS. YOU SHOULD REALLY FIND OUT WHAT EZLN IS ALL ABOUT...ANY ADMIN ON THIS BOARD, WELL MAYBE ANY PERSON WITH A SENSE OF JUSTICE WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT IS THE EZLN ALL ABOUT. EZLN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DRUGS, BUT I'M SURE YOU CAN MAKE A TRUE CONNECTION TO THE CIA AND ITS PALE FACES IN THE HOUSE OF WHITES. WHAT YOU SAY IS NOTHING BUT A DEMONIC PLOY OF SHAMEFUL GAMES.

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[quote name='mexika' date='Jan 20 2008, 09:12 PM' post='124591'] [quote name='nik mark 2' date='Jan 20 2008, 04:56 AM' post='124448']
[quote name='mexika' post='124397' date='Jan 19 2008, 11:49 AM']



Whatever....that attitude of a capatalist!!!

[/quote}


believe me. it was painful to realise the drug connection with the hierarchy of the EZLN. capitalist? why's that, mexica? what impels you to decide that?


] have a look. if you find that the zapatista dont secure routes then i'll take a big swig of coca cola and make a big burp in your honour as is want in parts of the region, get the bad spirits in the soul out
[/quote]


EZLN IS NOT involved with drugs. This is but a european white lie. BUt I do know who is involved with drug trade....basically The CIA, The United States government, and also the Mexican Government who could care less about the condition of the Mexican. You might refering to LA ZETA, which is a corrupt government entity as to what the CIA to the United States. LA Zeta is like another government in Mexico...

I THINK YOU ARE GETTIN YOUR INFORMATION TWISTED AS MANY EUROPEANS HAVE TWISTED AND DISTORTED SO MANY THINGS. YOU SHOULD REALLY FIND OUT WHAT EZLN IS ALL ABOUT...ANY ADMIN ON THIS BOARD, WELL MAYBE ANY PERSON WITH A SENSE OF JUSTICE WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT IS THE EZLN ALL ABOUT. EZLN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DRUGS, BUT I'M SURE YOU CAN MAKE A TRUE CONNECTION TO THE CIA AND ITS PALE FACES IN THE HOUSE OF WHITES. WHAT YOU SAY IS NOTHING BUT A DEMONIC PLOY OF SHAMEFUL GAMES. [/quote]

[Guest]

NO NEED TO SHOUT ABOUT IT mexica.

De nuestros rostros negros.
De nuestras voz armadas.
De nuestros innombrables nombres.
De los nosotros que usteded veen ... estamos ustedes.
Estamos los mismo hombres y mujeres smplis y ordinario:
Que se resisten en todas las razas.
Que se pintan de todos las colores
Que se hablan en todas las lenguas
Y que se viven en todas los lugares


Detras de nosotros estamos ustedes.
Companeros y companeras de todo el mundo.
Bienvenidos a las montanas del sureste mexicano.
Bienvenidos a este rincon del mundo,
donde todas somos iguales, por que somos differentes,
Bienvenidos a la busqueda de la vida.
Y la lucha contra la muerte.


That's what I have written on the back of a shirt I picked up in Chiapas when I was a "leftie." I stayed with some local friends' of the zapatista there and look foward to my next trip out when my kid is older and I have the $.

It was not with pleasure I started to see what was going on, later on. You should check it out for yourself rather than just having blind faith in the Zapatista. How does that coke travel through the jungle from Guatemala into Mexico? That's Zapatista land. You'd think they'd know about it...

I am not saying that every member of the EZLN is corrupt but potentially some of the hierarchy are very much so.
CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF and dont bother tthis time about the ranting racist antiwhite backlash screaming "you're wrong you white devil!" because it's boring ..unless you can't help yourself that is.

[mexika]

Quote:NO NEED TO SHOUT ABOUT IT mexica.

De nuestros rostros negros.
De nuestras voz armadas.
De nuestros innombrables nombres.
De los nosotros que usteded veen ... estamos ustedes.
Estamos los mismo hombres y mujeres smplis y ordinario:
Que se resisten en todas las razas.
Que se pintan de todos las colores
Que se hablan en todas las lenguas
Y que se viven en todas los lugares


Detras de nosotros estamos ustedes.
Companeros y companeras de todo el mundo.
Bienvenidos a las montanas del sureste mexicano.
Bienvenidos a este rincon del mundo,
donde todas somos iguales, por que somos differentes,
Bienvenidos a la busqueda de la vida.
Y la lucha contra la muerte.


That's what I have written on the back of a shirt I picked up in Chiapas when I was a "leftie." I stayed with some local friends' of the zapatista there and look foward to my next trip out when my kid is older and I have the $.

It was not with pleasure I started to see what was going on, later on. You should check it out for yourself rather than just having blind faith in the Zapatista. How does that coke travel through the jungle from Guatemala into Mexico? That's Zapatista land. You'd think they'd know about it...

I am not saying that every member of the EZLN is corrupt but potentially some of the hierarchy are very much so.
CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF and dont bother tthis time about the ranting racist antiwhite backlash screaming "you're wrong you white devil!" because it's boring ..unless you can't help yourself that is.

well...if you are so much informed...did you get some coke from the family you stayed with. Practically when white trash tavels to mexico is because they are eluding the authorities from the United States as criminals. We can probably deduce that most people when they go into sacred lands of the south is because the devil is looking for something to get high on, or bring drugs into the united states, looking to make a quick profit with a distorted mind set. You don't understand and could care less about what is to be an indigenous person or people of the south. What most europeans care for is how to make a very quick buck based on deceit, lies, and distortion. The hypocrisy is great....The truth of the matter is that you are living proof how how deceitful your ancestors were and you carry that same genetic material of a liar, shameless smiles that has infected the earth with poison of divide and conquer. Have you figured that if its happening, that its not EZLN but the government and the CIA who have infested the world with poison based on greed. You see, European greed has not stopped from 1492, it is till boiling, its a different mind set, a mind set that you yourself can not even see because your linear mind is just too busy trying to get ahead of itself. Shame is no where to be found from your ancestors. Not trying to make any one guilty, but to acknowledge the crimes of your past ancestors and the crimes that continue till this time. But not even that, because your own system preys on your mind, and you seem to quite faithfully like it.

another one, you are not a leftie, you are a wannabe infiltrator, a deceiver as your ancestors so much glorified their evil ways!

[mexika]

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Quote:NO NEED TO SHOUT ABOUT IT mexica.

De nuestros rostros negros.
De nuestras voz armadas.
De nuestros innombrables nombres.
De los nosotros que usteded veen ... estamos ustedes.
Estamos los mismo hombres y mujeres smplis y ordinario:
Que se resisten en todas las razas.
Que se pintan de todos las colores
Que se hablan en todas las lenguas
Y que se viven en todas los lugares


Detras de nosotros estamos ustedes.
Companeros y companeras de todo el mundo.
Bienvenidos a las montanas del sureste mexicano.
Bienvenidos a este rincon del mundo,
donde todas somos iguales, por que somos differentes,
Bienvenidos a la busqueda de la vida.
Y la lucha contra la muerte.


That's what I have written on the back of a shirt I picked up in Chiapas when I was a "leftie." I stayed with some local friends' of the zapatista there and look foward to my next trip out when my kid is older and I have the $.

It was not with pleasure I started to see what was going on, later on. You should check it out for yourself rather than just having blind faith in the Zapatista. How does that coke travel through the jungle from Guatemala into Mexico? That's Zapatista land. You'd think they'd know about it...

I am not saying that every member of the EZLN is corrupt but potentially some of the hierarchy are very much so.
CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF and dont bother tthis time about the ranting racist antiwhite backlash screaming "you're wrong you white devil!" because it's boring ..unless you can't help yourself that is.

well...if you are so much informed...did you get some coke from the family you stayed with. Practically when white trash tavels to mexico is because they are eluding the authorities from the United States as criminals. We can probably deduce that most people when they go into sacred lands of the south is because the devil is looking for something to get high on, or bring drugs into the united states, looking to make a quick profit with a distorted mind set. You don't understand and could care less about what is to be an indigenous person or people of the south. What most europeans care for is how to make a very quick buck based on deceit, lies, and distortion. The hypocrisy is great....The truth of the matter is that you are living proof how how deceitful your ancestors were and you carry that same genetic material of a liar, shameless smiles that has infected the earth with poison of divide and conquer. Have you figured that if its happening, that its not EZLN but the government and the CIA who have infested the world with poison based on greed. You see, European greed has not stopped from 1492, it is till boiling, its a different mind set, a mind set that you yourself can not even see because your linear mind is just too busy trying to get ahead of itself. Shame is no where to be found from your ancestors. Not trying to make any one guilty, but to acknowledge the crimes of your past ancestors and the crimes that continue till this time. But not even that, because your own system preys on your mind, and you seem to quite faithfully like it.

another one, you are not a leftie, you are a wannabe infiltrator, a deceiver as your ancestors so much glorified their evil ways!

LOL you fucking racist dick!

If I get some penalty for that statement so be it, after all it is YOU calling me EVIL because I am WHITE.

ha ha you dont know shit about me hombre.

Here where I live amongst the German's, some people accept the "friendly revolution" was a CIA sponsored event. JUst as the "orange" revolution in Ukraine had geniune grass roots student groups looking to establish democracy with direct funding from US based neoCON THINKTANKS.

Can't face that the EZLN aren't as PURE AS the DRIVEN SNOW. ROFL. No they just peddle it for territorial security. As the 'stranglers' said " no more heroes anymore"

Of only you didnt hate so much, you could find consolation with the RP fans who also find it hard to believe the saviour isn't there in the gate.

As for if I was a coke tourist. I'd say some nasty shit to raise your blood pressure but fuck it.



Anyway, no desire here to try and clue you up to Sub commandante Marcos's somewhat hidden background as a student in EUROPE of the SORBONNE SCHOOL.

whatever mexicana. Enjoy the bigotry. I wont be playing with you on this thread much longer.

wannabe infiltrator with cursed genes? I guess you can only get away saying shit like that so blase' because I'm caucasian.

Go and fight for your CIA funded EZLN then. I dont give a fuck. half brains are two a penny.

Probably I dont know anything about individual souls, true that. but I do know about queens, kings, dictators, and columbus as a genocidal maniac, of germany hitler, of hypocrisy of the so called self labeled caucasian as some type of purity factor of justification for being righteous and all accepting, of the white jesus christ and all angels when we fully understand that jesus christ is was never white and now god from that linear mentality would be white. If I'm racist because I spill the facts of Caucasian or self labeled hypocrisy taboo or that which you turn the other cheek to talk about because it benefits the twisted or simply want to remain blind to your ways of self describe human kind.. Well.....I guess I'm only racist to that entity...but to humanity I'm just one of those that shines light to the demon...maybe in time you will see the light and stop spreading lies.

What if Marcos studied in Europe? I'm fully aware he studied in europe, does that mean I'm going to describe him as no good...He studied in europe and than he saw the light and become enlightened and wanted to make a difference in chiapas because he could read between the lines. Many people have tried to descredit Marcos...you are not the only one. Governments, dictators as bush, the twisted king of spain, the bought out, the dis-informationationist.....

THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN TEACH BRO!!!!

and you say you are going to go back once you have the $; why are you going back? is it to help the people or to exploit them, is it to better understand the people or to raise negative rumors, are you some type of government agent? LIKE THE CIA OR the KGB? what exactly were you doing in chiapas? So far you have mentioned everything negative stuff about marcos and the EZLN...but what good have you done in chiapas..


YOU ARE A VERY CONFUSING FEELOW!!!

[mexika]

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Quote:NO NEED TO SHOUT ABOUT IT mexica.

De nuestros rostros negros.
De nuestras voz armadas.
De nuestros innombrables nombres.
De los nosotros que usteded veen ... estamos ustedes.
Estamos los mismo hombres y mujeres smplis y ordinario:
Que se resisten en todas las razas.
Que se pintan de todos las colores
Que se hablan en todas las lenguas
Y que se viven en todas los lugares


Detras de nosotros estamos ustedes.
Companeros y companeras de todo el mundo.
Bienvenidos a las montanas del sureste mexicano.
Bienvenidos a este rincon del mundo,
donde todas somos iguales, por que somos differentes,
Bienvenidos a la busqueda de la vida.
Y la lucha contra la muerte.


That's what I have written on the back of a shirt I picked up in Chiapas when I was a "leftie." I stayed with some local friends' of the zapatista there and look foward to my next trip out when my kid is older and I have the $.

It was not with pleasure I started to see what was going on, later on. You should check it out for yourself rather than just having blind faith in the Zapatista. How does that coke travel through the jungle from Guatemala into Mexico? That's Zapatista land. You'd think they'd know about it...

I am not saying that every member of the EZLN is corrupt but potentially some of the hierarchy are very much so.
CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF and dont bother tthis time about the ranting racist antiwhite backlash screaming "you're wrong you white devil!" because it's boring ..unless you can't help yourself that is.

well...if you are so much informed...did you get some coke from the family you stayed with. Practically when white trash tavels to mexico is because they are eluding the authorities from the United States as criminals. We can probably deduce that most people when they go into sacred lands of the south is because the devil is looking for something to get high on, or bring drugs into the united states, looking to make a quick profit with a distorted mind set. You don't understand and could care less about what is to be an indigenous person or people of the south. What most europeans care for is how to make a very quick buck based on deceit, lies, and distortion. The hypocrisy is great....The truth of the matter is that you are living proof how how deceitful your ancestors were and you carry that same genetic material of a liar, shameless smiles that has infected the earth with poison of divide and conquer. Have you figured that if its happening, that its not EZLN but the government and the CIA who have infested the world with poison based on greed. You see, European greed has not stopped from 1492, it is till boiling, its a different mind set, a mind set that you yourself can not even see because your linear mind is just too busy trying to get ahead of itself. Shame is no where to be found from your ancestors. Not trying to make any one guilty, but to acknowledge the crimes of your past ancestors and the crimes that continue till this time. But not even that, because your own system preys on your mind, and you seem to quite faithfully like it.

another one, you are not a leftie, you are a wannabe infiltrator, a deceiver as your ancestors so much glorified their evil ways!

LOL you fucking racist dick!

If I get some penalty for that statement so be it, after all it is YOU calling me EVIL because I am WHITE.

ha ha you dont know shit about me hombre.

Here where I live amongst the German's, some people accept the "friendly revolution" was a CIA sponsored event. JUst as the "orange" revolution in Ukraine had geniune grass roots student groups looking to establish democracy with direct funding from US based neoCON THINKTANKS.

Can't face that the EZLN aren't as PURE AS the DRIVEN SNOW. ROFL. No they just peddle it for territorial security. As the 'stranglers' said " no more heroes anymore"

Of only you didnt hate so much, you could find consolation with the RP fans who also find it hard to believe the saviour isn't there in the gate.

As for if I was a coke tourist. I'd say some nasty shit to raise your blood pressure but fuck it.



Anyway, no desire here to try and clue you up to Sub commandante Marcos's somewhat hidden background as a student in EUROPE of the SORBONNE SCHOOL.

whatever mexicana. Enjoy the bigotry. I wont be playing with you on this thread much longer.

wannabe infiltrator with cursed genes? I guess you can only get away saying shit like that so blase' because I'm caucasian.

Go and fight for your CIA funded EZLN then. I dont give a fuck. half brains are two a penny.

Probably I dont know anything about individual souls, true that. but I do know about queens, kings, dictators, and columbus as a genocidal maniac, of germany hitler, of hypocrisy of the so called self labeled caucasian as some type of purity factor of justification for being righteous and all accepting, of the white jesus christ and all angels when we fully understand that jesus christ is was never white and now god from that linear mentality would be white. If I'm racist because I spill the facts of Caucasian or self labeled hypocrisy taboo or that which you turn the other cheek to talk about because it benefits the twisted or simply want to remain blind to your ways of self describe human kind.. Well.....I guess I'm only racist to that entity...but to humanity I'm just one of those that shines light to the demon...maybe in time you will see the light and stop spreading lies.

What if Marcos studied in Europe? I'm fully aware he studied in europe, does that mean I'm going to describe him as no good...He studied in europe and than he saw the light and become enlightened and wanted to make a difference in chiapas because he could read between the lines. Many people have tried to descredit Marcos...you are not the only one. Governments, dictators as bush, the twisted king of spain, the bought out, the dis-informationationist.....

THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN TEACH BRO!!!!

and you say you are going to go back once you have the $; why are you going back? is it to help the people or to exploit them, is it to better understand the people or to raise negative rumors, are you some type of government agent? LIKE THE CIA OR the KGB? what exactly were you doing in chiapas? So far you have mentioned everything negative stuff about marcos and the EZLN...but what good have you done in chiapas..


YOU ARE A VERY CONFUSING FEELOW!!!

Rafael Sebastián Guillén Vicente (b. July 10, 1957, Tampico, Tamaulipas)

[font=ArialHelveticaGenevaSwissSunSans-Regular]Brig. Gen. Manuel Fernando Badillo Trueba, operations deputy for the Army Chief of Staff, declared that "there are indications that the cartels count on the support of the EZLN in Chiapas, since the drug lords operate in the armed group's area of influence." The drugs are thrown from small airplanes in flight over areas of Chiapas such as: La Unión, Laguna de Santa Clara, Laguna de Baquelte, Nuevo Guerrero, San Miguel, Pico de Oro, Benemérito de las Américas. The areas of greatest concentration of cocaine "air launches" are along the coasts of Quintana Roo, Mexico, and Belize, a member of the British Commonwealth.

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The friendship between the EZLN, ETA and the Shining Path is known:

that the Shining Path openly admits much it's funding comes from the Narco-trade is not hidden knowledge..

<!--fontc-->[/font]<!--/fontc-->[font=ArialHelveticaGenevaSwissSunSans-Regular]Shining Path's areas of operation overlap those of drug trafficking and its smuggling corridors. In 1991, the Peruvian police released a set of seized Shining Path documents, in which SL detailed its regulations for relations with the coca growers, the drug traffickers, and their intermediaries in the Upper Huallaga Valley. Agreements included setting of prices, weights, storage, and the percentage of the profits that would go to Shining Path for each drug flight. Later, it was learned that Shining Path also undertook the preparation of cocaine paste and its storage in certain towns. Shining Path thus claimed to be defending the coca-growers in their dealings with the traffickers.<!--fontc-->[/font]<!--/fontc-->
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<!--fontc-->[/font]<!--/fontc-->[font=ArialHelveticaGenevaSwissSunSans-Regular]A team of British-trained psychiatrists has worked with the anthropological network, in creating the ideological underpinnings of Shining Path's terror. Head of the psychiatric division of this project is Max Hernández, graduate of the School for Community Mental Health of London's Tavistock Clinic (founded by British intelligence's psychological warfare division), former vice-president of the International Psychoanalytic Association, a British Council Scholar, and professor for decades at the University of San Marcos, a center of Shining Path recruitment. (A number of students and professors from San Marcos' Psychology Department have been arrested as Shining Path militants.) During the 1970s, Hernández founded the Interdisciplinary Seminar of Andean Studies (SIDEA), which produced studies of Indian myths and rebellions, modern-day drug use in Indian rituals, and psychoanalytical, race-based profiles of differing Peruvian populations, all of which argued that Peru had no national identity, but should be "deconstructed" into its racial components. Degregori, other leading IEP members, and Moises Lemlij, another Peruvian psychiatrist trained at Tavistock, are also members of SIDEA.

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other known bodies and funders sympathetic to EZLN:

Misereor - German Catholic Organisation

WWF - World Wild LIfe Fund * cough* European Monarchy *cough*

Sao Paulo Forum

Revolutionary International Movement ( RIM )
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We can see that Marcos , who, as you know is whitebread, is Jesuit Trained too:

http://7cero.blogspot.com/2007/10/rafael-s...ln-vicente.html

<!--fontc-->[/font]<!--/fontc-->According to the Goverment, Rafael G. attended high school at Instituto Cultural Tampico, a Jesuit school in Tampico, Tamaulipas, where he presumably became acquainted with Liberation Theology. Guillén later moved to Mexico City where he graduated from the Metropolitan Autonomous University (UAM), then received a masters' degree in philosophy at the National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM) and began work as a professor at the UNAM, after which he left.

"About 5,000 people, many of them tourists and expatriate Zapatista backers, listened to hours of folk music before Marcos spoke. This time he used the story of his crippled Penguin as parable for the disenfranchised with whom he hopes to build a coalition: indigenous people, women, unionists, the young and jobless, homosexuals, factory workers and small farmers. His goal, he says, is "to transform society," not "from above, but from here below...Pedro Cruz, a 49-year-old construction worker, is typical of the Mexican voters he has been attracting to his speeches here. Like many working class people, Mr. Cruz is disenchanted with politics and contends that even the leftist Party of the Democratic Revolution will be corrupted by big business interests if its candidate, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, is elected. He says he does not intend to vote.

"Marcos is going to have a big influence, I think," he said. "The fact is, it gives us some hope there might be some help for the poor."

as below as above? Lol



http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/06/internat...nted=2&_r=1

"While Marcos has always denied being Rafael Guillén, Guillén's family are unaware of what happened to him and they refuse to say if they think Marcos and Guillén are the same person or not. Guillén's family is deeply involved in Tamaulipas politics. Guillén's sister, Mercedes del Carmen Guillén Vicente, is the Attorney General of the State of Tamaulipas, and a very influential member of the Institutional Revolutionary Party, the party that governed Mexico for more than 70 years."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subcommandante_Marcos

The Institutional Revolutionary Party (Spanish: Partido Revolucionario Institucional or PRI) is a Mexican political party that wielded power in the country—under a succession of names—for more than 70 years. The PRI is a member of the Socialist International, as is the rival Party of the Democratic Revolution (PRD), making Mexico one of the few nations with two major, competing parties part of the same international grouping. However PRI is far from a socialist party and more often acts as a centre or rightist party,
"Two other PRI presidents Miguel de la Madrid and Carlos Salinas de Gortari privatized many outmoded industries, including banks and roads, and also negotiated the North American Free Trade Agreement."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional..._Party#See_also



The Mexican government alleges Marcos to be Rafael Sebastián Guillén Vicente, of Tampico, Tamaulipas. Born in Mexico to Spanish immigrants, Guillén attended high school at Instituto Cultural Tampico, a Jesuit school in Tampico, where he presumably became acquainted with Liberation Theology.


"Liberation theology is a school of theology within the Catholic Church that focuses on Jesus Christ as not only the Redeemer but also the Liberator of the oppressed. It emphasizes the Christian mission to bring justice to the poor and oppressed, particularly through political activism. Some elements of certain liberation theologies have been rejected by the Catholic Church.

At its inception, liberation theology was predominantly found in the Catholic Church after the Second Vatican Council. It is often cited as a form of Christian socialism, and it has enjoyed widespread influence in Latin America and among the Jesuits, although its influence diminished within Catholicismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology"





Cardinal Ratzinger on Libertarian Theology :




http://www.christendom-awake.org/pages/rat...rationtheol.htm






All I'm saying is that it is worth looking into leaders more deeply.

Give up! There is nothing of marcos and what you claim narco or coke dealings. All this has to do is presume that he studied with some jesuits - SO WHAT! that he studied and europe....okay fine.. Simply, there is no concrete connection to Zero, all of it is speculation - and what is this theology liberation....its crap form the vatican and the black pope...that has nothing to do with EZLN...nothing..this is some view of a european devil who is seeking and twisting things to their benefit. In fact..this is more of the sickness you perpetrating... Why dont study some real books and stop letting your evil master direct you!

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Of course if that works then eugenics is not necessary. Genetic superiority theory could be another subject, in the future.

you can discuss it all you want it's still essentially bullshit. Perhaps you refer to the average IQ rating of ashkenazi jews being around 110 due to centuries of selective breeding? Or the bone fixers of Guatemala?

You severly limit your options as a human being in this shared experience if you believe in your racial genetics being in some way "superior" to anyone who isn't a white caucasian. There are many implicit differences in genetic make ups which correlate to habitat adaptation and illustrate the success of diversification in nature. But nothing is this designates a superiority. It's shite which ever camp spews it.

genetic marvels are seemingly random. Thanks Chris Carota

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/stats.ht...b618375ed194c47

I do believe that there are racial differences and that some races are better/superior than others on different things. Sports are an excellent example. I do not imply that white caucasians are as a race in general superior than others. Ashkenazi Jews definetely are very intelligent. Not very often do I have positive things to say about Jews but this definetely is worth mentioning. Significant race differences definetely are not bullshit.

Environment also has played an important role in the histories of different races, as well as contacts to other peoples and races.

So you agree that there are some minor differences, but not significant differences?

That documentary you cited certainly was interesting.

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Cannibalism does continue in Africa, even today. But this was a side note.

"racial bias than presenting any intellectualised cultural position"
No... Or maybe a bit. Do you think that all races are all the same, as good as everything, just different skin color, or do they have significant racial differences? This will be another topic later, but I'd like to know what you think.

Cannabilism exists in Europe too. In fact before reeling out the taboos maybe look where cannabilistic practices have been practiced in the world. It seems like a really unoriginal comment that some people rely on to try and denigrate an entire continent of people by. A fijian priest fork in the eye of your argument.

I think the "significance" of any racial differences are vastly outweighed by the similarities between all people.
The contention that races are generally "better" or "worse" than each other is crap. The same sort of rhetoric was used soon after the advent of mass agricultural practices in western europe to dehumanise Africans as no more than "cattle" which no doubt helped the uneducated white european conscripts kill and enslave without much reflection apon the atrocity, at the behest of their white european masters.

Certainly there are some sick individual cases of cannibalism in Europe too, but it was and is much more common in Africa, in Congo for example. There are numerous news articles concerning this, in context of witchcraft for example. But I only mentioned in context of high mortality rates, and as a side note that it still is going on, not to denigrate an entire continent of people. I probably should have also mentioned that it is going on elsewhere also, thank you for pointing that out to others. Because of these numerous misunderstandings, I will try to make my posts longer and more precise in the future to avoid misunderstandings.

I dont imply that races are generally superior to others (meaning that some race is better at everything in every way than the other), rather that there are noticeable differences between the races, and that some races indeed are better at some things than others. This certainly is not crap.

"which no doubt helped the uneducated white european conscripts kill and enslave without much reflection apon the atrocity, at the behest of their white european masters."
Probably... But you dont imply that it was the whites themselves that came and started the slavery in Africa (=enslaved) all by themselves, do you? If you are implying this, that simply isnt so. Blacks among themselves enslaved each other long before Europeans came, and it was the white Europeans (many Jews among them) who bought slaves from these black slave dealers.

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Well obviously I meant real help, not this fake help.

Yes, I do think that European intervention in Africa and especially European medicine has been the core reason for the population growth. What is your explanation?

I dont necess. downplay the effects of european medicine in population growth but now you want another forced "european" intervention to "stabilise" population.
"Real help" to my mind would have to start with the abolition of all "arrested development" projects and agendas. Otherwise, it's like pissing on someone and tell them not to get too wet and you'll pass an umbrella over in a minute.
Grabbing all the commodities. Pumping in firearms and formenting constant political instability. The requirements of restructural loans on common land and social provision. "real help" begins when we taje our own leaders agendas' to task. But of course we love our chocolate and wifi

I dont want any forced European intervention, just that the Africans themselves start to stabilise the population growth. And if they alone cannot accomplish that, maybe we (if nothing else works) could help [an indirect intervention]. Otherwise we seem to agree on this one.

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How is that laughable that we did defend Europe against Arabs, Mongols and Turks, for hundreds of years. How is it laughable that we have struggled for thousands of years, against ourselves and others? I emphasize that we have struggled for thousands of years to maintain our civilization. I dont see anything laughable in that fact. Numerous civilizations around the world have perished for good, we havent. What is laughable or paranoid about that? And the point I was making with this, was not to somehow motivate us to "fight the NWO" or something like that, but to simply demonstrate that we Europeans have a right to our homelands, just like all the other races have a right to their lands.

So when 'we' get out of those lands 'we' have a 'leg to stand on' with 'our' argument. You give the impression of the 'noble white races' maintaining the integrity of a pristine culture under constant peril from barbaric hordes at the gate. Whites have been just as incredibly expansionist as any other race, if not more. The islamic expansion was far greater, all in all, than that of the anglo-christians,norse or vikings but go tell that to the maya or the aboriginies.White people trampelled over innumerable peoples. Migration is fluxus and the fear genetic dilution you are worrying about, well, let's hope no one in your family has to guess who's coming for dinner as the guest might worry about the safety of the food by all accounts.

The American case is not altogether unique but where we can perceive an orchestrated scheme to create an overburgeoning migrant population, well, I can see that for it's political poison. Sure, I agree America must be able to regulate how much of an influx of migrant workers and illegal non-nationals flow in across her southern border at this point in history.

But as a general, the idea that whites are having to defend their homelands is a nonsense when european interests are as aggressive as ever overseas.

"You give the impression of the 'noble white races' maintaining the integrity of a pristine culture under constant peril from barbaric hordes at the gate."
:grin:Wrong impression, not exactly so. I guess in context of this debate I was simply countering the white guilt arguments, with too much of the other extreme end's arguments... However, the fact is that our great great great [...] ancestors have not had easy lives and they certainly have struggled. But today, simply a rational (strict) immigration policy is what I advocate, and that European civilization and white race have to be preserved, just as all other races have right to their preservation (if someone doesnt get this, compare this to native Americans and their right to preserve themselves). However, I dont believe in multiculturalism.

Yes, Europeans did big mistakes in past, and were very expansionist, and had no right to do what they did to Indians and other native populations. Europeans and Indians should have tried to do more to peacefully live together or go back to Europe. But what's done is done. And concerning this, I repeat, it should still be remembered that despite all of this unjustice, the Europeans did give their technological and scientific achievements to those native peoples, giving them a giant leap forward. So despite these wrongdoings there is still a bright side. This almost always is forgotten.

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We seem to agree that racism to some degree is natural.

"However, be that as it may, we do live in societies were multiculturalism has ALREADY occurred."
Yes, and it's costly, arouses racial tensions and problems of racism (which would not exist in homogenous nations), and numerous other problems. And the most significant problems start to occur, especially in the US, when it will be minority white.

I just advocate that Europeans, especially in the US would not bring anymore other races into their countries. No-one - except the illegal Mexican invaders - should be deported.

In the US they do prefer the company of their own race in scool cafeterias for example, this is common knowledge.

In Finland we have 5,2 million people, about 2,3% foreigners. Maybe 1% or less (0,5-1%) are non-whites. I'm not worried about Finland, our immigration policy is just fine (for us). I, just like the majority of our people, would like to see it strictly maintained this way.

It's the USA, that in 2050 will be majority non-white, that is an alarming example of multiculturalism. I later, in another topic, bring up the interracial crime and other statistics.

oh god. please. the crime statistics script. I guess that was the obvious next step after the accusations of cannabilism.:rolleyes: It can be only hoped you run a commentary on social exclusion to balance the picture.

Would you be against one of 0.5-1% non white finlanders holding a position in the finnish judiciary?
I think the rate of immigration into America across the mexican border should be regulated and significantly reduced primarily for economic considerations. Perhaps a more egalitarian balance of wealth in the world might encourage people to not wish to abandon their homelands and family in search of "the american dream"

"the crime statistics script. I guess that was the obvious next step after the accusations of cannabilism. It can be only hoped you run a commentary on social exclusion to balance the picture."
This is the state of mind that most of the multicultural people have: if you bring up some negative facts about non-white races, you are immediately angrily interpreted as "denigrating the entire people". At the same time, it's perfectly fine to critisize and denigrate Europeans and Christians.

The cannibalism, as I already said, was just meant to be a side note, it's you who made it into a big deal. Now again you imply that I brought up the crime statistics just so I can denigrate people.

Lets see now... I, like all others, have been allowed freely to question here - without groans - the Jews' holocaust story. We've also been allowed to present historical facts about Jews, for example, about the Bolshevik Revolution. Many people here also are allowed to think that majority of the Jews are Khazars. Some have presented facts about Jews' involvement in slave trade and even in the ritual murders in Europe. So we are allowed to question, critisize and doubt the foundation of the Jewish state for Jews (holocaust), Jews' identity (Khazars and holo), Jews' heritage and right for Jewish state in Middle East, Jews role in the Bolshevik revolution and the responsibility of the murders of millions of Ukranians and Russians, and Jews being heavily involved in communism and slave trade (plus many other facts about Jews). All these negative issues could definetely be interpreted as denigration, a much bigger denigration than crime statistics. Jews at least would interpret them that way, as antisemitism. Jews even try to enact legislation to prohibit this kind of speech, that they call "hate speech". So they definetely view this as denigration.

In addition, it seems to be perfectly fine to denigrate some peoples and races, such as white Europeans as evil oppressors. Nobody seems to have any problems with this. Had I not been here countering all of these white guilt arguments you had propably nodded your heads in shame thinking that doing so you would be responsible righteous whites who should be ashamed of themselves. Many of you would probably also think that whites deserve all the violence and crime they get from non-whites, as a "justified revenge" for past. I ought to know, I used to think this way. Many of you wouldnt probably even mind hearing a black nationalist advocating the extermination of white people in a major public meeting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN5StQAr7n0 [applause]
(and yes thank you nik mark 2, it doesnt mean that ALL blacks want to do so, so it is pointless to twist again this to mean that I implied every black wants it...)
What if it was the other way round? (a white advocating the extermination of blacks)

So many of you, like nik mark 2, become enraged if someone brings enough negative facts about non-white races, but nobody minds that the entire European people would be critisized, denigrated or maybe even exterminated. Does anyone see the hypocricy on this one? Most of you would feel horrified if it were the other way round.

And nobody seems to mind that Christians and Christian faith is being denigrated here, constantly. There are numerous documentaries critisizing Christians, their history and their faith. And many people on the forum state repeatedly how religions have oppressed and enslaved people, especially the Christian religion.

What else... How about Americans. Does anyone care that there are lots of people around the world who think that Americans are stupid? Not just some few individual Americans, but Americans as an entire people in the USA (the continent of North America) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE
(This was maybe a bit humorous.)

So why would it be so terrible to talk about interracial crime, and other negative facts, that even a suggestion of it made you state:
"It can be only hoped you run a commentary on social exclusion to balance the picture."?
Explain to me why it is OK to critisize the Jews (some of whom also think they are a race), Europeans, Christians and Americans, but not non-white races such as blacks and Mexicans; for example looking at their crime statistics? If we are going to condemn each other for some negative and critical topics that we bring up, because it might be offensive to some people (race), why even bother to talk about anything? Most of the information and opinions in this forum are negative and critical about almost everything. If we are going to discourage discussion because we are afraid that some people might find it offensive, we might as well stop talking. And this is what the Jewish organisations are trying hard to do, silence this kind of "offensive speech" either by conditioning us to silence each other through their media, or to enact legislation to do so. It's not just antisemitism and holocaust revisionism they want to make illegal, it's all of the offensive speech [that they define] against the protected groups: non-whites, homosexuals and Jews, that they want to make illegal. Whites are not a protected group.

But, about the interracial crime. What do you think: Is there a thing called interracial crime? [Yes] Is it done equally among the races in proportion to their numbers? [No] If not, is it just the economic problems? [No] And: Is it reported fairly, as much media coverage to white on black crime as the other way round? [No, no] I do have the figures, and I'll soon present them in another topic.

"The crime statistics script" is linked to this topic (illegal Mexicans), so this is not brought to denigrate people as you again implied. The fact is that there are over 10 million illegals in the US. The fact is also that there definetely are very many criminals among them. So of course it is relevant to know the statistics about the crimes they on average commit. And, since the US is becoming majority non-white in 2050, it would be very interesting and important to see how much crime all non-whites on average commit. It would be quite telling, and would give us clues on which direction the US is going. And since this situation in 2050 is tied into the idea of multiculturalism, it would also tell us whether this idea of multiculturalism is really that great or not. And it is also relevant to bring these facts forth since the mainstream media doesnt report them truthfully. So this is not a "denigration" or a side note, rather a relevant fact (link later).

Your condemning implication that it is denigrating a whole people (or a race) if I bring unpleasant and relevant facts about a certain topic and certain peoples, is groundless and hypocritical because you obviously have no problems when we critisize other peoples and races, such as Europeans for example. If we are allowed to critisize some people, then there is no reason why we could not freely critisize others as well.


"Would you be against one of 0.5-1% non white finlanders holding a position in the finnish judiciary?"
Mmm... no.


"Perhaps a more egalitarian balance of wealth in the world might encourage people to not wish to abandon their homelands and family in search of "the american dream"
Perhaps...

[Konev]

Is the idea of multiculturalism a good one?

Does it really work?

Is it a wonderful thing that the United States will be a majority non-white in 2050?

You might want to consider these questions by looking at the topic called: Race Differences.

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So you agree that there are some minor differences, but not significant differences?


It's entirely subjective as to what one constitutes as 'minor' or 'significant'.Again, I conjecture that the similarities amongst people FAR outweigh any differences


I dont believe in multiculturalism.

OK.No probhs man, it's your view!

I just advocate that Europeans, especially in the US would not bring anymore other races into their countries. No-one - except the illegal Mexican invaders - should be deported.

OK.. I am with you on that one. I voted now in your poll.

"the crime statistics script. I guess that was the obvious next step after the accusations of cannabilism. It can be only hoped you run a commentary on social exclusion to balance the picture."
This is the state of mind that most of the multicultural people have: if you bring up some negative facts about non-white races, you are immediately angrily interpreted as "denigrating the entire people". At the same time, it's perfectly fine to critisize and denigrate Europeans and Christians.

Please, don't label or catergorise me, I don't think that reflecting the higher level crime statistics of minority communities or impoverished nations necess. is tantamount to denigrating a whole race but such stats. definiely can and are used for such purposes. That was all. I pushed you for a clarification and expansion on what you were saying. I think you'll agree that that has been a worthwhile exercise.

I believe economic factors are hugley contributary. Jewry is not really a comparable example in these terms as the per capita wealth is much higher.

It is not "perfectly fine to critisize and denigrate Europeans and Christians." I never said this, please don't attest that I did! Also on this board I have defended Christianity from attack. I am not a Christian but some of the anti christian secular rhetoric that sometimes is expressed here is also ditressing and stereotypification. I just say it as I see it irrespective of my own race or creed. I don't carry much white guilt, if any, tbh. At least not that I've found after actually considering it for some time.




In addition, it seems to be perfectly fine to denigrate some peoples and races, such as white Europeans as evil oppressors. Nobody seems to have any problems with this. Had I not been here countering all of these white guilt arguments you had propably nodded your heads in shame thinking that doing so you would be responsible righteous whites who should be ashamed of themselves.
So many of you, like nik mark 2, become enraged if someone brings enough negative facts about non-white races, but nobody minds that the entire European people would be critisized, denigrated or maybe even exterminated. Does anyone see the hypocricy on this one? Most of you would feel horrified if it were the other way round.

Kon3v, I wasn't "enraged" at all. Merely defending against what seemingly was approaching an unbalanced position. You can see in this thread I have also contended mexica's contention that all white people are sick evil colonialists hell bent of eradicating all non-white races.



"It can be only hoped you run a commentary on social exclusion to balance the picture."?
Explain to me why it is OK to critisize the Jews (some of whom also think they are a race), Europeans, Christians and Americans, but not non-white races such as blacks and Mexicans; for example looking at their crime statistics?


It's not. I was replying to what I saw as an unbalanced portrayal of the situation vis a vi any 'inherent' racial characteristics



"Would you be against one of 0.5-1% non white finlanders holding a position in the finnish judiciary?"
Mmm... no.

good on you, friend!

"Perhaps a more egalitarian balance of wealth in the world might encourage people to not wish to abandon their homelands and family in search of "the american dream"
Perhaps...


Yes, perhaps!

Good post Kon3v. Thanks for the clarification of your position. Tbh, I agree almost completely with what you have said in this post.
My only additions would be.

A) Multiculturalism is ALREADY a current reality, so whether you agree with it or not, the most constructive approach is probably to work on successfully reintergrating the populace rather than highlighting the inherent difficulties that we are faced with as mixed bag nations.

Lol my vote has made it 50/50 so far.One vote to tip the balance. that's voting for you..always a majority of one heh

Once more....In the continent of the United States...mexicans are not illegals!!! They have been on the continent for a vast thousands of years. You just do not get it...

Just when the indigenous people told the europeans that their land was not for sale...it belonged to mother earth and they were of mother earth...Europeans could not get it...still they do not get the concept of mother earth. Europeans think of mother earth like some type of whore to be exploited, defecated on, pissed on, and thrown away...just like its happening IN THE CONGO. 45,000 PEOPLE ARE BEINT EXTERMINATED BY WHITE EUROPEAN CORPORATIONS WITHOUT ANY THOUGHT TO THEIR HUMANITY....YES..PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE BEING EXTERMINATED EACH AND EVERY DAY, FAR MORE THAN EUROPEANS. WHAT NOW, THE CONGO PEOPLE WILL BE THE ILLEGAL ALIENS AND THE TRUE LEGAL ONES WILL BE THE EUROEPANS, AS IT HAS HAPPEND IN AFRICA WITH THE DUTCH, THE ENGLISH, AND OTHERS. WHAT KIND OF SICK MIND DOES NOT SEE THIS. YOUR HISTORY IS FLAWED, TWISTD, AND PROGRAMMED. INDIGENOUS PEOPLE ARE STILL STRUGGLING FOR SURVIVAL IN THE VALLEY OF THE EUROPEAN IMPOSED WAY. INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF NORTH AMERICA, CENTRAL, AND SOUTH DO NOT NEED OF YOUR HIGH TECHNOLOGY...BUT EUROPEANS DO NEED OF THE RESOURCES THAT THEY POSSES, BUT YET CREDIT IS NOT GIVEN AS IF EUROPEANS OWNED THE WHOLE DAMNED WORLD AND CREDIT TO NO ONE OWED. ONLY SICK MENTAL PEOPLE AS BUSH, AND THE SECRET CAPATALIST EUROPEANS SEE THEIR WAY IN LINEAR FORM. EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED, EARTH, NATURE, UNIVERSE...BUT YET FAIL TO UNDERSTAND...TIME AND TIME AGAIN...EUROEPANS ARE BEING TOLD, YET THIER SICK WAYS OF CAPATALISM, ETHNIC CLEANSING CONTINUES...ITS NOT ONLY ETHNIC CLEANSING OR RACISM AGAINST PEOPLE OF COLOR BUT


EXTREME PREJUDICE, EXTREME ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM AGAINST NATURE BY EUROPEANS SUCKING THE LIVING HELL OUT OF THE EARTHS RESOURCES IN THE NAME OF PURE AND SIMPLE GREED AND PROFIT. AND THEIR WAY OF SEEING THINGS. WHATS NEXT...FIND THE LITTLE GREEN OR GRAY MEN AND START ENSLAVING THEM, EXTERMINATING THEM IF ITS NOT ALREADY BEING DONE IN AREA-51?

NARROW MIND DOES NOT STOP TO AMAZE THE ONE WAY MENTAL VIEW OF JUST ME, ME, ME. THATS WHAT WE CALL HITLERS, CAPATALISM ORIGINATING FROM EUROPE AND THE WAY OF TAKING PEOPLE INTO HELL AND CHANGING THE MINDSET TO CO-EXIST WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE, THE HUMAN PEOPLE OF COLOR, BUT ALSO NOT GIVING A DAMN ABOUT THIS WORLD AND ITS NATURAL BEAUTY.

IN TERMS OF NOT LETTING IN ANY RACE INTO THE UNITED STATES....WHO MADE YOU THE ORIGINAL LANDLORD...HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT EUROPEANS HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE 220 YEARS COMPARED TO MEXICANS WHO HAVE BEEN WITHIN THE CONTINENT OF THE U.S.A FOR MORE THAN 40,000 YEARS...


WHO IS THE ILLEGAL HERE??????


THE WARPED MIND OF A EUROPEAN BENT ON PROFIT AND RACISM BY THAT SAME TOKEN OF PROFITEERING IS VERY SICKENING WHEN THEY CONSIDER THEMSELVES AS OWNERS OF STOLEN LAND. EUROPEANS ARE IN OCCUPIED LAND...

PAY A LITTLE RESPECT TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ON U.S CONTINENT FAR MORE THAN EUROPEANS...BUT NOT EVEN THAT....INSTEAD...WHAT PEOPLE GET WHO HAVE BEEN ON U.S SOIL FAR MORE YEARS....IS A STAB ON THE BACK WITH A RUSTED KNIFE.....

THE UNITED STATES OF THE WHITES HAS NO RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE OF MEXICO, HAS NO RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE OF INDIGENOUS ORIGINAL LANDLORDS, HAS NO RESPECT FOR CENTRAL AMERICA, HAS NO RESPECT FOR SOUTH AMERICA AS NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH WITH CULTURE......


BUT YET....PAY QUITE ALOT OF RESPECT TO FRANCE, SPAIN, GERMANY, FINLAND, ENGLAND AND EVEN THE ZIONIST WHITE JEWS WHO HAVE INFILTRATED THE HOUSE OF THE WHITES IN D.C.

YET...IT IS MEXICO, CENTRAL, AND THE SOUTH WHO HAVE TONES OF RESOURCES WHO THE EUROPEANS THINK THEY OWN IT WITHOUT ANY RESPECT TO WHO OWNS THE RESOURCES....

WHILE THE SO CALLED SELF-LABELED WHITES AKA TRUE AMERICANS OF THE U.S.A....SICKENING MENTALITY...BUT TRUE WARPED MENTALITY - PAY RESPECT TO YOUR EUROPEAN NATIONS IN EUROPE...THE WHITE HOUSE IN D.C IS BEING INFECTED AND INFILTRATED BY YOURS TRULY CRUELLY - YOUR OWN PEOPLE AS THE ZIONIST NAZIS, EUROPEAN SPIES ALL OVER THE HOUSE OF WHITES - TRYING TO TOPPLE IT DOWN FROM THE INSIDE OUT - ALL THE WHILE - LATIN AMERICA MINDS THEIR OWN BUSINESS ON HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE - WHILE THE EUROPEANS PROPAGATE RACISM, DIVISION, EXPLOITATION OF RESOURCES, LIKE TO GET FAT ON GREED BASED ON THE GENOCIDE OF THE CONGO, MEXICANS, CENTRAL AMERICANS AND OTHERS....

LIKE COCKROACHES FIGHTING FOR ALL THEY CAN BE WHILE DESTROYING THE EARTH WITHOUT ANY REMORSE FOR ANYTHING OR ANYBODY OUTSIDE THEIR COLOR SPECTRUM.

THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TELLING THE EUROPEANS FOR TWO CENTURIES...BUT YOU DONT LISTEN...

A TIME WILL THOUGHT....A TIME WILL COME...EUROPEANS SO CALLED AMERICANS OR SELF WHITE LABLED HAVE TO START BUILDING A TYPE OF CONSCIOUSNESS THAT WILL MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. WHY DOESN'T THE WHITE MAN GET ALONG WITH OTHER RACES, THATS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW? NOT EVEN WITH NATURE...WHAT IS GENETICALLY WRONG WITH THE WHITE EUROPEAN RACE?????


CONGO LOSING 45,000 HUMAN BEINGS...BUT THAT DOES NOT BOTHER THE EUROPEANS BECAUSE IT BENEFITS THE EUROPEANS IN GREED, XBOX, AND OTHER USELESS CRAP THAT MAKES THE EUROPEANS TURN AROUND AND GLORIFY THEMSELVES AS "SUPERIOR GREEDY RACIST INTOLERANT". This does not include all Europeans. Only the wicked and barbaric ones who seek the ME ONLY! AFRICA HAS BEEN SETUP FOR EXTERMINATION - AS WELL AS OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD........BUT MANY EUROPEANS CONTINUE LIVING WITH A WARP AND TWISTED BRAIN OF THE SO CALLED " ALL ANSWERS" . BECAREFUL WITH THAT JOKE...BECAUSE IT COULD BE ON YOU!!!

OH YEA...FRANCE JUST WENT BELLY UP - ITS GOVERNMENT IS COLLAPSING basically because of its intolerance to live like human beings!!!! such superior mentality...now look whats happening....funny sheet!!!