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02-08-2008, 07:14 AM
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Quote:Maybe I will take up his offer and be a guest.

The proof is quite overwhelming. Everyone knows as the survivors die off, it's easier to mould the opinion of the younger generations who didn't get to truly know how terrible the Holocaust really was and sway them away from what actually happened.

The proof:

1. Written documents—hundreds of thousands of letters, memos, blueprints, orders, bills, speeches, articles, memoirs, and confessions.

A little torture or threats to a prisoners family can make them say anything. That is SPECIFICALLY why courts DO NOT ALLOW confessions under duress.

Quote:2. Eyewitness testimony—accounts from survivors, Jewish Sonderkommandos (who were forced to help load bodies from the gas chambers into the crematoria in exchange for the promise of survival), SS guards, commandants, local townspeople, and even high-ranking Nazis who spoke openly about the mass murder of the Jews.

Unfortunately us revisionists have pointed out how "witnesses" have contradicted themselves by the dozens and hundreds. For example, holohoax survivor Abrahman Bomba claims he was a barber who gave haircuts to LIVE people right before they were gassed. In the movie (which I seeded on the tracker) The Grey Zone, they shaved their heads AFTER they were dead. Which was it? :confused:

Another example,... they "witnesses" who dug they escape tunnel at Sobibor stated it could only be dug 5 feet or so below grade due to potential water table flooding of the tunnel, YET, the "sonderkommando" witnesess said they burned bodies in open pits 25 feet deep at THE SAME LOCATION. IOW, they burned them in a POND!!!

Get a brain, OR, before spouting off, do some research... the research will develop your brain.

I could illustrate other frauds, but fuck it, you're too ********* to investigate the truth anyhow.

Quote:3. Photographs—including official military and press photographs, civilian photographs, secret photographs taken by survivors, aerial photographs, German and Allied film footage, unofficial photographs taken by the German military.

Photos are VERY GLARING in their errors!!!

For example, Allied arial recon pics show shadows cast by the "chimneys" that the zyklon-b pellets were dropped through... supposedly. These photos were released in 1973 by the CIA. These photos are DATE AND TIME STAMPED. HOWEVER, using an ephemeris ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephemeris ) and knowing the date and time the pics were taken, (ie: knowing where the sun was in the sky) plus knowing the height of the chimney, length of the shadows as THEY SHOULD BE can be calculated. In the FAKED recon photos, the chimneys would have had to be THIRTEEN FEET TALL!!!!!

I've actually got a photo of ephilution on the roof of gas/krema 1 (main camp) when WE visisted Auschwitz. We both know how tall these chimneys really were.

Want more photos? http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v01/v01p-59_Walendy.html PLEASE EXPLAIN why the holohoax fraudsters faked these! It's obvious the manipulation happened.

If the story is true, why fake pics? Let truth stand on its own two legs!


Quote:4. The camps themselves—concentration camps, work camps, and extermination camps that still exist in varying degrees of originality and reconstruction.

As I just pointed out, I've been to the most infamous "death camp" of them all. Have you been to ANY of them?

As for reconstruction...LOL... the very notion of building something (a)new lends itself to building whatever you want for whatever agenda doesn't it?

As for "originality", the gas chamber Phil and I examined is passed off by tour guides as being in its "original state". Given that it's original, perhaps you can explain the gas chamber wooden door, glass pane window and LOCK ON THE INSIDE?!?!?!

Quote:5. Inferential evidence—population demographics, reconstructed from the pre-World War II era; if six million Jews were not killed, what happened to them all?

First of all, the world almanac from the war years actually lists AN INCREASE in jews world wide. Moreover, the OFFICIAL death count from Auschwitz ALONE has dropped from 4.4 to 1.1 million. It's no longer 6 million,.... knock 3.3 million off OFFICIALLY as determined by holocaust SUPPORTERS!!!

For what it's worth, where did 6 million Israelis come from? It sure the hell wasn't China!

Quote:How can you say the Jewish Sonderkommandos were lying?

Very easily I can say that.. people with agendas DO LIE. A classic example is Bush and Iraq's WMD's.
Want other examples?

Quote:To say there wasn't a plan to exterminate the Jews, and the use of gas chambers is saying that the Rothschilds and the Zionists wouldn't do such a thing. So in fact you're letting the Rothschild's off with a lighter sentence.

I think would do such a thing, but simply FAKING IT (as shown above) plus having politicians pass laws that incarcerate people for not buying into it sufficed. It's like faking your death so your wife collects life insurance.... you don't really need DEATH do you?


Quote:But Ctrl, I would probably agree with you on everything else, just not this. Until I am shown evidence that could stand up in court, I cannot subscribe to such a view.

Do you think that courts/judges are somehow immune from human biases? That they never err?

Screw courts... please disect my assertions above PIECE BY PIECE like I did with yours, or failing that, at least admit you never have investigated the subject. In the face of what I just threw at you, you'll only sound stupid saying "they told me it's true, ergo it is". Bring some facts like I did or be quiet.
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