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[plasticfan]

Quote:Still can't get on.
Does anyone have any idea on how to fix this issue? It only happens for http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/

:cry:

Could be your firewall not allowing web traffic on non standard ports, but I'm no expert.

[Winston]

[quote name='ADLAY' date='Jan 13 2008, 05:04 AM' post='123412'] [quote name='LeveL' post='123402' date='Jan 13 2008, 02:04 PM']
I use Firefox 1.8.2...and IE comes up with the same screen of being "timed out"[/quote]

Updating your Firefox may help,i think the latest is 2.01.

[Guest]

sounds like you're on our blocklist

[ADLAY]

Quote:sounds like you're on our blocklist

That would most probably be the reason.. Can you unblock my IP or port or whatever it is?

I always help seed. I've got a lot of docos I can seed for torrents that need help. But when I'm downloading 3-4 torrents at a time, my upload to at least 1-2 torrents is usually low like 0.1-1.0 etc.

It wouldn't be a problem if there wasn't soo much information to download.:nuts:

[Guest]

I can look into it, altho I'm not so sure you're on our side sometimes. You never comment on anything but jewish issues, so I'm begining to think you're just a watcher of us... which I can live without.

Have you caused any shit on the tracker? Ill comments perhaps?

[ADLAY]

Quote:I can look into it, altho I'm not so sure you're on our side sometimes. You never comment on anything but jewish issues, so I'm begining to think you're just a watcher of us... which I can live without.

Have you caused any shit on the tracker? Ill comments perhaps?

If you could look into it, thanks, it's where I get most of my docos from. I'm on your side. Just the Holocaust is a touchy subject. I know how people could lose family and friends voicing an opposite opinion on it. But I admit, there might be some truth to some of the stuff, but then I see Hitler calling for the extermination of the Jews in Europe, during a speech, and then I'm back to believing there were gas chambers.

I may have foul-mouthed some individuals on the tracker, including ognir on the Protocols of Zion being upped again because I believe it has been proven to be a hoax.

I'll keep my views toned down much more in the future. :biggrin:

[Ognir]

Quote:I may have foul-mouthed some individuals on the tracker, including ognir

You are off the blocked list for the moment
Bitching at me is fine, watch your mouth on other's people's hard efforts uploading

So explain again, the holoHOAX problem you have?

[ADLAY]

Thank you :biggrin:


And I'll leave the Holocaust issue for the diff. part of the forum.:quiet:

[Shinobi]

There are good liars, and not so good liars....
I can flush each and everyone of them out on this forum
*EYES OPEN PEOPLE*

:biggrin:

Quote:and so I came on here to defend the official story of there not being gas chambers

Are you sure now ADLAY ? :smile:

You see there are those of us who are constantly awake in the world

and here are your last famous words

Quote:Let me ask you this then I'll be leaving this place for good as it's a fucking disgrace.

Have you ever met a holocaust survivor???

My parents used to know a couple, and weren't able to have kids because of the experiments they conducted on her. She was also branded and saw the shit that happened.

Now they are both dead and now fucking idiots like yourself can ramble the most fucked up shit because they're no longer here to testify it did happen.

http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?ac...st&p=101571

oh and these here are classic

Quote:"If there was so much evidence, then there would be no need for laws"

It's to stop hate speech from denying such a fucked up event. To deny it happened is just a continuation of attacking the Jews which has happened throughout history. Different times, same idealogy, that it's a huge "Jewish/Zionsit conspiracy".

I'll give you an example. There is hard evidence that we went to the moon, yet some whackos still say it never happened, that we didn't land on the moon.

Do you think there should be laws against victimising individuals??? or do those individuals have to suffer???

:scream:

:wink:

[ADLAY]

Quote:oh and these here are classic

Quote:"If there was so much evidence, then there would be no need for laws"

It's to stop hate speech from denying such a fucked up event. To deny it happened is just a continuation of attacking the Jews which has happened throughout history. Different times, same idealogy, that it's a huge "Jewish/Zionsit conspiracy".

I'll give you an example. There is hard evidence that we went to the moon, yet some whackos still say it never happened, that we didn't land on the moon.

Do you think there should be laws against victimising individuals??? or do those individuals have to suffer???

:scream:

:wink:

It's a very fine line on hate speech. If you were an Albanian and some people were claiming "it didn't happen the way you say" and said the Serbs didn't engage in genocide, would you want these clear lies to be spread with no interference? What about the Serbs doing it out of malice but disguise it as them being "revionists" or "truth seekers", which parallels neo-nazi's doing the same thing for the Holocaust.

Freedom of Speech is limited, just as Freedom in society is limited to protect everyone's individual rights. We have restrictions to stop individuals from hurting others.

As I said, It's a very fine line to deny the Holocaust, not to question certain aspects, but to deny as if it's factual.

[Guest]

Quote:As I said, It's a very fine line to deny the Holocaust, not to question certain aspects, but to deny as if it's factual.

It's been brought to my attention that your IP is indeed banned altho no reason was given. Since then, today in fact I read tracker comments by you that referred to holohoax deniers as (and I quote) "fucktwits".

Think what you may about us, but flaming doesn't exactly give me reason to lift the ban.


ADLAY, I have next weekend off.... got skype? Want to prove me wrong on radio concen? I'd love to have you as a guest.

[ADLAY]

Wouldn't "holohoax deniers" mean they believe there were gas chambers?


But in regard to your offer, now don't take this as an insult, but I wouldn't want to embarrass you in front of all the truth seekers out there.

[ADLAY]

Maybe I will take up his offer and be a guest.

The proof is quite overwhelming. Everyone knows as the survivors die off, it's easier to mould the opinion of the younger generations who didn't get to truly know how terrible the Holocaust really was and sway them away from what actually happened.

The proof:

1. Written documents—hundreds of thousands of letters, memos, blueprints, orders, bills, speeches, articles, memoirs, and confessions.

2. Eyewitness testimony—accounts from survivors, Jewish Sonderkommandos (who were forced to help load bodies from the gas chambers into the crematoria in exchange for the promise of survival), SS guards, commandants, local townspeople, and even high-ranking Nazis who spoke openly about the mass murder of the Jews.

3. Photographs—including official military and press photographs, civilian photographs, secret photographs taken by survivors, aerial photographs, German and Allied film footage, unofficial photographs taken by the German military.

4. The camps themselves—concentration camps, work camps, and extermination camps that still exist in varying degrees of originality and reconstruction.

5. Inferential evidence—population demographics, reconstructed from the pre-World War II era; if six million Jews were not killed, what happened to them all?


How can you say the Jewish Sonderkommandos were lying?

To say there wasn't a plan to exterminate the Jews, and the use of gas chambers is saying that the Rothschilds and the Zionists wouldn't do such a thing. So in fact you're letting the Rothschild's off with a lighter sentence.

Charge them with faking the Holocaust rather than being responsible for exterminating individuals in gas chambers.

That's my opinion, to insult me nik mark 2, just shows your evidence mustn't be that strong.

But Ctrl, I would probably agree with you on everything else, just not this. Until I am shown evidence that could stand up in court, I cannot subscribe to such a view.

[Guest]

Quote:Maybe I will take up his offer and be a guest.

The proof is quite overwhelming. Everyone knows as the survivors die off, it's easier to mould the opinion of the younger generations who didn't get to truly know how terrible the Holocaust really was and sway them away from what actually happened.

The proof:

1. Written documents—hundreds of thousands of letters, memos, blueprints, orders, bills, speeches, articles, memoirs, and confessions.

A little torture or threats to a prisoners family can make them say anything. That is SPECIFICALLY why courts DO NOT ALLOW confessions under duress.

Quote:2. Eyewitness testimony—accounts from survivors, Jewish Sonderkommandos (who were forced to help load bodies from the gas chambers into the crematoria in exchange for the promise of survival), SS guards, commandants, local townspeople, and even high-ranking Nazis who spoke openly about the mass murder of the Jews.

Unfortunately us revisionists have pointed out how "witnesses" have contradicted themselves by the dozens and hundreds. For example, holohoax survivor Abrahman Bomba claims he was a barber who gave haircuts to LIVE people right before they were gassed. In the movie (which I seeded on the tracker) The Grey Zone, they shaved their heads AFTER they were dead. Which was it? :confused:

Another example,... they "witnesses" who dug they escape tunnel at Sobibor stated it could only be dug 5 feet or so below grade due to potential water table flooding of the tunnel, YET, the "sonderkommando" witnesess said they burned bodies in open pits 25 feet deep at THE SAME LOCATION. IOW, they burned them in a POND!!!

Get a brain, OR, before spouting off, do some research... the research will develop your brain.

I could illustrate other frauds, but fuck it, you're too ********* to investigate the truth anyhow.

Quote:3. Photographs—including official military and press photographs, civilian photographs, secret photographs taken by survivors, aerial photographs, German and Allied film footage, unofficial photographs taken by the German military.

Photos are VERY GLARING in their errors!!!

For example, Allied arial recon pics show shadows cast by the "chimneys" that the zyklon-b pellets were dropped through... supposedly. These photos were released in 1973 by the CIA. These photos are DATE AND TIME STAMPED. HOWEVER, using an ephemeris ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephemeris ) and knowing the date and time the pics were taken, (ie: knowing where the sun was in the sky) plus knowing the height of the chimney, length of the shadows as THEY SHOULD BE can be calculated. In the FAKED recon photos, the chimneys would have had to be THIRTEEN FEET TALL!!!!!

I've actually got a photo of ephilution on the roof of gas/krema 1 (main camp) when WE visisted Auschwitz. We both know how tall these chimneys really were.

Want more photos? http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v01/v01p-59_Walendy.html PLEASE EXPLAIN why the holohoax fraudsters faked these! It's obvious the manipulation happened.

If the story is true, why fake pics? Let truth stand on its own two legs!

Quote:4. The camps themselves—concentration camps, work camps, and extermination camps that still exist in varying degrees of originality and reconstruction.

As I just pointed out, I've been to the most infamous "death camp" of them all. Have you been to ANY of them?

As for reconstruction...LOL... the very notion of building something (a)new lends itself to building whatever you want for whatever agenda doesn't it?

As for "originality", the gas chamber Phil and I examined is passed off by tour guides as being in its "original state". Given that it's original, perhaps you can explain the gas chamber wooden door, glass pane window and LOCK ON THE INSIDE?!?!?!

Quote:5. Inferential evidence—population demographics, reconstructed from the pre-World War II era; if six million Jews were not killed, what happened to them all?

First of all, the world almanac from the war years actually lists AN INCREASE in jews world wide. Moreover, the OFFICIAL death count from Auschwitz ALONE has dropped from 4.4 to 1.1 million. It's no longer 6 million,.... knock 3.3 million off OFFICIALLY as determined by holocaust SUPPORTERS!!!

For what it's worth, where did 6 million Israelis come from? It sure the hell wasn't China!

Quote:How can you say the Jewish Sonderkommandos were lying?

Very easily I can say that.. people with agendas DO LIE. A classic example is Bush and Iraq's WMD's.
Want other examples?

Quote:To say there wasn't a plan to exterminate the Jews, and the use of gas chambers is saying that the Rothschilds and the Zionists wouldn't do such a thing. So in fact you're letting the Rothschild's off with a lighter sentence.

I think would do such a thing, but simply FAKING IT (as shown above) plus having politicians pass laws that incarcerate people for not buying into it sufficed. It's like faking your death so your wife collects life insurance.... you don't really need DEATH do you?

Quote:But Ctrl, I would probably agree with you on everything else, just not this. Until I am shown evidence that could stand up in court, I cannot subscribe to such a view.

Do you think that courts/judges are somehow immune from human biases? That they never err?

Screw courts... please disect my assertions above PIECE BY PIECE like I did with yours, or failing that, at least admit you never have investigated the subject. In the face of what I just threw at you, you'll only sound stupid saying "they told me it's true, ergo it is". Bring some facts like I did or be quiet.

[ADLAY]

Quote:A little torture or threats to a prisoners family can make them say anything. That is SPECIFICALLY why courts DO NOT ALLOW confessions under duress.

Do you have one shred of evidence that this took place?

Quote:Unfortunately us revisionists have pointed out how "witnesses" have contradicted themselves by the dozens and hundreds. For example, holohoax survivor Abrahman Bomba claims he was a barber who gave haircuts to LIVE people right before they were gassed. In the movie (which I seeded on the tracker) The Grey Zone, they shaved their heads AFTER they were dead. Which was it? :confused:

Another example,... they "witnesses" who dug they escape tunnel at Sobibor stated it could only be dug 5 feet or so below grade due to potential water table flooding of the tunnel, YET, the "sonderkommando" witnesess said they burned bodies in open pits 25 feet deep at THE SAME LOCATION. IOW, they burned them in a POND!!!

Get a brain, OR, before spouting off, do some research... the research will develop your brain.

I could illustrate other frauds, but fuck it, you're too ********* to investigate the truth anyhow.

Pleaser source me to where these ""witnesses" have contradicted themselves by the dozens and hundreds"

Quote:Photos are VERY GLARING in their errors!!!

For example, Allied arial recon pics show shadows cast by the "chimneys" that the zyklon-b pellets were dropped through... supposedly. These photos were released in 1973 by the CIA. These photos are DATE AND TIME STAMPED. HOWEVER, using an ephemeris ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephemeris ) and knowing the date and time the pics were taken, (ie: knowing where the sun was in the sky) plus knowing the height of the chimney, length of the shadows as THEY SHOULD BE can be calculated. In the FAKED recon photos, the chimneys would have had to be THIRTEEN FEET TALL!!!!!

I've actually got a photo of ephilution on the roof of gas/krema 1 (main camp) when WE visisted Auschwitz. We both know how tall these chimneys really were.

Want more photos? http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v01/v01p-59_Walendy.html PLEASE EXPLAIN why the holohoax fraudsters faked these! It's obvious the manipulation happened.

If the story is true, why fake pics? Let truth stand on its own two legs!

Have you had this scientifically analysed, or only internet users using zoom on microsoft paint?

Quote:As I just pointed out, I've been to the most infamous "death camp" of them all. Have you been to ANY of them?

As for reconstruction...LOL... the very notion of building something (a)new lends itself to building whatever you want for whatever agenda doesn't it?

As for "originality", the gas chamber Phil and I examined is passed off by tour guides as being in its "original state". Given that it's original, perhaps you can explain the gas chamber wooden door, glass pane window and LOCK ON THE INSIDE?!?!?!

It was reconstruced because the Nazi's DESTORYED THEIR EVIDENCE. This has been made very clear they hurried to destory the evidence because the allies were getting closer.

Quote:Very easily I can say that.. people with agendas DO LIE. A classic example is Bush and Iraq's WMD's.
Want other examples?

So no survivers were telling the truth? Are you just constantly slandering the Jews saying they all lied?

Quote:I think would do such a thing, but simply FAKING IT (as shown above) plus having politicians pass laws that incarcerate people for not buying into it sufficed. It's like faking your death so your wife collects life insurance.... you don't really need DEATH do you?

You protect racists like David Irving? He was preaching hate speech...

Quote:Do you think that courts/judges are somehow immune from human biases? That they never err?

Screw courts... please disect my assertions above PIECE BY PIECE like I did with yours, or failing that, at least admit you never have investigated the subject. In the face of what I just threw at you, you'll only sound stupid saying "they told me it's true, ergo it is". Bring some facts like I did or be quiet.

Please do tell, why is it only now that people are saying the holocaust never happened? I think you'll find that as the survivors continue to die off more people will believe in such an idea because they won't have knowledge of how bad it actually was and won't be able to comprehend something so evil occuring. By spreading this rhetoric, which no respectable historian believes, you are spreading disinfo.

The House of Rothschild needs to pay for what they did to the Jews. Stop letting them get by with just "faking" it.