Happy Martin Luther King Day

[JohnDoe1984]

Has anyone seen the interview given by the lawyer William Pepper that defended James Earl Ray on the tracker?

He also represented the King family in a wrongful death lawsuit against the government and won. I found it very interesting.

According to him King was killed by a government military sniper team. Some members of the team he found and had testify in court.

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/comments...1c7407ffed3ff5f

Quote:An Act of State tells the story of how Martin Luther King was killed, not by James Ray, a
bumbling patsy, but by a Memphis policeman in league with the Mafia, backed by soldiers --
some armed with high-powered rifles, others with cameras to film the event -- in a special
Military Intelligence unit. The story is broad and deep and implicates high-ranking officers
in all the American intelligence and security branches. And it stars Raoul, the assembly
line worker now living under government protection. Raoul guided James Ray after his prison
escape to a bathroom in a seedy Memphis hotel, above a greasy spoon cafe owned by a sad sack
named Loyd Jowers, a creepy old white man having sex with Betty, a 16-year-old black girl.
Betty, they say around Memphis, got hooked on drugs and had several illegitimate kids.

Pepper, who resides in Cambridge and spends his time practicing law in United States and the
United Kingdom, assembles Jowers and Betty and about 70 other witnesses to make a convincing
argument that Jowers and known and unknown members of the U.S. government conspired to kill
MLK. Indeed, the argument convinced a jury of exactly that in a civil suit brought by the
King family against Jowers and the U.S. government. The trial was held in Memphis in 1999,
but the Department of Justice, as Pepper explains, buried the verdict beneath an avalanche
of lies and distortions, with a little help from its friends in the media.

The government had already been found guilty in court of conspiracy to murder MLK before they made this "holiday". The mainstream media somehow never found this out. You'd think it would make a good story on of these MLK holidays just to give them something to talk about, but I've never heard it mentioned.

[Guest]

I dunno hhq, I've not read Mx, but I've got vids of him talking... nasty bitch I think.... him and mlk are apples and oranges to me.

FWIW, don't kid yourself on the stamp... http://cgi.ebay.com/Sioux-Chief-Sitting-Bu...9QQcmdZViewItem wanna buy one?

[Guest]

Quote:Malcolm X is a racist nigger,

Quote:Malcolm X is a racist ...

Now your taking me out of context.:P

[Hei Hu Quan]

Wow, that's a surprise... the Sitting Bull stamp! How about Rain-in-the-Face, the Lakota Sioux warrior who dealt the death blow to Custer? But seriously, you know what I mean. Mike, I really urge you to check out "The Autobiography of Malcolm X" and I think your perception will change of him. You may have heard his early speeches and out of context I would imagine that would be very harsh and off-putting. Much the way a Jewish person might react by hearing us angrily rail against Zionists for the first time in the forums. Out of the context of our history and background they may isolate the experience and mistakenly overgeneralise their first encounter as anti-Jewish. Then when they read with an open mind and suss where we are actually coming from, the story is then told in full and they learn that Judaism is not synonymous with Zionism. By attacking the relative minority of Zionist criminals we are not attacking Judaism. You follow?

Ask yourself this what made Malcolm X so angry? What drove him to make statements and speeches that were inspirational to some and repellent to others? What was the environment like back then? Check out the book and you'll find out why. Everyone of us says or makes statements based from where they are knowledge-wise at a particular juncture of their lives, later on in life as experience grows, so does their knowledge and then statements grow to reflect that.

We are all on a journey and sometimes the paths we first take are different from those we take later in this trip we call life. Especially when we look about the scenery and begin infusing the experiences gained while travelling to our destination.

Cheers friend.

[Guest]

Out of context? It was from the horse's mouth.

I don't think you can compare what I heard him say and how it struck me to a jew hearing our antizionism talk.... more like a jew walking into the theatre to see gone with the wind but stumbling across der ewige jude.

[SiLVa]

Yeah I have to agree with HHQ on Malcolm X. Definately was a guy who went through different paradigms in his life.
At one point, earlier on he was known as Detroit Red, a street hustler, who robbed, worked as a pimp, and sold drugs even. In Prison he was indoctrinated into the NOI, he may have shared some racist views at the time. But it was a reactionary thing, look at what was going on then.
Long short of it, after making his pilgrimage to Mecca, his paradigm shifted once again...and sadly most likely the reason he was killed.

[Guest]

well all those transitions in his life are news to me.... i just saw some clips of the guy, knew very little about him, and felt like a jew watching the pellets fall from the ceiling. i'll look into him more, but still, neither of you gave reason why he's worthy of a holiday

[SiLVa]

I dont think Malcolm X has a holiday...maybe i missed something.

[Hei Hu Quan]

Quote:Has anyone seen the interview given by the lawyer William Pepper that defended James Earl Ray on the tracker?

He also represented the King family in a wrongful death lawsuit against the government and won. I found it very interesting.

According to him King was killed by a government military sniper team. Some members of the team he found and had testify in court.

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/commen...7ffed3ff5f

QUOTE
An Act of State tells the story of how Martin Luther King was killed, not by James Ray, a
bumbling patsy, but by a Memphis policeman in league with the Mafia, backed by soldiers --
some armed with high-powered rifles, others with cameras to film the event -- in a special
Military Intelligence unit. The story is broad and deep and implicates high-ranking officers
in all the American intelligence and security branches. And it stars Raoul, the assembly
line worker now living under government protection. Raoul guided James Ray after his prison
escape to a bathroom in a seedy Memphis hotel, above a greasy spoon cafe owned by a sad sack
named Loyd Jowers, a creepy old white man having sex with Betty, a 16-year-old black girl.
Betty, they say around Memphis, got hooked on drugs and had several illegitimate kids.

Pepper, who resides in Cambridge and spends his time practicing law in United States and the
United Kingdom, assembles Jowers and Betty and about 70 other witnesses to make a convincing
argument that Jowers and known and unknown members of the U.S. government conspired to kill
MLK. Indeed, the argument convinced a jury of exactly that in a civil suit brought by the
King family against Jowers and the U.S. government. The trial was held in Memphis in 1999,
but the Department of Justice, as Pepper explains, buried the verdict beneath an avalanche
of lies and distortions, with a little help from its friends in the media.


The government had already been found guilty in court of conspiracy to murder MLK before they made this "holiday". The mainstream media somehow never found this out. You'd think it would make a good story on of these MLK holidays just to give them something to talk about, but I've never heard it mentioned.

Great contribution JD 1984, and I'll add another shocker to that. Evidence has indicated that Jesse Jackson himself was an inside set-up man complicit in the assassination of MLK. Jesse was always a disaffected member of King's entourage who wanted more recognition and power, but the others in King's group always saw him as a self-serving, deceitful nuisance always seeking limelight for himself in King's shadow. One incident had King verbally blast Jackson for his persistence in his ambitious and independent pursuits. Hearing this discord, through listening to the wiretaps the Justice Department had on King, Division Five of the FBI approached Jesse and reportedly made him a deal. They stated that King was going to be taken out and that Ralph Abernathy was the only one who could possibly take over the struggle from MLK. They said you help us take out King and we'll arrange to have you be the one who takes over. Jesse agreed and his task was to keep King on the balcony and shout out the phrase, “OUR LEADER!” Jesse’s sudden outburst froze Dr. King on the balcony while signaling to the sniper team assassin that the target is in position. Which immediately afterwards, a sniper's round catches King and kills him.

Quote:In Memphis, the Alpha 184 team leader introduced Warren and Murphy to Lieutenant Eli Arkin of the Memphis Police Department (MPD) intelligence bureau. Arkin reportedly told them that their assistance was essential to save the city that Dr. King’s forces were preparing to burn down. They then met up with their contact around 1 p.m. Warren named him and said he believed he was a CIA agent. They were taken to their perch on top of the Illinois Central Railroad building where they assumed a state of readiness. In the course of the afternoon the team leader put Warren on the radio with MPD inspector Sam Evans who described the layout of the Lorraine. He also advised them that “friendlies would not be wearing ties.” (The only other government agent we have identified who was physically close to Dr. King at the time of the killing was Marrell McCollough who was not wearing a tie. It is also interesting to note that James [Earl Ray] was wearing a tie although Raul, reportedly, was not.)

What was Jesse wearing that day? Before Dr. King came onto the balcony Jesse Jackson had a conversation with Chauncey Eskridge in regards to Jesse not having on a tie. Jesse, wearing brown trousers and a matching turtleneck, insisted that he didn’t need to wear a tie.

By the by Division Five reneged on their part of the deal as Jesse could never be sold to the SCLC membership as King's replacement. He was disgruntled until they did assist in elevating him in politics through the help of strategic and influential people and providing him grant money for his numerous scams projects like Operation Breadbasket and the Rainbow Coalition. He has remained to this day, their most trusted and useful fool whom they deploy like a wind-up toy when they need to exacerbate or diffuse sticky situations.

Who was Alpha 184?

Quote:In March, about March 20th or 21st, after the trial was over, a journalist named Steve Tompkins wrote an article in the Memphis Commercial Appeal. It was to have been the first of eight installments. It became the only piece, but it was a very lengthy piece. It dealt with the infiltration of the civil rights movement and black leaders throughout America by military intelligence going back to the second decade of the 20th century.

He traced the history of military intelligence's concern and surveillance of black community leaders and brought it all the way down (of course) to the COINTELPRO operations [3] in the '50s and '60s, particularly against Martin King. [4]

But the article showed that what happened in the '50s and '60s was just a continuation of what had been going on since around the time of the Russian Revolution. Because blacks were regarded as prime candidates for recruitment to the Communist Party after the Russian Revolution. So they had to be watched and surveilled.

Hoover's Number 2 of course, [Clyde] Tolson was an officer of military intelligence and Hoover himself was given a rank of Colonel which he only discarded after the Second World War.

In this article there was one little paragraph that caught my eye. It said, in Memphis on the day of the assassination of Martin King there was an [Special Forces] Alpha 184 Team there. And nobody understood why that team was there. Alpha 184 six-man unit was a sniper team. No one understood why they were there.

I was curious about that and I went to see Steve and I said, `This is a whole other dimension to the case.' I was beginning to form the opinion pretty clearly that Martin King had been killed as the result of a Mafia contract. There were any number of bounties on him in those periods of time and a fair amount of money had been raised to try to get him killed. None of the occurrences were successful and I figured ultimately one was and this was a Mafia hit. And that was it.

But now, all of a sudden, into this picture comes one of the most secretive aspects of the government of the United States: the role of the Army and the Army and military intelligence on American soil. That bounded and intrigued me so I said to Steve, `Will you arrange for these guys' -- whom he knew, he knew two members of this sniper team -- `will you ask them if they'll answer questions for me?' It took awhile and he said No, he wouldn't. He refused for the longest time. He didn't want anything to do with these people again because he said they were nasty, they'd kill you where you stand, they'd kill your family, your kids, anyone else. These are just trained killers and that was the way it was. He didn't want anything more to do with them.

So I kept going back and again [saying] `Look, we got this guy in jail and we believe he is innocent. Any information I can get I need to have.' Finally he said he would help. They would not however meet with me. They would trust him because he had never betrayed them. He was a former Naval Intelligence officer himself. So he agreed to take questions from me and they agreed to take those questions and answer them. For a long, extended period of time I would give Steve questions. He would go and he would come back with answers. He'd go again, come back. This was all in his spare time and only his expenses were paid.

As he got the answers to the questions -- he knew nothing really about the details of the assassination -- he didn't even know why I was asking certain things. But as he got those answers back to me -- these people were in Mexico by the way; they fled the United States in the '70s because they thought there was a clean-up operation underway so he had to make the trip to Mexico -- the picture started to become clearer and clearer to me as I got the answers to these questions.

It became evident that the military did not kill Martin King but that they were there in Memphis as what I've come to believe was a backup operation. Because King was never going to be allowed to leave Memphis. If the contract that was given didn't work these guys were going to do it. The story they told was that the six of them were briefed at 4:30 in the morning at Camp Shelby. The started out around 5 o'clock. They came to Memphis. They were briefed there. They took up their positions.

At the briefing at 4:30 they were shown two photographs who were their targets. One was Martin King and the other was Andrew Young. That was the first time I'd heard that Andrew Young might even conceivably be a target. But that's what he was. The main informant who told us most of the information in fact was the sniper who had Young in his crosshairs.

Now as far as they knew they were going to kill these people. They had no regrets about it at all because they considered them as traitors and they used very unkind words about them. So they were going to kill them and they were prepared to do that. But they never got the order. Instead they heard a shot. And each thought the other one had fired too quickly. Then they had an order to disengage. It was only later that they learned that, as they call it, `some wacko civilian' had actually shot King and that their services were not required. But that's how they worked.

This was not a one-off for these guys. They were trained snipers.

Link: William F. Pepper - An Act of State
The Execution of Martin Luther King

[Hei Hu Quan]

BTW Mike, I never stated whether or not Malcolm X was "worthy of a holiday". Where did you get that? I also assert that the Jewish analogy was on definitively on-point which you are just not seeing because of this reactionary and premature judgement you have exercised over Malcolm X.

But hey, telle est la vie. Oui mon ami?

[shZ]

I fail to see the significance of who's more entitle to a national holidays in their "memory." No man or woman is worthy of having a holiday dedicated in their name to begin with.

[shZ]

Quote:I read the article in the link you mentioned. Its good, but the only problem is that the author talkes to much about white supremacy. I do not agree with the idea that white supremacy is the problem. Whites are as much victims as the blacks. In my opinion the problem is Jewish supremacy.

If the illuminati were just a white supremist organization, why would they limit poplulation growth in europe and the US than? If they were a white supremist organization I would expect they would stimulate population growth in white countries and limit population growth in black or colored countries. What we can observe is actually the opposite. The number of white people are declining and the number of colored people is increasing. This does not really match with the idea of the illuminati being a white supremist organization.

Also the illuminist are responsible for massive immigration of colored people into the us and europe. It they were really white supremist they would not allow this to happen, because this is destroying white societies.

Conclusion: they care as little for whites as for blacks.

LOL, yeah, I'm such a fucking threat! :laugh: Before getting all defensive about your "white identity," you might want to take a look in the fucking mirror and colonial history.:rolleyes: