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FighterFromAfar · 02-16-2008, 07:01 PM

Quote:And the plot sickens.... err thickens.

It's been brought to my attention that after unnamed people followed the seagrain.baz trail, they went one step farther and proceeded down the rabbit hole by looking into the domain name of the DNS server seagrain used... in the end they got to Noel's personal website that hadn't been updated for a few years.
As they surfed looking for more info they began running into http 404 errors. After a few minutes of this the entire site had vanished and had been replaced by an under construction page.

Give it up Noel, you can't run from archive.org. :wink:

So... Noel was accusing you of being an anti-semite?

ephilution · (This post was last modified: 02-16-2008 08:24 PM by ephilution.)

While Noel's site is now under sudden construction you can still view it by loading the cache page:

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:RDJmf...t=clnk&cd=1

With all the fecks flying around this is the Ogstein alright.

However, IMO Ctrl's stalker tomtomx is not likely Ognir/Noel himself as the former is more eloquent (less spelling errors:LOL:) than the latter but since the .biz domain is registered with Noel's company it may very well be that tomtomx is an associate of Noel, possibly friend. If the latter is true then it does seem that the two are playing stirring-up-the-pot games.

I don't know, this whole thing doesn't make me feel all warm inside and I don't like to accuse Noel of wrongdoings if unfounded but the situation does give off this unsavory smell.

tkra · 02-16-2008, 08:52 PM

I saw the gay porn posting on the forums a few days back. It was gone in an hour or so - so someone got to it and erased it. It was posted as "Mikey18".

Yeah, Mikey18.

And as soon as you said tomtomx, it immediately reminded me of some creep called Tom of Finland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_of_Finland

There was a page dedicated to him in the AMOK Fourth Dispatch Catalog that I had years ago. (The Amok catalog was kind of a pre-internet conspiracy catalog from hell - still probably more sickening than any internet site I've seen since)

As for Ognir, I thought of him as a plant all along and I'm not saying this to play smart guy. There was just nothing I could say. I wasn't going to falsely accuse anyone, and at least he was posting lots of conspiracy info... so I just hoped for the best.

But seriously... there is a religious issue involved. Either you're a Catholic or not... and Ognir never renounced Catholicism directly. That means he MUST be loyal to the papacy according to Canon Law.

People can't seem to get a grasp on that because they don't take Canon Law seriously, but the Catholic Command certainly does. Ognir was here to put his finger on the pulse of those of us who can't be controlled by Rome and it's bullshit. The more influence he could acquire would result in certain leverage that could come in handy I suppose. Ultimately, as things have turned out - too many of us have seen through the propaganda and Rome can't hide... so THEY pulled Ognir out to fight another day elsewhere.

It makes perfect sense to me because it's exactly what I would do. I understand how these guys think because I feel like maybe I was one of them in a past life or something. I don't know for sure. But the bottom line is that the Roman Empire is a crappy and evil idea so there's no point in putting effort into it. It's all greed based crap.

I called Ognir a "plant" in a torrent comment shortly before he crashed out of here. He finally got on my case because I posted a small .exe port scanner - and I knew that he was ragging on me for posting all the Anti-Vatican shit, and my commentary. For better or for worse, it wasn't making his day.

I really don't want to be Anti-Catholic because I'm not. I'm Anti-Avarice and Anti-Canon Law. We have to come to grips that it's the sick mentality of GREED that is screwing over everything... and GREED is not exclusively a Jewish issue. Some of the paranoid Catholics can't criticize their own church, so they have no choice but to seek external enemies.

And CANON LAW explains these issues. Catholics CANNOT BY LAW criticize their church or what their hierarchy does. So, if Ognir was a practicing Catholic, he'd be subject to these laws... and as a baptized Catholic, the laws apply to him.

Therefore, when civilization breaks apart, these folks can't strike out against the Roman hierarchy or else they're finished... ruined... and THAT INCLUDES financial ties. Ognir/Noel has a family as far as I know, so he's gotta pay the bills somehow and he can't bite the hand that feeds him.

As for me... I have no family so for now, I don't have to dance to anyone's tune but my own.

Anyway... I think Ognir might be on the prowl just because there's nothing else for him to do. Lame ass gay smears are as desolate as it gets and ultimately he's going to have to come to grips with figuring out what kind of mind control system he's serving. What the heck is this Vatican with it's totalitarian Canon Law. I mean, that stuff is THE antithesis of freedom and free speech. Canon Law is everything that everyone I know has a hatred for.... but they don't realize it for what it truly is. Martin Luther burned Canon Law.

Ognir's just probably pissed because his world's not working anymore. That means we have to condemn ALL greed rather than work towards scapegoating. Anyway, that's my two cents on things.

faust · 02-16-2008, 09:05 PM

Quote:While Noel's site is now under sudden construction you can still view it by loading the cache page:

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:RDJmf...t=clnk&cd=1

With all the fecks flying around this is the Ogstein alright.

However, IMO Ctrl's stalker tomtomx is not likely Ognir/Noel himself as the former is more eloquent (less spelling errors:LOL:) than the latter but since the .biz domain is registered with Noel's company it may very well be that tomtomx is an associate of Noel, possibly friend. If the latter is true then it does seem that the two are playing stirring-up-the-pot games.

I don't know, this whole thing doesn't make me feel all warm inside and I don't like to accuse Noel of wrongdoings if unfounded but the situation does give off this unsavory smell.

If noel was here today, he'd definitely call you a fencesitter phil:LOL::wink:

02-17-2008, 03:56 AM

Plant... I dunno, it's a stretch for me.
He has put his own money into concen fwiw.

ephilution · 02-17-2008, 03:07 PM

A plant seems a bit rich indeed. But it's ironic that Noel accuses everyone else of 'playing games' while he and his buddy were doing just that all over the web before. I guess he recognized game-play, where there really was none in actual fact, since he was accustomed to doing it himself. A classic case of seeing ghosts fueled by a guilty conscience perhaps?

02-17-2008, 05:21 PM

Well I don't buy it, but if he is a plant, what about mairi?
He holds her registration for her domain still, despite saying he gave it back to her, moreover she was the one who suggested noel be an admin on cc for me to consider.

faust · 02-17-2008, 06:52 PM

Quote:Well I don't buy it, but if he is a plant, what about mairi?
He holds her registration for her domain still, despite saying he gave it back to her, moreover she was the one who suggested noel be an admin on cc for me to consider.

They both put their money and ridiculous amounts of their free time into concen Mike, without (as far as i know) wanting recompense. Also a plant would not let herself get filmed over webcam...

Noel offered me the domain of cr and he refused at the last minute of negotiations giving all sorts of excuses. I just think he wanted to have some sort of hold over Mairi. In hindsight, I can't say I blame him.

02-17-2008, 07:07 PM

Quote:
Quote:Well I don't buy it, but if he is a plant, what about mairi?
He holds her registration for her domain still, despite saying he gave it back to her, moreover she was the one who suggested noel be an admin on cc for me to consider.
They both put their money and ridiculous amounts of their free time into concen Mike, without (as far as i know) wanting recompense. Also a plant would not let herself get filmed over webcam...

Noel offered me the domain of cr and he refused at the last minute of negotiations giving all sorts of excuses. I just think he wanted to have some sort of hold over Mairi. In hindsight, I can't say I blame him.

Fair nuff Ben, as I said even I found it far fetched and was only speaking in the hypothetical.

I do find it odd however that I unbanned you at the same time as mifune et al, and you don't really
step back into the light until Noel gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar. His eyes and ears?

blove8. · 02-17-2008, 07:10 PM

seems that others are popping out of the woodworks now that Og and his crew have left for greener pastures.

faust · 02-17-2008, 07:11 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:Well I don't buy it, but if he is a plant, what about mairi?
He holds her registration for her domain still, despite saying he gave it back to her, moreover she was the one who suggested noel be an admin on cc for me to consider.
They both put their money and ridiculous amounts of their free time into concen Mike, without (as far as i know) wanting recompense. Also a plant would not let herself get filmed over webcam...

Noel offered me the domain of cr and he refused at the last minute of negotiations giving all sorts of excuses. I just think he wanted to have some sort of hold over Mairi. In hindsight, I can't say I blame him.

Fair nuff Ben, as I said even I found it far fetched and was only speaking in the hypothetical.

I do find it odd however that I unbanned you at the same time as mifune et al, and you don't really
step back into the light until Noel gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar. His eyes and ears?

It was Noel and his henchmen I had beef with mike, you can figure out the rest :wink:

DJOldskool · (This post was last modified: 02-17-2008 09:01 PM by DJOldskool.)

Holy shit I followed a link from that defence tetimony and got one of those, big list of self hating jews called the S.H.I.T list. amoungst all that vile crap I found awinner, maybe the webmaster needs to prosecuted for hate crimes against gentiles.

Source

Adland, Jon "RABBI" Rabbi Adland is one of those nice guys we almost hated to add to our list. After all, who could not like a nice Jewish boy who speaks out for abortion rights (even if they're unborn Jews) and same-sex marriages? But what sent out the red flags was his strong support for a group called "Rabbis for Human Rights" [RHR].
For those of you unaware of RHR and what they stand for (and what they DON'T stand for), here's a quick over-view: In a nutshell, RHR campaigns for "Palestinian" justice and "Palestinian" civil and human rights. A Jew defending himself is anathema to RHR especially when that defense is against the poo' poo' ancient [yeah, right!] "Palestinians"! In the first place, there are no such people called "Palestinians." They are simply A-R-A-B-S, most of whom moved into a geographical area once inaccurately referred to as "Palestine." See http://masada2000.org/historical.html for more.
RHR is obsessed with rebuilding Arab homes and re-planting Arab olive trees. It matters little that these particular homes were build illegally or that Arab terrorists were shooting from behind olive trees. What matters is that Israel is trying to maintain the Jewish character of the Jewish State while also trying to dodge Arab bullets!
Arik Ascherman [the leader of RHR] and his group claim to be concerned with human rights. At best they are naive. Perhaps they are disingenuous. At worse, they are enemies of Israel. Those who support RHR [like Rabbi Adland] also fall into one of these three groups.
Although there is no doubt that many rabbis ( Rabbi Adland included) are well-intended, RHR's campaign ultimately shifts the public's focus away from Arab terrorism and aid the Arab propaganda machine whose sole purpose is to de-legitimaze Israel, Zionism and Jewish ties to the Holy Land.
As much as they might claim their projects are strictly humanitarian, Rabbis for Human Rights and similar left-wing groups have a clear political agenda: to stigmatize Jewish self-defense as repression. These mischief-making rabbis and those rabbis who support them are (1) reinforcing Arab intransigence and rejectionism, (2) masquerading as an outreach to enhance Jewish-Arab coexistence and (3) assisting the Arabs' public relations offensive against Israel.
As a final thought... take a look at http://www.betterworldlinks.org/book102.htm. This obviously pro-Arab web site lists some of the most virulently anti-Israel and anti-Jewish groups on the face of the earth. Rabbis for Human Rights is listed there! As they say, "Birds of a feather...!"

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Even if they are unborn jews!!!! How racist and supremacist can you get??

faust · 02-17-2008, 10:40 PM

That's actually quite profound :wink:

02-18-2008, 12:02 AM

LOL "this season I will be am wearing my thinking head"

hardboiled11 · 02-18-2008, 12:29 AM

Damn I wish I wasn't right about it being ognir, it was just first thing that hit my head, maybe someone is using his info, to frame him? Oh well thing is what happen when mike was away we kind of had a reform going on here at concen, and it was like a giant e-penis smash you contest when it hit climax.