[split] Who Funded Hitler?

[yeti]

(06-24-2012 05:53 PM)Enthusiast Wrote:  Over the last century, the name which has caused [the Illuminati] the greatest anxiety is Adolph Hitler.

Why would a guy who was brought to prominence and funded by them, and who gave them the most profitable war they've ever had cause their greatest anxiety?

[jasonmac]

(06-24-2012 07:28 PM)yeti Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 05:53 PM)Enthusiast Wrote:  Over the last century, the name which has caused [the Illuminati] the greatest anxiety is Adolph Hitler.

Why would a guy who was brought to prominence and funded by them, and who gave them the most profitable war they've ever had cause their greatest anxiety?

He wasn't funded by them. Everyone with half a brain invested in Nazi Germany because they would have made 10x their money back with the intensity in which their economy grew. This is the only basis for the "funded hitler" arguement. Most of it went to Germany. Hitler was mosly funded by a piano maker.
Before he showed up, Germany was about to fall to Communism. If Germany fell to Communism, so would have the world. That was their plan for world domination and it failed because of Herr Hitler.

[yeti]

(06-25-2012 04:36 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 07:28 PM)yeti Wrote:  

(06-24-2012 05:53 PM)Enthusiast Wrote:  Over the last century, the name which has caused [the Illuminati] the greatest anxiety is Adolph Hitler.

Why would a guy who was brought to prominence and funded by them, and who gave them the most profitable war they've ever had cause their greatest anxiety?

He wasn't funded by them.

Incorrect. He was directly funded by some of the most powerful people on the planet. You need to read Who Financed Hitler: The Secret Funding of Hitler's Rise to Power, 1919-1933 or Wall Street & the Rise of Hitler, or any of many other books which clearly prove this using plenty of evidence.

Many of these same people also funded the rise of communism in Russia. They understood that the most profitable way to control countries was to play them off against each other.

(06-25-2012 04:36 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  Everyone with half a brain invested in Nazi Germany because they would have made 10x their money back with the intensity in which their economy grew.

This is the first time I've heard this. Where is your evidence?

The historical evidence clearly shows that Germany despite being an industrial powerhouse was totally hobbled by the Versailles Treaty which crippled their economy, so money was going out of Germany, not in. They had the highest inflation in the world. Hitler turned the economy around because he tore up the Versailles Treaty, which he could do because he had financial backing from the most powerful people in the world.

(06-25-2012 04:36 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  This is the only basis for the "funded hitler" arguement.

Nonsense. There is plenty of evidence against your claim.

(06-25-2012 04:36 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  Most of it went to Germany.

OK, but since Hitler was a fascist dictator he had control over how it was spent.

(06-25-2012 04:36 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  Hitler was mosly funded by a piano maker.

(06-25-2012 04:36 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  Before he showed up, Germany was about to fall to Communism.

The commies were no more popular in Germany than the other parties.

(06-25-2012 04:36 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  If Germany fell to Communism, so would have the world.

Ah the old "Domino Theory", tried and true propaganda for over 50 years!

(06-25-2012 04:36 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  That was their plan for world domination and it failed because of Herr Hitler.

Herr Hitler?? Let me guess, you have a poster of him on your wall, correct?

[jasonmac]

1) Who was he funded by then, exactly? Do you have names? Did you even read the book?

2) Between Versailles and WW2 Germany went to the worst economy in Europe to the best, by far. Doesn't take an investment whiz to figure this out.

3) The Communists wanted Germany more then any other country after USSR. They would have then marched south to Jerusalam with Germany as the tip of the spear and you would have had WW2 there and Eretz Israel as well. And it would have been a hell of alot bloodier then WW2 was.

4) No poster. Yet.

[Anarchist]

Time to drop a tiny little friendly link. I have no idea how in under 5 posts, this thread became a Hitler rant, but it is cool with me I guess. Even the Guardian knows that Prescott Bush funded Hitler, even after the war started. That is how the Bush's made their wealth. But, that is just one family, there are more, but I will leave it up to the both of you to bicker it out.

[jasonmac]

I also have friendly links: Demystification of the Birth and Funding of the NSDAP

HUNDREDS of US companies invested in Germany (To wit, this was back when there were actually WASP industrialists unlike today). Bush also bailed when things went down, as did most US companies at that time. But prior to that, everyone invested in Germany because it was basically free money. I think what "Ben Aris" was going with the article was just more of the endless demonization of Hitler. If he was truely evil do you think the Illuminatisatanicluciferianjesushatingfreemasons would demonize them so?

[yeti]

(06-25-2012 05:23 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  1) Who was he funded by then, exactly? Do you have names? Did you even read the book?

I own and read both books I provided links to. There are many other books I own which mention who funded Hitler but are not the focus.

Short list of names:
Henry Ford
Prescott Bush
Krupp family
Fritz Thyssen
The Rothschilds
Many Wall St. and City of London firms

An excellent interview of Anthony Sutton about funding of Hitler and Stalin can be found here.

(06-25-2012 05:23 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  2) Between Versailles and WW2 Germany went to the worst economy in Europe to the best, by far. Doesn't take an investment whiz to figure this out.

Correct, as I pointed out above, along with the reasons why.

(06-25-2012 05:23 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  3) The Communists wanted Germany more then any other country after USSR.

Proof? Anyway I think we can agree that the true commie believers wanted every country they could get.

(06-25-2012 05:23 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  They would have then marched south to Jerusalam with Germany as the tip of the spear and you would have had WW2 there and Eretz Israel as well.

Interesting theory. Do you have any evidence that the USSR wanted to take over Palestine?

(06-25-2012 05:23 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  And it would have been a hell of alot bloodier then WW2 was.

No student of history can deny that Stalin was a murderer at least on par with Hitler.

(06-25-2012 05:23 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  4) No poster. Yet.

Is it safe to say that you are a neo Nazi?

[Anarchist]

Quote:If he was truely evil do you think the Illuminatisatanicluciferianjesushatingfreemasons would demonize them so?

Ever hear of controlled opposition? That is when they play off two parties, demonising both sides from the other. A good example would be Russia and USA during the Cold War, when "we" were "enemies" with the USSR, when in actuality they were controlled by the same people. Does that mean the USSR was a perfect utopia because we demonised them? Does that mean we were a perfect utopia because they demonised us? Hitler was another example of this, they point the finger, and now they use him as a tool to silence people, especially when it comes to the taboo topic of Jews. He was not some saint, he was controlled like everyone else.

[yeti]

(06-25-2012 06:48 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  Bush also bailed when things went down, as did most US companies at that time.

Nonsense. He was forced to stop funding Hitler when his bank was seized for violating the Trading With The Enemy Act.

[yeti]

(06-25-2012 06:48 PM)jasonmac Wrote:  I also have friendly links: Demystification of the Birth and Funding of the NSDAP

So friendly it's broken!
http://www.inconvenienthistory.com/archi..._nsdap.php

[h3rm35]

I didn't read the thread, so if you'd do me the favor of humoring me, what topic did this split off of?

[Anarchist]

http://concen.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=46172

Not much there to lead up to this.

[h3rm35]

ok, thanks.

[CharliePrime]

(06-25-2012 07:26 PM)yeti Wrote:  An excellent interview of Anthony Sutton about funding of Hitler and Stalin can be found here.

Interesting link. Downloading now. Thanks Yeti!

Sutton is required reading for anyone attempting to understand world history. http://www.antonysutton.com