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Relevant clauses of the Health Bills re:Microchipping of Americans
04-08-2010, 12:32 AM
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Relevant clauses of the Health Bills re:Microchipping of Americans
The Micro Chipping of Americans?
Relevant clauses of the House and Senate Health Bills


Global Research, April 6, 2010
New York Indymedia - 2010-03-18

Related links concerning this horrible 'wealth care plan' below.*

MICROCHIPPING INCLUDED IN HEALTHCARE BILL

Submitted by celeste on Sun, 08/30/2009 - Buried deep within the over 1,000 pages of the massive US Health Care Bill (PDF) in a section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521, National Medical Device Registry, and which states its purpose as:

"The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the registry, to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that; (A) is or has been used in or on a patient; (B) is a class III device; or a class II device that is implantable."

In real world speak, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn't, allowed medical care in their country.

Source: Via 'Daily Ron Paul' - member of the U.S. Congress. - "Microchipping included in Healthcare Bill?" - Url.: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/105079
Required RFID implanted chip

Sec. 2521, Pg. 1000 – The government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. What does a National Medical Device Registry mean?



National Medical Device Registry from H.R. 3200 [Healthcare Bill], pages 1001-1008:

(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that— ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘(B)and is— ‘‘(i) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”

Then on page 1004 it describes what the term “data” means in paragraph 1,



section B:

‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to information respecting a device described in paragraph (1), including claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary”

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable?

Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is an “implantable radio frequency transponder system for patient identification and health information.” The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as “claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary.”



See: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/MedicalDevi...072191.pdf



This new law – when fully implemented – provides the framework for making the United States the first nation in the world to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country.



See Healthcare Bill H.R. 3200:http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/AAHCA09001xml.pdf



Pages 1001-1008 “National Medical Device Registry” section.
Page 1006 “to be enacted within 36 months upon passage”
Page 503 “… medical device surveillance”



Why would the government use the word “surveillance” when referring to citizens? The definition of “surveillance” is the monitoring of the behavior, activities, or other changing information, usually of people and often in a secret manner. The root of the word [French] means to “watch over.”



In theory, the intent to streamline healthcare and to eliminate fraud via “health chips” seems right. But, to have the world’s lone superpower (America, for now) mandate (page 1006) a device to be IMPLANTED is scary!



Microchiping included in Healthcare Bill?
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/105079



Coverage under Obamacare will require an implantable microchip?
http://current.com/items/90842279_covera...rochip.htm
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04-14-2010, 10:02 AM
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RE: Relevant clauses of the Health Bills re:Microchipping of Americans
i heard that was actually putting tracking shit, in the doctors, or i mean, communist tools. whatever you want to call them. ...
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04-15-2010, 01:18 AM
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(04-14-2010 10:02 AM)ldrancer Wrote:  i heard that was actually putting tracking shit, in the doctors, or i mean, communist tools. whatever you want to call them. ...

no it means that fraud will shrivle and near die if every purchase, and doctor visit is only done by the person who it's surposed to do.

it's id you can't lose thats easy to check.... but this board would be happier as would most of the sheep with thumb print technology being the tracking methoid though the thumb scanners are 5 times the cost and severed thumbs can be used in cheeper models....

for personalized secur places like hm/ vehicle i'd like to see face recognition with retnal scan tech for all medical, and high level id checks with a simple thumb for purchases, and building entry.

my only reason for not mass chipping the masses, as i am already chipped and like the devices to scann are still expensive and not common place, it is a unique form of id now and were it to be common, i'd probabbly have to remove it... or they would if they go with a uniform type and if mine is non compliant... either way they's be able to detect what now they can not!

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04-15-2010, 02:20 AM (This post was last modified: 04-15-2010 02:21 AM by h3rm35.)
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ALL HAIL BIG BROTHER FOR PROTECTING OUR ELITIST ASSES!
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04-15-2010, 05:43 AM
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(04-15-2010 01:18 AM)Deathanyl Wrote:  as i am already chipped ...
uh why ???

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04-15-2010, 05:00 PM
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Deathanyl, if you are chipped let me ask you something. When did you get chipped?
Is it a tracking chip or just an info storing chip/biometrics or all of the above?
Also I hear that the battery life doesnt last more than a couple years so what do you do when the battery runs out, and how do you know if the battery runs out?
How do you know that you wont get cancer from this foreign object in your body?
Not that I want to chip myself, far from it, just wondering about those issues, and I wanted to hear the answers from someone that has one.

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04-15-2010, 07:43 PM (This post was last modified: 04-15-2010 08:30 PM by Deathaniel.)
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(04-15-2010 05:00 PM)SiLVa Wrote:  Deathanyl, if you are chipped let me ask you something. When did you get chipped? [quote/]

got it in 2001 as we were looking for the place that would need them, and yes i was the first in my group to get one and i kept it in for 6mths b4 the next person stepped up.

[quote='SiLVa']
Is it a tracking chip or just an info storing chip/biometrics or all of the above?

no just an information storing chip, the size of a fat grain of rice, holds a number the readers can read, and then the computer has software that we have programed to recognize each number with who it is surposed to be. We also plan an x-ray body scan in one location which will match the chip number with a body placement grid, and any other implements added for verification to it's core.

of the 4 me included who is to be allowed access to the central core, only one has nothing else buried in him, but does have a unique skeletal deformity which the comp could use as secondary vid.

SiLVa pid= Wrote:Also I hear that the battery life doesnt last more than a couple years so what do you do when the battery runs out, and how do you know if the battery runs out?

Ours have no battery in the chip, and do not send any signal, but the reader we have runs on 12v, and we want to eventually buy the shaker powered mobile ones. the two 12 powered scanners we have now can run on a car battery for at least a week with a light/ laptop usb ported, with out any charge being sent into battery... (note were talking surette tank batteries slow drain)

SiLVa Wrote:How do you know that you wont get cancer from this foreign object in your body?

I don't, but the wound healed up with no infection in normal time and other then when i flex and make it noticed you can not see it or any real scar... but i tan alot in the area of the insertion, so the scar has blended in nicely, two of the others put a tat over there scar, so that if the reader fails they have the ink work. to back them up as to who they are.

(04-15-2010 05:00 PM)SiLVa Wrote:  Not that I want to chip myself, far from it, just wondering about those issues, and I wanted to hear the answers from someone that has one.

sure sure... i got some flack, read my first post to understand what i'm about... it's a safety precaution more then a conformity issue

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04-16-2010, 01:33 AM
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awesome doooooooooood. do the bankers call you elite for getting one
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04-16-2010, 01:54 AM (This post was last modified: 04-16-2010 01:58 AM by Deathaniel.)
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(04-16-2010 01:33 AM)ldrancer Wrote:  awesome doooooooooood. do the bankers call you elite for getting one

no i don't even have a bank account working on becoming a ghost...Icon_biggrin

but you can, as i am your superior, ye of simple mind and no skill...

and some here claim we should never sterilize... the Germans were right in the feebles, here's a case in point, and with so many fertile others it's not like anyone will miss him not being able to reproduce...

now not just for his posting here but i'm sure in the real world he works a shitty entry level (latino level to some) probabbly doesn't have any post secondary education, probabbly an std or two... and is either very small and ill nourished or is a fat pig in his own folds, note no pic on his profile...

i'll admit i'm not hansome but everyone knows my face Exclamation Joke to the pic i post under EVERYWHERE...

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04-16-2010, 05:34 AM
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(04-15-2010 01:18 AM)Deathanyl Wrote:  
(04-14-2010 10:02 AM)ldrancer Wrote:  i heard that was actually putting tracking shit, in the doctors, or i mean, communist tools. whatever you want to call them. ...

no it means that fraud will shrivle and near die if every purchase, and doctor visit is only done by the person who it's surposed to do.

it's id you can't lose thats easy to check.... but this board would be happier as would most of the sheep with thumb print technology being the tracking methoid though the thumb scanners are 5 times the cost and severed thumbs can be used in cheeper models....

for personalized secur places like hm/ vehicle i'd like to see face recognition with retnal scan tech for all medical, and high level id checks with a simple thumb for purchases, and building entry.

my only reason for not mass chipping the masses, as i am already chipped and like the devices to scann are still expensive and not common place, it is a unique form of id now and were it to be common, i'd probabbly have to remove it... or they would if they go with a uniform type and if mine is non compliant... either way they's be able to detect what now they can not!

You are literally the most retarded sack of crap to ever post on this board. Your incoherence oozes from the screen in your ignorant screed of typos. If you really believe that the best suited survive and there are worthless individuals out there, I suggest you swallow some bullets for the gene pool. You are a useless brainwashed fucktard.
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First Ever Double Post. Go me. I wanted to add this anyway.

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04-16-2010, 05:39 AM
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a post so precise, it needed to be said twice...

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04-17-2010, 04:59 AM
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too much fun... and i bet you guys whine in the real world this much also... saw you guys ranked me cause you don't agree with what i say, at least the origonal person who gave me a rank had some decency and feed back... you guys , " i'm the brain washed" LOL

really... who's more worried bout nothing. The tripe they spill out there to keep us destracted fills your posts, one of you post just to post.. rarly saying anything of value, or insite... ?

not me... no strangly enough none of those look like , me i was going to post my pic, but my friend who attracted me here said i shouldn't do that... no i have a tard for a bro, and i plan to keep him alive, cause he's my weak fam... but i'll not be going to institutions and saving them when the time comes.

what i councle is survivle of the fitest in the mind as well as body, those of us who know the truth, don't get wrapped up in the BS of rights and hidden adgenda's we know they exist, but care more about the real storm and what "the other hand" is doing...

i assume you who are so opposed are not amongst the fitest, most likly over weight, underskilled, and know when it's lights out your dead... i have total peace of mind and in deed knowing me and my family will survive, I do help the weak today even, but i help them up, not give them hand outs... like i have commented i appreciate circumstances, but dispise lazyness, and stupidity....

And recognizing there are weak people, is not a bad thing, as it allows us to see in ourselves weaknesses that need to be over come, i teach my kids and try to like by a simple expression...

always do your best! and try to do better
because as you imporve and get better, eventually your better will be best!

and as we acknowledge peoples short commings if done with a critique, and solution were doing them a service they have not been given, When i see so many fat stupid people who live on processed foods, and have no abilities to do simple things like change a tire, or catch a fish....

now i do speak my philosophies in the world, and some do listen, and learn, and grow from it.... this summer i'll be up training 20 people how to survive in the woods with nothing but a pocket knife, a bic lighter, and the clothes on there back. like two summers ago some will not make the month... but those who do are potential survivors in the time after or "chaos" as we call it.

are either of you? what skills do you have that may make you worthy of being even added to groups that remain... i know i hit nerves here cause as an ALpha Male i get it all the time Icon_biggrin

and as for the typo's yes i'm @ work wasting moments typing, and there is no spell check, i rarly re-edit, having a life... and what i'm say'n is able to be understood, other times i'm on a Karma Key pad very tiny keys for my big hands...

But back to the origonal post b4 it became a bash death thread... i know you guys don't agree with chipping so after you said your piece why keep posting back in this thread, it's like, just being spam-ish... i'm not all over the board just commenting, and i stoped comenting on the types of topics i know we will not find "concen-us" on which are irrelivant to me ie the cops with tazers, better those then guns... but we'll not go there... and how i feel and others agree with personal responsibility...

but this is a thread or relivance to me and thoses who asked legit and justified questions should have access to answers not opinions, i'm not out advocating every one get chipped, but i do surport it and in more then just words as i'm open about mine...

so really guys grow up a bit, the internet and "forum" is a place of different folks with different strokes.... a quote... they know who they are.....

so unless it's just bash bash, and i assume you think i'll "go away" then your mistaken, i have gleemed 4 leads from here of people like me, not entirly, but enough to want to survive after and are smart enough to want to get the skills and are serious enough to put in the effort and time. And one invester with several non posting types who are mailing me asking serious questions...

guess the forum is not everyones cup o tea, and one wonders why with attacks being more regular then knowledge sharing...

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I actually used to regularly teach wilderness survival skills, and occasionally still do. I let my students fill a small bookbag - their choices as to what to bring on excursions help me gauge how well they've learned... It's been an interest of mine (to study) and a hobby of mine (to practice) for the last 15+ years. I've spent over a month in both forest and high desert by myself. It's fun, isn't it?

(since the original thread is toast, I figured I'd throw that in - I'm still not sure what being chipped has to do with survival, but I guess it has something to do with your compound that you're expecting to run to when the shit hits the fan... I still don't get why you think some place close to mines and fresh water won't be taken over through some kind of eminent domain maneuver prior to the time you'd need it, but good luck with that anyway.)

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04-17-2010, 07:06 AM
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(04-17-2010 06:33 AM)h3rm35 Wrote:  I actually used to regularly teach wilderness survival skills, and occasionally still do. I let my students fill a small bookbag - their choices as to what to bring on excursions help me gauge how well they've learned... It's been an interest of mine (to study) and a hobby of mine (to practice) for the last 15+ years. I've spent over a month in both forest and high desert by myself. It's fun, isn't it?

(since the original thread is toast, I figured I'd throw that in - I'm still not sure what being chipped has to do with survival, but I guess it has something to do with your compound that you're expecting to run to when the shit hits the fan... I still don't get why you think some place close to mines and fresh water won't be taken over through some kind of eminent domain maneuver prior to the time you'd need it, but good luck with that anyway.)
coming from some one WISE enough to live in SF... like really your a dead person walking... one of the first lost land masses and thats just accepted science...

"you have been weighed, measured... and found wanting" you opinion means nothing like that of the talking heads on cnn

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