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Materialists and spiritualists : their errors - Solve et Coagula - 10-02-2011 11:48 PM
Materialists and spiritualists : their errors
"There is nothing to be greatly admired in the many brilliant, wealthy and powerful people who place no importance on the life of the soul and spirit. Because they do not seek spiritual nourishment, which alone could fulfil them, they are like starving beasts; and their ambition, their voracity and their greed finally lead them down paths that are dangerous both for themselves and for those around them. Unfortunately, many so-called spiritualists do not conduct themselves any better: they try to gain the same success as the materialists by the means given to them by initiatic science. In doing so they betray the most sacred principles and are thus even guiltier than the materialists. It is clear that they are satisfied and proud of succeeding by these means, but heaven, which does not like to be used for egotistical ends, will demand an accounting one day, and they will be severely punished."
Omraam Mikhael Aivanhov
RE: Materialists and spiritualists : their errors - Armilus - 10-02-2011 11:58 PM
Yes, "one day" on that Holy day which never comes everything will be accounted for and every injustice corrected. Typical slave mentality => monotheism. Let's do nothing, just wait for God to fix everything, and in the meantime let's be manipulated by those who can actually think and conspire against slaves. This mentality enables elites to do whatever they want.
RE: Materialists and spiritualists : their errors - thokling - 10-03-2011 04:48 AM
The statement assumes that the brilliant, wealthy and powerful people do not seek spiritual nourishment, and it's easy to make such an assumption if one has a grudge against people who are brilliant, wealthy and/or powerful.
RE: Materialists and spiritualists : their errors - thokling - 10-04-2011 11:08 AM
(10-02-2011 11:58 PM)Armilus Wrote: Yes, "one day" on that Holy day which never comes everything will be accounted for and every injustice corrected. Typical slave mentality => monotheism. Let's do nothing, just wait for God to fix everything, and in the meantime let's be manipulated by those who can actually think and conspire against slaves. This mentality enables elites to do whatever they want.
That's pretty well it. The elites have manipulated humanity over the centuries, if not millennia, in order to maintain their respective seats of power.
An interesting thought springs to mind, however.
If one wishes to judge this reality based on sources such as Robert Scheinfeld and Abraham-Hicks (the first and perhaps some of the second of which I may upload here, even with my lousy 88 KB/s bandwidth), people make one of two choices:
1) As a spirit, one chooses the life they wish to lead and the lessons desired to be learned.
2) As a nonspiritual, physical entity, one chooses the life they wish to lead and the lessons one is attracted to based on one's beliefs.
Both points require the notion that each of us creates reality as we progress through the illusion of time. (Time is and isn't illusory depending upon one's point of view. Whereas we humans are commonly taught to think of time as horizontal, with a past before us and a future ahead of us, there is a notion of vertical time where past and future are piled up one on top of another. In the former (space-time - 3D space and 1D time), one has no direct access to the past (beyond echoes of memory and habit) or the future; in the latter (time-space - 1D space and 3D time), one not only has full access to past, present and future, but can alter them at will.)
In this physical world, or as Abraham-Hicks calls it the "leading edge of thought", we are brought up in a system that teaches us certain moral perogatives (with obvious cultural differences, of course) that only partially mirror The Truth. The Truth is disguised to us in order to provide us with something to learn within a predefined, collaborative context.
Under such a system, it's our job, individually, to seek The Truth to redeem our salvation. God will save us, but God isn't what people think it is. God is us, and we are God. God is the creator, and we are co-creators as God, working together (often unknowingly) to expand this universe and build it into something greater than what it is. There is neither good nor bad, because God The Creator loves all and finds joy in all of its creation.
That's my understanding of the subject at this point. However, I've noticed that my own paradigm has been shifting more quickly as "time" progresses, so it'll likely change again by next week if I have my timing right. Christ, paradigm shift number 5 or 6 now? I've lost count.
As an aside, I would recommend both Scheinfeld and Hicks as topics of potential curiosity, if not interest. An introduction to Abraham-Hicks can be found at https://sites.google.com/site/abrahamhickstorrents/ and Robert Scheinfeld can be found by looking up [scheinfeld], [journey to the infinite] or [busting loose] on your friendly neighbourhood tracker.
The ideals of both sources, which contain aspects that can quite easily be picked and chosen by the individual reader, are considerably more positive for and supportive of one's psychological, if not spiritual and/or emotional (depending upon whether or not one wishes to separate the two), health than the doom and gloom crap being sold.
Besides, if it ends up that we're going to have to choose between death and slavery, wouldn't it make one's existence a whole lot sweeter and easier on the skullbutter to believe that God will save everyone and that Everything Is Good? It doesn't matter if it's a fallacious idea - only that the belief is strong enough to allow one to exist with such "evils" without succumbing to the corruption of one's ideals. (As it's been proven and peer-reviewed by researchers that belief defines and creates reality, altering one's belief system can change how reality progresses for them.)
So is it really such a big leap from "God will save everyone and Everything Is Good" to the Hippie Quantum Physics mantra "we don't need saving because this reality is just an illusion"?
Only a few months ago, I would certainly have agreed with your point, and as such I still find a certain appreciation for it. However, the information that I've seemingly been directed to points rather strongly to the notion that we are, indeed, spiritual beings having a human experience. Where once I thought the idea was just as crazy as David Icke, nowadays there's enough evidence smacking me in the head (repeatedly) to cause me to rethink the This Is All That There Is ideal being taught. WAY too much.
Perhaps this little venture down speculative lane will be of interest to some. It's the tip of the iceberg of what I've somehow managed to uncover in my travels.